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Re: Wiretaps From The Old Days [Re: King] #680290
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Cool,i never knew that Fratiano's voice was on that wiretap


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lol, Good isn't it? You gotta get up a little early to catch me Toodoped.

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[Jimmy Fratianno]

Fratianno: I kill people better than others, I think it would bother me If I killed an innocent person.

Man: What do you mean by innocent person.

Fratianno: Well, your an innocent person my friend.

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High tension convo between Frank Sinatra & Control Board's chairman Ed Olson bout Sinatra's casino license...

Frank:"You listen to me Ed... .you're acting like a fucking cop, I just want to talk to you off the record."

Ed:"Who I am speaking to?"

Frank:"This is Frank Sinatra! You fucking asshole! F-R-A-N-K, Sinatra."

Frank:"Now, you listen Ed! I don't have to take this kind of shit from anybody in the country and I'm not going to take it from you people...I'm Frank Sinatra!"

Frank:"You just try and find me," the singer threatened, "and if you do you can look for a big fat surprise...a big fat fucking surprise. You remember that, now listen to me Ed, don't fuck with me. Don't fuck with me, just don't fuck with me."

Ed:"Are you threatening me?"

Frank:"No...just don't fuck with me and you can tell that to your fucking board of directors and that fucking commission too."

Ed:"It might be better for all concerned if you concentrate on your enterprises elsewhere and depart the Nevada gambling scene?!"

Frank:"I might just do that. . .and when I do, I'm going to tell the world what a bunch of (obscene gerund) idiots run things in this state."

The next day two investigators came to watch the count at the Cal-Neva and Sinatra yelled across the casino to Skinny D'Amato, "Throw the dirty sons of bitches out of the house."

But since the count had already started, the agents left before an incident could be started, but came back the next day, only to have D'Amato offer them $100 each "to cooperate." The agents reported the bribe to Olson, who took moves to revoke Sinatra's license.

source: http://www.americanmafia.com/Feature_Articles_109.html

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[Federico "Fritzy" Giovanelli and Frank "Frankie California" Condo]

Fritzy: Hey, Frankie, these are the best two fucking days, yesterday and, and today so far.

Frank: I'm glad, I'm happy.

Fritzy: I'm already planning' all f***inh rapes, I'm planning.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: Yeah.

Frank: Marone. You better keep quiet somebody might be there.

Fritzy: No, there's nobody, only the cleaning woman. And she's about 60-years-old.

Frank: Eh.

Fritzy: Well, did you come down last night?

Frank: No.

Fritzy: Ah, good. I, I, she bought some, uh, I had my friend with me.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: He's calling me f***ing names. Freddy the Frog, Frankie the Frog.

Frank: Me too?

Fritzy: Yeah, Frankie the Frog, Freddie the Frog. Oh yeah, he goes, “I gotta call…that's better, Frankie the Frog.” Well I says, “Well Freddy the Frog is Frankie's brother.”

Fritzy: I says, “Hey, we're brothers, so you…” alright, he's calling, ah, ah, what the fuck was he, all f***ing names. He's crazy. He's crazy.

Frank: I know.

Fritzy: He’s crazy.

Fritzy: What? He’s goin’, “Frog.” Meantime, thought in my f***ing head he win the game. He knows what he's doing. He knows what he's doing. He gives ya a f***ing spin.

Frank: Why'd ya go down Sunday? You're starting to break him in again.

Fritzy: Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. Nah, nah.

Frank: You're breaking him in again. He'll have you down there all summer.

Fritzy: Fuck that. I ain't going, I got too many f***ing things, my, I, uh, he told the other guy, the other guys going to California.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: He said he told Larry, he says, “You gotta hang around.”

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: He says, “You wanna bury me,“ he told him. Larry says, “You wanna give me the f***ing last rites.”

Frank: I know.

Fritzy: Mannaggia marone. This guy, this guy's got cancer, he dyin' and everything.

Frank: F***ing joint, he's worried about that joint stayin' open.

Fritzy: I don't know.

Frank: Huh.

Fritzy: Huh.

Frank: Uh. Wants to keep the f***ing joint night and day, night and day.

Fritzy: I know.

Frank: People open four o'clock in the afternoon. He wants to open Saturday and Sunday, seven o'clock in the morning.

Fritzy: What the f*** is there?.

Frank: Nobody.

Fritzy: What the f*** is there?. You know? Ha?

Fritzy: Anyhow, you uh, you feeling a little better?

Frank: Yeah, I feel better.

Fritzy: But you're rested up more, ya know, I mean…

Frank: I've been coughing.

