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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #680925
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Eyes let him get upset. This is the same guy that bought the Calabrese Jr sob story. Just let it go.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #680926
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nicky i havent got a clue whos right and whos wrong. im just saying, random assholes on the internet who cant produce proof arent always right. look at me, if i was lying dont you think someone wouldve called me out by now?then notice rico weho has had a half dozen people disagree with him. just use your judgement is all im saying.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: carmela] #680927
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Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: ricobenes
Oh god, it's back. Will. Not. Engage. Miserable old hags. Lololol


Boo fucking hooo Carmela caught me in a lie. Boo fucking hoo I wish I was sicilian. Boo fucking hoo I forget where I was born when I type too fast. Boo fucking hoo I just found out from my mom that I was a load she wishes she took on her back. frown frown


why are you getting so angry about this??

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: ricobenes] #680928
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You do realise you don't need a crime family to have interests in a casino or business in a different place. If i had the money i could buy a casino or a restaurant in monaco if i wanted and send someone there to manage it for me as well, doesn't mean anything.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #680929
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haha thats great...and riccobenes your not contributing your being an ass dude let it go an get back to chicago chinatown cicero or whatever

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #680930
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yeah but he's been involved for decades

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: NickyEyes1] #680931
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: ricobenes
Oh god, it's back. Will. Not. Engage. Miserable old hags. Lololol


Boo fucking hooo Carmela caught me in a lie. Boo fucking hoo I wish I was sicilian. Boo fucking hoo I forget where I was born when I type too fast. Boo fucking hoo I just found out from my mom that I was a load she wishes she took on her back. frown frown


why are you getting so angry about this??


I'm not angry. What makes you say that? This clown is a joke. I caught him lying. You should be angry for him trying to get over on people.

Do yourself a favor Nicky, mind your fucking business.


La madre degli idioti e' sempre incinta.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: NickyEyes1] #680932
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No, I have made my argument on here several times if you go back and read.

There have been no arrests for any Outfit related crimes committed since 2004.

The Outfit hasn't killed anyone since 2001.

Frank Calabrese Sr. was caught on a wire lamenting the diminished state of the Outfit as far back as the late 90s. He said "... you could take the whole thing over if you just got rid of five guys... that's it... it's come to that."

And a bunch of other anecdotal evidence that would strongly suggest it is in piss poor shape.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: carmela] #680934
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Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
Originally Posted By: carmela
Originally Posted By: ricobenes
Oh god, it's back. Will. Not. Engage. Miserable old hags. Lololol


Boo fucking hooo Carmela caught me in a lie. Boo fucking hoo I wish I was sicilian. Boo fucking hoo I forget where I was born when I type too fast. Boo fucking hoo I just found out from my mom that I was a load she wishes she took on her back. frown frown


why are you getting so angry about this??


I'm not angry. What makes you say that? This clown is a joke. I caught him lying. You should be angry for him trying to get over on people.

Do yourself a favor Nicky, mind your fucking business.


well if your posting on a public forum, its pretty much everyone's business so pm him if you get so offended by it

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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: jonnynonos] #680937
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Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
No, I have made my argument on here several times if you go back and read.

There have been no arrests for any Outfit related crimes committed since 2004.

The Outfit hasn't killed anyone since 2001.

Frank Calabrese Sr. was caught on a wire lamenting the diminished state of the Outfit as far back as the late 90s. He said "... you could take the whole thing over if you just got rid of five guys... that's it... it's come to that."

And a bunch of other anecdotal evidence that would strongly suggest it is in piss poor shape.


Anthony Zizzo?

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #680938
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Lol uh oh the skank returns. Listen, sweetheart, whatever irrelevant spat you think were involved in (it began with an innocent typo), you lose. Now chin up, shut up, and go fix us a plate while we banter.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: jonnynonos] #680939
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This has become a real sandbox. Alright, everyone take a breath and count to ten, and then chill.


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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #680940
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Frank Calabrese, Jr and Sr, were a couple of simpleton idiots, they couldn't take anything over even if they put their fuck all everything into it. That's why he's rotting in solitary confinement. He would say make a dickheaded claim like that, jealous, envious, bitter guy.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: ricobenes] #680941
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Rico just earned himself a two week vacation for his flaming crap. One more time and he's gone for good.


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Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: ricobenes] #680944
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Originally Posted By: ricobenes
Lol uh oh the skank returns. Listen, sweetheart, whatever irrelevant spat you think were involved in (it began with an innocent typo), you lose. Now chin up, shut up, and go fix us a plate while we banter.


An innocent typo is not forgetting where you were born and in what country. So you lied about being born in Sicily. But why? A lie isn't a typo.

Nicky, I don't like people coming around to lie, don't get it twisted. Why should you believe anything else he says if he lies about where he comes from? But as far as me getting angry about him trying to insult me? Not even close. How can a guy that doesn't know me insult me?


