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trouble in canada
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12/03/12 12:51 AM
12/03/12 12:51 AM
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tommykarate
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Can any1 explain what's going on up they /who's in power now and who's been behind most of the killings?is it calabrian vs Sicilian thing from the cotroni days or is it n in-house power grab from people around Vito cus he was locked up? I've read into a lil but I can't make heads heads or tails.was Vito behind di maulos death possibly
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One thing about wiseguys...the hustle never ends.-tony soprano
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Re: trouble in canada
[Re: tommykarate]
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12/03/12 10:19 PM
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So who was responsible for taken out vitos son and father? And did they know trouble was brewing or was it just out of the blue
One thing about wiseguys...the hustle never ends.-tony soprano
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Re: trouble in canada
[Re: tommykarate]
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12/03/12 10:45 PM
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The current theory is that Raynald Desjardins, Vittorio Mirarchi, Salvatore Montagna, Domenico Arcuri, and Joe Di Maulo formed all conspired as a somewhat democratic group to overthrew the Rizzutos. Nick Sr and Jr hadn't been spreading the wealth around, and the Arcuris had always been sorta marginalized. Montagna wanted to take over and stirred up as much sentiment as he could. Desjardins was close to Vito but ever since Francesco Arcadi ordered the death of one of his best friends, he held a grudge and really didn't give a shit. Montagna warns Nick to step down, Nick tells him to fuck off, and the killings happen.
Arcuri had always backed Montagna and Mirarchi and Di Maulo had always backed Desjardins. They started disagreeing over leadership of the entity that would usurp the Rizzutos. Sal shot first at one of Desjardin's guys. In the end most the soldiers on both sides got knocked down, a notable survivor being Tony Suzuki who worked for Montagna. In the end we all know what happened. Montagna was killed, but Raynald got life in prison.
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Re: trouble in canada
[Re: tommykarate]
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12/05/12 11:29 AM
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Were any other groups like the hells angels or rock machine involved in? Id assume there are members with ties to the groups or other gangs.the ducarme guy that survived the hit.was that related to the war
One thing about wiseguys...the hustle never ends.-tony soprano
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Re: trouble in canada
[Re: BarrettM]
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12/05/12 12:21 PM
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The current theory is that Raynald Desjardins, Vittorio Mirarchi, Salvatore Montagna, Domenico Arcuri, and Joe Di Maulo formed all conspired as a somewhat democratic group to overthrew the Rizzutos. Nick Sr and Jr hadn't been spreading the wealth around, and the Arcuris had always been sorta marginalized. Montagna wanted to take over and stirred up as much sentiment as he could. Desjardins was close to Vito but ever since Francesco Arcadi ordered the death of one of his best friends, he held a grudge and really didn't give a shit. Montagna warns Nick to step down, Nick tells him to fuck off, and the killings happen.
Arcuri had always backed Montagna and Mirarchi and Di Maulo had always backed Desjardins. They started disagreeing over leadership of the entity that would usurp the Rizzutos. Sal shot first at one of Desjardin's guys. In the end most the soldiers on both sides got knocked down, a notable survivor being Tony Suzuki who worked for Montagna. In the end we all know what happened. Montagna was killed, but Raynald got life in prison. That's an interesting theory and it definitely makes sense form a logical stand point. My one question is that did they totally underestimate Vito's resolve or what Vito would do when he got out of prison?
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Re: trouble in canada
[Re: King]
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12/05/12 04:22 PM
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Would love to go to Canada. Go to Vito Rizzuto's club in Montreal and splash the money! Hope he'll become impressed and hire me as an enforcer.  Can't believe Salvatore Montagna was born in Montreal and raised in Sicily & The Bronx and later came back to Montreal for a short period of time, and left Montreal to New York. lol!
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Re: trouble in canada
[Re: Jimmy_Two_Times]
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12/07/12 06:24 PM
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They probably thought he was a defeated old man with his dad and son gone. I wonder if the Bonanno family is helping him, they owe him a solid after the time he did... True that AZ... I guess they are glad he didn't flip and rat like the rest of the Bonanno's. He participated in the 3 Capo hit - they owe him for that. Big Joe Massino and Sal Vitale ratted him out, and don't forget, when he got sentenced he admitted to being a Bonanno "member" in open court. If my memory is correct, Vito was going to serve more time if he did not make the admission in court.
Best way to catch the smart ones? Get an idiot working for them.
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Re: trouble in canada
[Re: azguy]
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12/09/12 03:55 PM
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I don't know about a power trip as much as it will help with future RICO cases. By getting an admission to being a member of a crime family, the Feds can demonstrate an ongoing criminal organization in current and future cases.
Best way to catch the smart ones? Get an idiot working for them.
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