Fritzy: Well you bet, look, hang up now and go, find out what time your appointment. Whatya, ya, ya. Ya know the guy might have morning appointments. He may, may have it in the afternoon. Call right now. Get that resolved Frank.

Frank: As soon as I come back from that f***ing appointment I'm starting exercising

Fritzy: Well, find out what they tell you.

Frank: You got all that stuff down there you never use it. I wish I had that, I'd be using it everyday.

Fritzy: Frankie, Frankie, my life is not that f***ing easy.

Frank: You got no time for yourself.

Fritzy: Alright, my f***ing life ain't that easy.

Frank: Try and get The Rubber this week. The Rubber.

Fritzy: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Rubber, The Rubber killed me.

Frank: Now listen to me. You leave that part of your body alone.

Fritzy: The Rubber killed me.

Frank: The other part. You see how nice your face looked? You circulated your blood.

Fritzy: You're right.

Frank: That was good for you.

Fritzy: You're right. But I, I just gotta give myself some time. Once I got the...

Frank: He could rub you down there, it's all cured.

Fritzy: Once I'm cured I want it to heal now. I gotta put the heat and the medication until for another day or two while I'm heal, ya know healing it up. I finally got, ya know, some place. I, I mean Frankie, you woulda heard the click here like the boom that went in. Ya know, ya know I went to chiropractors, I went everyplace I went. I went to the bone man. I got all kind of medication. The chiropractor all he did was press on me.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: He didn't do no f***ing stretching like this, this was a, if you come here and see the way I stretch it, and it's an actual pull. You know a lot of times we pull our legs and all that there. It ain't good enough. You know what I'm talking about?

Frank: In the old days of the, the rack.

Fritzy: Of the rack. The same thing like the rack. If you come, you see this is like the rack.

Frank: You would have no trouble.

Fritzy: No trouble at all. Your f***ing back is fine. Well that's what I got here. I got the rack.

Frank: Put them on the rack.

Fritzy: Yeah I got the rack. Come here, you'll see the rack.

Fritzy: Yeah, it's great. I got the cure now. My cousin Patty was walking by this morning.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: I said, “What's the matter?” “My f***ing sciatica.” I says, “Come with me, come to my house. Right now I cure you.” “Nah, nah, nah.” “Come with me,” I told him.

Frank: He’s on the rack.

Fritzy: Yeah, I put him on the f***ing rack. I straightened him out.

Frank: You're gettin' more people comin' there now.

Fritzy: I know, well look, I cured him.

Frank: They'll be coming from all over .

Fritzy: I'll cure them.

Frank: Before you know it, you'll be putting a shingle out.

Fritzy: Of the cure. I got the cure. You know something, how much money I went through? Have you any idea?

Frank: And all you needed was the rack.

Fritzy: The rack. And that's all anybody does need is the rack.

Frank: And it pulled it right out, huh?

Fritzy: That's right. That's all you need. But you see that other, c'mere, you see that other, thing the gravity bar?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: It's not good enough.

Frank: No.

Fritzy: Because you need somebody else pulling ya on the other side. To pull you down, to give you that, ah, to pull you in.

Frank: Yeah, huh.

Fritzy: Yeah. I, I, I, I'm finding all the medications over here.

Frank: Now you feel good?

Fritzy: Well, so, look, Frankie I don't wanna talk myself into, ya know what I mean? Into something.

Frank: If you got a click there that was just…

Fritzy: I got a big click.

Frank: Yeah, that's it.

Fritzy: A big click. Even my wife heard it.

Frank: There's no more clicks?

Fritzy: No, now since I been hanging, no click. In other words after that major click that one thing, no more.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: I haven't heard anymore now. I've done it already four times since then. And I'm going now, I’m going on right now.

Frank: Maybe I'll come there, get one too.

Fritzy: Well, whenever you want, you come over here, nice, you lay out, and I show ya how. And you give yourself as much force as you wanna give yourself. Nobody's gonna force. In other words, it's a question of how much you wanna give yourself.

Frank: You’re getting taller than me now…

Fritzy: You better believe it, wait'll you see. Either that or I was…

Frank: Hah?

Fritzy: Ya know what my wife told me?

Frank: Hah?

Fritzy: My wife told me about my mother-in-law. My mother-in-law hurt her vertebraes going back. She broke her back. All, real tough time she had.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Do you know that woman shrunk three inches?

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: Because of the disintegrating vertebraes?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Three inches!

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thats fritzy!lol. sounds just like him. he could chew your fucking ear off quicker than a rotweiler. his sentences sounded just like that to.lol...'yeah, hey, well, the fuck, you know, that fucking, that,that,that fucking guy, he,he,he just, just fucking, fucking, fucking,.....' .lol! and all you could get in edgwise was a quick 'uh huh'.lol. he is a real gentlemen. very,and i mean very generous guy.

