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Re: boston [Re: meffaboston] #725911
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i never knew the chump or met or even heard too much of his dealings and as far as Im concerned I never heard no real " importsant figure" talk about him even when his book came out now saying all that I should buy his book to see some of the bullshit yous guys is talking about but then again I rather believe ya'll then this non descript lol now please continue he sounds like a real fibber this guy.


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
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Originally Posted By: southend
Little_Frankie do you know anything about some other guys mentioned like Bobby Rennell, Eddie Insogna. Also he claims to have taken a guy name George Mortimer into his crew as a favor to Beav. You know anything about those guys? Another guy is Brian Porreca who Silverman says was a suspect in several Medford-area murders, was he a serious guy like that?


I remember Perreca and Insogna. IIRC, Porreca was a boxer/trainer. He died about 10 years ago in Vegas where he was living at the time. I never got the impression he was a killer. A tough guy, sure but not a killer. Insogna was just another Malden/Medford kid who hung around the wannabes. His 15 minutes of fame came when he found Patsy Squillante with 2 bullet holes in his head. Since then, I haven't heard anything from or about him.

As for the others like Bobby Rennell, I have NEVER heard those names. My gut tells me that Bobby Rennell was an alias given to protect his true identity. He did mention in the beginning of his book that some of the names have changed to protect some people. If you look at the names he throws out there, all of the real ones have something in common, they are either dead or in jail. That makes me think the others with aliases are still active. If that's the case, I have an idea who Bobby Rennell might be based on when he was away in the book, what he went away for, his physical description and who he had problems with. In fact, I'm almost sure I can guess who it is. The Mortimer character, I have no clue.

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Another thing I found suspicious about his book is that the mobsters he mentions ALL had cases against them around the time and they were all over the news and papers back then. It would be pretty easy to just read the papers back then and plug yourself in to the plot. I don't remember him mentioning one guy who was on the street but NOT in the news. And the guys who were active but NOT in the news were the ones doing all the hustling and making all the dough. Does anyone else find it ironic that he doesn't mention ONE of those guys?

This guy reminds me of a dude who watched the movie Titanic and a week later started telling his friends how he was on a boat one time off the coast of Nova Scotia and hit an ice berg............. You get the idea.

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Re: boston [Re: meffaboston] #726055
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Did you guys notice how horribly written the book is, spelling wise??? It is like it never even got proofread.


Also. How does this Mark fella get to walk around Medford still with this blatant bullshit he speaks in his book? I know for a fact he owns an hvac company in Medford. How come no one give him an ass beating?

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Originally Posted By: caprese
Did you guys notice how horribly written the book is, spelling wise??? It is like it never even got proofread.


Also. How does this Mark fella get to walk around Medford still with this blatant bullshit he speaks in his book? I know for a fact he owns an hvac company in Medford. How come no one give him an ass beating?


Because the only people he mentions by their reals names are either dead or in jail. Someone should find him and invite him here for a little Q&A. There are enough locals here who know the truth that it would takes us about 3 questions t have suffocated in his own lies and bullshit.

What's his companies name?

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Re: boston [Re: Little_Frankie] #726073
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Did you guys notice how horribly written the book is, spelling wise??? It is like it never even got proofread.


Also. How does this Mark fella get to walk around Medford still with this blatant bullshit he speaks in his book? I know for a fact he owns an hvac company in Medford. How come no one give him an ass beating?



Because the only people he mentions by their reals names are either dead or in jail. Someone should find him and invite him here for a little Q&A. There are enough locals here who know the truth that it would takes us about 3 questions t have suffocated in his own lies and bullshit.

What's his companies name?



Q&A would be sweet. Even though there was a bunch of blatant bullshit in that book I did find it interesting for the simple fact that I was always at Paulie boys when that shit was going down. I even helped paint that gym and remember some nights with a bunch of guidos coming into the joint dufflebags filled god knows what...shooting rounds into the dumpster in the middle of the night. So many rumor were going around that Paulie was connected and had friends in NY and from that aspect it made it an interesting read for me.

Anyway, I don't know the name but a friend of mine down in Medford told me he has a company down there and also is always getting arrested for drunk driving and shit like that.

Re: boston [Re: meffaboston] #726100
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I know Paul moved a lot of drugs so he very well might have been getting them from a Lucchese source since they were a huge source for drugs on the east coast. He also worked with enough connected guys to claim he himself was connected so from that standpoint, it's believable in my opinion but I don't think he ever rubbed elbows with any true made guys................except for Silverman. Hahahaha

Look at it like this. If he was truly part of the renegade crew, the renegade crew had no made guys on the street back then. They were both in jail (Ferrara and Carroza). At best, he would have been around Ramano, Ciampi and those clowns.