La madre degli idioti e' sempre incinta.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: NickyEyes1] #680946
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Sorry my mistake; you are correct. 2006.

Anyway, Nick Calabrese flipped, and in spite of the above post, had enough information to put away two of the biggest guys in Marcello and Lombardo for crimes committed 30 years ago, and solved something like 15 murders.

Between Calabrese Sr.'s wire and Nick Calabrese's flipping, absolutely nothing like you guys are suggesting came out. Nada. Zilch.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: jonnynonos] #680949
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Originally Posted By: jonnynonos
In general you can't disprove a negative.

Anyway, to answer the original question, here are the 28 members. I actually copied this from one of Ivy League's old posts.

1. Joseph Andriacchi
2. Dominic Basso
3. Robert Bellavia
4. Frank Calabrese
5. Bruno Caruso
6. Frank Caruso
7. Leo Caruso
8. Marco D'Amico
9. John DiFronzo
10. Joseph DiFronzo
11. Peter M. DiFronzo
12. Salvatore DeLaurentis
13. Rudolph Fratto
14. Michael Gurgone
15. James Inendino
16. Joseph Frank LaMantia
17. Joseph Lombardo
18. Rocco Lombardo
19. Michael Magnifichi
20. James Marcello
21. Louis Marino
22. John Matassa
23. Salvatore Muserino
24. Albert Roverio
25. Michael Spano Sr.
26. John Eugene Spizzirri
27. Richard Allen Spizzirri
28. Michael C. Talarico
Thank god No nose , Nine pages of bs before someone answered my question, sweet

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #680951
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LOL. You got it. Looks pretty solid.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #680952
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Also I'm Gunna go ahead and add Sarno as the only new significant made guy, I have absolutely no proof of this and it's merely a hunch but I believe Marcello probabley inducted both "Mutt and Jeff" aka Sarno and Sal Cautadella

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #680953
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I believe Muserino has passed but not for sure.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #680954
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Definitely.

I actually went to Sarno's trial for a day. He didn't testify but he was sitting in the box. It was pretty cool. He is really f**king fat.

I guess the rumor is he had Anthony Calabrese knock down Chiarmonti.

Did you ever read the wire they had on Anthony Calabrese? Pretty cool.

http://media1.suntimes.com/multimedia/010708mob2.pdf_20080106_16_32_33_17.imageContent

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #680978
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
I'm curious to know this: how come the Outfit has gone from one of the most powerful crime families in the US, to supposedly a mid-sized family run by a bunch of old farts who barely do anything except shuffle around social clubs and run video poker machines and a few legit businesses.

New York, no many how many times the Feds hit them always come back. Even the Colombo's, hell they aren't going away. The Genovese Family controls the entire port of New Jersey even in this day and age.

I'm not saying it's true, but it just seems Chicago slided in a very short period of time.



The Westside might have some interests/rackets/guys on the ports of NJ,but take it from my personal experience (which I dont say on here very often) they DEF dont control the entire port, not even a quarter of it. This is not too diminish them on there, but just saying their control is very often overblown/overstated.


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #680981
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id say other than port newark.thats right.

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: Dapper_Don] #680982
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
The Westside might have some interests/rackets/guys on the ports of NJ,but take it from my personal experience (which I dont say on here very often) they DEF dont control the entire port, not even a quarter of it. This is not too diminish them on there, but just saying their control is very often overblown/overstated.
i have no personal experience, but of coarse they wouldn't control the whole waterfront. but as far as OC is concerned, they have the nj ports on lockdown.


It's either blue cheese with wings or go fuck yer mudda!
Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: gamms] #680984
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Originally Posted By: sitonmyface11
lol.if i told you guys who my cousin wad yousd think im nuts.


do tell


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: Five_Felonies] #680985
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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
The Westside might have some interests/rackets/guys on the ports of NJ,but take it from my personal experience (which I dont say on here very often) they DEF dont control the entire port, not even a quarter of it. This is not too diminish them on there, but just saying their control is very often overblown/overstated.
i have no personal experience, but of coarse they wouldn't control the whole waterfront. but as far as OC is concerned, they have the nj ports on lockdown.


I would agree with that as far as OC is concerned.


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: Dapper_Don] #680986
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Originally Posted By: sitonmyface11
lol.if i told you guys who my cousin wad yousd think im nuts.


do tell


I second that, DD... Come on, sit - we won't tell nobody! smile

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: gamms] #680987
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Originally Posted By: sitonmyface11
id say other than port newark.thats right.


Im DEF including port newark on there,as a matter of fact thats where I have the most personal knowledge and recent (as in I was out on the Port last week). The Westside def has interests there just not as pervasive as many people think. Hope I didnt misinterpret your post, lol.


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #680997
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is the big guys brother in law still in 1804?

Re: Chicago Outfit: The 28 members [Re: TonyBoy117] #680998
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as far as my cousin, no. sorry.

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