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lol. 'Fritzy: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Rubber, The Rubber killed me.

Frank: Now listen to me. You leave that part of your body alone.

Fritzy: The Rubber killed me.

Frank: The other part. You see how nice your face looked? You circulated your blood.

Fritzy: You're right.

Frank: That was good for you.

Fritzy: You're right. But I, I just gotta give myself some time. Once I got the...

Frank: He could rub you down there, it's all cured. ' haha

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Lol. Yeah, I wish he didn't swear as much. It takes me longer to add the **** sign.

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[Federico "Fritzy" Giovanelli and Frank "Frankie California" Condo talking about financial advice]

Frank: Well, you got a, you, you were workin' a little bit, no Freddie?

Fritzy: Yeah, I am. Yeah, well, my boss has been good with me.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: Yeah. I'll tell ya, I got sick, he didn't take me off the payroll or nothin', ya know?

Frank: Oh, that's nice.

Fritzy: He, ya know, he was very good about it. So...

Frank: That's good.

Fritzy: So, at least I, I didn't have to go on a f***ing disability claim.

Frank: Right.

Fritzy: Well, thank God for that.

Frank: That's the main thing.

Fritzy: In other words, I had to go on disability.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: Who the f***, how the f*** you gonna survive?

Frank: I know.

Fritzy: You know, uh, lot of things.

Frank: I know what it is. I get my pension check, my friend, helps me out a lot, too.

Fritzy: Eh, I wish I had one.

Frank: Huh?

Fritzy: I wish I had one...

Frank: I worked all my life.

Fritzy: I, well, whattya think I done?

Frank: I know.

Fritzy: Ya know, I'm on a f***ing, I'm paying Social Security since I'm 18. I'm 53 years old. I never missed a f***ing year.

Frank: Well, you have a pension when you get older.

Fritzy: Yeah, but look at the, what pension I'm gonna have?

Frank: Why?

Fritzy: I, if I could take my money, Reagan (President) is passing a new law.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: That you don't have to join the Social Security.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: And you as an individual could say, "I don't wish to participate in Social Security."

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Now, there's states that abide by that, ya know?

Frank: Yeah, but that's a good thing.

Fritzy: What?

Frank: Social Security.

Fritzy: No it ain't.

Frank: Why?

Fritzy: Because if you add up what I put into Social Security...

Frank: Yeah, go ahead and add it up. And when you hit 65, you know what you're gonna get back?

Fritzy: What?

Frank: You get like 1500 a month. You might get a thousand a month and you might, say you're gonna live 'til 80 years old.

Fritzy: Yeah. Oogatz, yeah.

Frank: You gonna live 65, 70, 75...

Fritzy: Yeah. Tony Andrews, the first f***ing check he never cashed. He was 65.

Frank: He did, he never...

Fritzy: He never cashed the f***ing thing.

Frank: No, he died, huh?

Fritzy: He died, before, he couldn't even cash the f***ing thing. It came and he died before...

Frank: How long is he dead now?

Fritzy: Marone. I don't know, about ten years.

Frank: He woulda been, like uh...

Fritzy: Nah, he woulda been...

Frank: 75.

Fritzy: 75. He was young.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: He was young, ya know. But, hey, the booze.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: The f***ing booze.

Frank: That f***ing booze, you abuse it.

Fritzy: An alcoholic. I used to call him Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Yep, no f***ing good.

Frank: He borrowed ya?

Fritzy: Yep, but that, I don't care about that. I don't mind a guy borrowin', he ain't got nothing. This guy's got.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: Yeah, this coc*suck**. This, I'm gonna, ya know, really. He's got...

Frank: ...home, he's got a, he's got a condominium.

Fritzy: He's got a condo, he's buyin' a new car. That's when I wanna, "You coc*suck**. That three, that five, six thousand dollars that you gonna go put on a f***ing car, you f***ing no good coc*suck**, you." You know, really?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: No good bas***d

Frank: Never made an attempt...

Fritzy: What about all the f***ing jewelry, all the f***ing jewelry they got. Nice.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: If I had, I owed my f***ing money, I'd take all the rings, everything I got and I'd go and sell 'em and say, "Here, lemme pay my debts."

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Who the f***? What kinda? I'll tell ya one thing. The day I live and the day I die, when I die, nobody's gonna come and say, "The man owed me ten thousand. The man owed me two thousand." I ra, I will go to work before it ever comes.

Frank: ...the same way

Fritzy: Before it comes to that. Before it ever comes to that.