Re: boston [Re: meffaboston] #726411
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So, safe to say Silverman is the real deal lol

Re: boston [Re: meffaboston] #726606
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Yup...Silverman = capo di tutti capi, lol...What a clown...

Re: boston [Re: meffaboston] #726608
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I agree with you Little_Frankie...The more I think about the more it makes sense that Paul was just an intimidating big Italian dude going around shaking down north shore dealers who couldn't do a thing about it. From the view point of these small time north shore dealers, it did seem to them that they were getting muscled by a made man. I mean the DC crew really looked the part, talked the part and acted the part... I mean Paul truly believed when Ray Jr..and some others made guys got out of the can soon, things were going to change and he would be rewarded for his loyalty to them... I dunno, weird and confusing shit....the Boston scene was all upside down in the mid 90's ... So hard to know who was made and who wasn't uncles of course you were in the know.

Thanks for the input man.

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I admit, when I read the book and came across the 'Paul D' chapter I was surprised to have never heard of him considering the stature Silverman gives him. And I was definitely confused when he was calling him the leader or boss of the renegades. But what I did was overlook it and tried to enjoy the book

Re: boston [Re: meffaboston] #726641
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After all this I don't kno y we even gave this cocksmooch 6 pages lol

Re: boston [Re: meffaboston] #726649
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The one good thing about this book is that it made me finally want to read Last Rites which i'm doing right now. It should take me a couple of days so I'll let you know what I think.

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Originally Posted By: Little_Frankie
The one good thing about this book is that it made me finally want to read Last Rites which i'm doing right now. It should take me a couple of days so I'll let you know what I think.


Last Rites, whats it about?

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The one good thing about this book is that it made me finally want to read Last Rites which i'm doing right now. It should take me a couple of days so I'll let you know what I think.


Last Rites, whats it about?


It's a short book but it's basically the story of Gigi Portalla and the Boston Mob wars.

http://www.amazon.com/Last-Rites-MA-Final-Boston/dp/1596298340

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Originally Posted By: southend
I admit, when I read the book and came across the 'Paul D' chapter I was surprised to have never heard of him considering the stature Silverman gives him. And I was definitely confused when he was calling him the leader or boss of the renegades. But what I did was overlook it and tried to enjoy the book



Ya. I think this right here proves that Silverman was not made and not someone of true significance and power ... He made Paul out to be like this up and comer who was to become the boss of the Patriarca family if the war was one. I think if anything PAul was being strung along to do dirty work and really believed he was going to be a capo in a few years when Ray got out and spread this word to low level dealers like Silverman who in turn gave Paul the respect of being a real big shot because Mark himself was even lower on the pole than Paul and totally duped by him.

Re: boston [Re: meffaboston] #726777
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One thing I can say about Paul D. though, is in fact if shit was fought with fists rather than guns he'd literally be crackin skulls with his fists and feet. He was a tough and intimidating motherfucker.... and he would gladly rot in the can forever if it meant upholding omerta... I honestly believe he would have had great potential if he aligned himself up with the right people and didn't have a cre of degenerate gangbanger thugs..Unfortunately for him, he was not very bright in his dealings.

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always wonder when limone took over in 2009 if he inducted abunch of new guys. you gotta think he sat in the mass. d.o.c. for 33 yrs every and any inspiring wiseguy he probably met from every town and city across mass. wonder why he waited to 2009 to take over when its said baby shacks wanted to turn it over in 02. that's why boston+metro wont lack for recruits. when I think of the philly family doesn't seem like they got a lot of these 70tys 80tys yr old guys. fox new had video of limone in his guys bunch of old guys parking his car hugs and stuff.

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Originally Posted By: pmac
always wonder when limone took over in 2009 if he inducted abunch of new guys. you gotta think he sat in the mass. d.o.c. for 33 yrs every and any inspiring wiseguy he probably met from every town and city across mass. wonder why he waited to 2009 to take over when its said baby shacks wanted to turn it over in 02. that's why boston+metro wont lack for recruits. when I think of the philly family doesn't seem like they got a lot of these 70tys 80tys yr old guys. fox new had video of limone in his guys bunch of old guys parking his car hugs and stuff.