Frank: Freddie.

Fritzy: Cause some people, they got no face, they got.

Frank: That's right.

Fritzy: I'll tell ya, I'll tell ya. That's why I say, all my f***ing life, I says, I used to laugh, "This guy. Oh, what a wonderful guy. That guy. Oh yeah, alright." I says, ya know what I used to say? "I ain't got much, but they gotta shine my f***ing shoes as far as f***ing principle."

Frank: You gotta be, you better believe that.

Fritzy: Yeah. No, to myself I used to say. I says, "Look at all this f***ing bulls**t." To myself, I know my conduct. And that's all I...

Frank: You got a heart of gold, Freddie.

Fritzy: No, pa, look. The heart is one thing.

Frank: You gotta heart of f***ing gold.

Fritzy: Ya hear what I says?

Frank: Make a fool out of you.

Fritzy: Cal, the heart is one thing. The second thing is the face.

Frank: Yeah, I know...

Fritzy: The face, the face is more important.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: In other words, they got they got the face of a wh***. They don't give a f*** one way or the other, "Well, yeah. Okay." I gotta have somebody be little me.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: And while I know I'm.., ya gotta know how to co, how to handle them people, you know what I mean? You know, that, that's their game. That's the way. "Alright, fine." There's just so much you, you do. And just so much that comes and reverse.

Frank: Right.

Fritzy: But this guy turned out to be a real lemonade.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: And he, he abused his family, that dirty coc*suck**. Not even his own sister's talkin' to him now.

Frank: No kiddin'?

Fritzy: Sure. He abused...

Frank: That how bad he is?

Fritzy: What?

Frank: That's how bad he is, huh?

Fritzy: You know how much money he took away from them? Have you any idea?

Frank: Hey, Freddie. A junkie and a degenerate gambler is the same thing.

Fritzy: Well, I'll tell ya something. I wanna, he, ya know, he, he, he, eh, ya know, eh, he just, he's out of line. He's way outta f***ing line, this guy.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: He's just outta line.

Frank: He don't gamble no more, huh?

Fritzy: Eh, he's a coc*suck**. He turned around, nice, bulls****** , "Ah, I'm gonna, I'm sellin' over here and I'm goin' to Florida." "Oh, Florida's alright, huh?" He supposed to sell that place and pay his debts.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: Now he comes back, he says to me, "Oh, if I sell it there's only about 20,000 in there." "Yeah? Well then sell it to me, ya coc*suck**,'' I says. I'd like to stick it in his a**.

Frank: Huh?

Fritzy: I'd like to stick it in his ass. "C'mon, we'll put it on the market. I'll send the guys in on the market price and see what you pull out with."

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Uh, really.

Frank: Why don't you do it?

Fritzy: Nah, I'm gonna. I don't let him bulls*** me. F*** him.

Frank: Don't let him bulls*** ya.

Fritzy: I'm not. I'm, I ain't gonna tolerate him no more.

Frank: If he's like that Freddie, don't let him f***ing bulls*** ya.

Fritzy: He's, that, that's the way he is. You know why?

Frank: Uh-huh?

Fritzy: The home, that's all I, I went by the, by his sister-in law dear departed soul. She said, "They all call me f***ing nuts. I holler. I holler." He took his brother's business, he took his brother-in-law's f***ing business. He took the, all them, them shares. He ate it and he gobbled it all up for himself, this dirty ba**ard

Frank: huh?

Fritzy: Yeah.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: And he ate it all up for himself.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: Nice, nice, nice, nice. And then, I don't mind, never mind I don't mind that. And they were, they were getting' their handy pay, ya know?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Before you know it, they reduced it and reduced it. They reduced them to nothin'. He reduced them, ya know? Eh, this is a...

Frank: His brother's family.

Fritzy: What?

Frank: His brother's own family.

Fritzy: Yeah. Yeah. He don't talk to them across the street. He wishes they were never there. Yeah, I'll tell ya, the guy that made him make the f***ing livin'. And I'm the guy that, ya know, I caught him, uh, ya know, doin' the Russki-Tushki there.

Frank: Yeah?

Fritzy: Goin' back.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: He made me go, dear departed soul the brother made me go through all the papers, everything. Marone, what I didn't catch on this guy.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: I...

Frank: You caught 'em, huh?

Fritzy: Yeah. I says, "Tony." Wait, wait, wait. I says, "Tony." "I've been to this. I do that." "Tony, you wanna take my advice?" I says, "He's your brother. You'll make a big stink over here and you're gonna look bad yourself. The best you could do is you clip his wings, stay on top of him and from now on you'll watch and do whatever you gotta do, this, this and that. I stopped him from doin' a lot of things. I shouldn't have stopped him. When I think about it, ya know? And he corrected it and all of a sudden, Tony was gettin', like, double or triple what he used to get.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: You know, uh, hey...