A couple of things to remember when Limone got out with Joe Salvati, it was huge nationwide news because of the FBI coverup etc. It would have been insane for him to dive in headfirst when the entire nation saw him as a nice old family man who was the victim of unconscionable FBI misconduct. There was really no mention of mafia during that time. Remember the crusade Dan Rea from Channel 4 went on for them for years (especially Salvati). Articles in national magazines covered Limone reuniting with his wife and kids, how they couldn't believe it was him napping on the couch, how they were shunned in school because people thought he was a killer and he wasn't. One of the articles mentioned that he had a small criminal record due to mistakes he made as a young man, but nothing close to what he was convicted of , and absolutely no mention of mafia.

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whitey was gonna have joe salvati supeana joe to the stand but back down today I bet limone inducted joe horse as a favor for his years of prisonness, or just to be 1 of the made guys in boston I bet whitey thought about that to why drag him threw the mudd. salvati got caught on a wire couple yrs ago he was some bbig shots driver. was he anthonys driver. even no they say he's a clown and not really a killed I bet he's made. vinny ferrea maybe also turn the job down he respected across the country. salemmi say jr patriarca was afraid vinny would flip in 1989 after leonetti. wanted him killed that's wat started the russo faction.alot the anguilos kids were connected and did time wonder if they got buttons.donato's kids or larry b. my one stop threw the doc I met Bruno balliro cousin of the famous lwayer of boston brother of rocco ithink. Bruno was a nice old dude he told me storys about he dealings in florida packing keys in his coat, didn't know his family is so famous in gangland boston/rhodeisland circles his cousin the lawyer are the best in boston, represented every mob guy around. is he still alive he be early 70tys I now he was never a member maybe his brother and family. he was a cool celle.

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Salvati was driving for Freddy Simone back when there was conflict with him and Dee Dee Gioacchini versus Spucky I think. Spucky may have delivered a few fishes to doorsteps if I remember. That's when Good Looking Matty was called in to smooth things over with his famous 'whores in the neighborhood' comment.

Haven't heard much of Salvati. I doubt if he is too involved but what do I know.

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whos the biggest books in the boston area?

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whos the biggest books in the boston area?


According to most of the rats that have flipped over the years it used to be Doc Sagansky. But now who knows, maybe Richie Gambale's brother Anthony Gambale, guys loaded

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Southend, How big were Tierney's Brother-in-laws Robert and Daniel Eremian and they were with another guy named Lyons, they are from salem ma.

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Southend, How big were Tierney's Brother-in-laws Robert and Daniel Eremian and they were with another guy named Lyons, they are from salem ma.


They weren't big in OC at all. In fact, I would say they were completely disconnected in OC. However, they were huge in the off shore gambling world. They used to own SOS (Sports Off Shore) which was a sports gambling operation in Antigua. You could either call an 800 number or put your bets in online with a credit card. If you had the hook up, you could call or play online and then meet a local agent to pay or collect. This is where they got in to trouble.

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Thanks Little Frankie, I read some more about it last night. They had that off shore and agents all across the US

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I've found out some more info about the relationship between Paul D and the renegade faction. According to an old friend of mine, Paul knew Gigi and those guys through his drug business. He knew they would never win the war because they were all whacked out on smack 24/7. Some guys from Paul's crew stole a bunch of guns from Gigi and his guys. These were the guns that the Silva girl was hiding and the reason she was butchered. Paul was hoping to amass a large cache of weapons to hand over to the Ray JR faction when he got out of jail. My buddy basically said that Paul was begging to be legitimized but he knew the renegades couldn't provide that for him and no one on the other side wanted anything to do with him. His plan was to "buy" his way in by handing this war chest over hoping it would ingratiate him to the LCN.

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Whitey Bulger trial witness Stephen Rakes found dead

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/...found-dead?lite

No obvious signs of trauma to the body. From what I've heard this guy wasn't an innocent victim as he made himself out to be. Any of our Boston guys know any more?


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Whitey Bulger trial witness Stephen Rakes found dead

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/07/...found-dead?lite

No obvious signs of trauma to the body. From what I've heard this guy wasn't an innocent victim as he made himself out to be. Any of our Boston guys know any more?


Little tidbit from the paper, from the paper :

"Stippo Steven Rakes, was a huge ARSONIST, a killer of his first wife with a frying pan, he was a troubled son, troubled brother, troubled friend,I'm not going to say Im gald he is dead because he has a child, but this was not a good man. Here is one for out of towners, Rakes older brother is married to Keven weeks younger sister. Any of you who think weeks did this, please dont be, Kevin if not for whitey would be in jail, becasue he would have joined the gang that counldnt shoot straight. People this is not bad news of Rakes death. Only a hand full of people talked to Stippo, not becasue of whitey, Southie just didnt like him."


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