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: So if he could rob his brother then when he was alive, imagine after he died.

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Fritzy: So whattya been doin'? You been drinkin' or...

Frank: Who's home? Nobody?

Fritzy: Nobody. No.

Frank: We went out last night. Me and Quiet Dom.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: Yeah, we painted the town.

Fritzy: You're kidding?

Frank: Yup.

Fritzy: Yeah, where'd youse go?

Frank: We went to Marylou's. Yeah, we ate down there.

Fritzy: Just the two of youse?

Frank: And a few other people.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: That's nice. You had a good time?

Frank: Alright. Then he went back. I didn't go back.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: He must be sayin', "This coc*suck** didn't come back." Heh-heh-heh.

Fritzy: Uh.

Frank: Top of 'em all the time.

Fritzy: Uh, well.

Frank: Huh?

Fritzy: Ya know.

Frank: Huh?

Fritzy: whattya gonna do, ya know?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Whattya gonna do, whattya gonna do? In the meantime...

Frank: Hey, ya got your own life. Ya gotta have a little recreation. That f***ing joint, ya can't be in there night and day.

Fritzy: That'll kill ya, California.

Frank: I know it.

Fritzy: They'll f***ing kill ya, I'll tell ya.

Frank: That f***ing dampness in there at three o'clock in the morning.

Fritzy: Ah. I don't know how the f***, eh.

Frank: Huh?

Fritzy: I feel sorry for ya, I'll tell ya the f***ing truth.

Frank: I ain't putting this winter in there.

Fritzy: I'll tell ya.

Frank: Takin' off, I'm, I'm comin' home.

Fritzy: I feel sorry for ya.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Yeah, I, I, with all my heart. Don't repeat, I don't wanna...

Frank: I'm not a f***ing kid, you know.

Fritzy: I don't wanna f***ing say it, but ah...

Frank: Up every morning until two o'clock, three o'clock in the morning.

Fritzy: Ah.

Frank: That f***ing place is like an iceberg.

Fritzy: Hey.

Frank: Huh?

Fritzy: If you don't feel good, go home.

Frank: Oh, yeah.

Fritzy: Go home.

Frank: Right.

Fritzy: You understand?

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: You know, say, "Hey, I'm gettin' weary, I can't take it. I got the chills."

Frank: Hmm.

Fritzy: "I got the pains. I got the pains. I got the chills." This f***ing way ya get home a little earlier.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: And you get up a little earlier and, and you change your routine a little bit, ya know what I mean?

Frank: Right.

Fritzy: Now, ya know. Look, I, I, how the f***, I don't know how f***ing' long you could uh take it. I'll tell ya the fuckin' truth. Ya gotta take it, ya gotta take it.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: There's nothin' else, uh, to do, but I'm only sayin' that that's kinda f***ing, ya know, eh.

Frank: He's, he's not a, a considerate man, ya know? He's not a considerate man. He's always for himself, ya know, in other words.

Fritzy: I can't f***ing believe, he'll give ya the, he'll give ya, f***ing the shirt off his f***ing back...

Frank: He'll rip ya in another one.

Fritzy: That's right. He'll f***ing rip you to death. You're right, you're right.

Frank: Forget about it. He'll take the good out of everything.

Fritzy: Ah, marone a mi.

Frank: You could do so many things for so many years and then you make one little error and, uh, forget about it.

Fritzy: I know. I know, pal.

Frank: Ya know?

Fritzy: I know all about it, pal.

Frank: There's no lookin' at the good parts, ya know, the good years.

Fritzy: Ah.

Frank: Ya know?

Fritzy: I wish, uh, ya know, I wish I could talk to ya better. I can't talk to ya the way I would wanna talk to ya.

Frank: How's your wife? Alright?

Fritzy: Yeah. Ya know, uh, ya know, up and down, hot and cold. Ya know, like uh...

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Few days okay, everything is fine. All of a sudden, out of nowhere...

Frank: Everybody's cognito. Over there, that guy had a wedding in The Plaza, forget about it.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: That guy, what's his name in Brooklyn? You know who I mean.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Frank: What a f***ing wedding I hear he had.

Fritzy: Oh, you're just startin' to find out?

Frank: Mamma mi.

Fritzy: You're just startin' to find out?

Frank: The governor was there.

Fritzy: You're startin' to find out? Who the f*** is he kiddin'? Do ya, ya know, I gotta tell ya something, not for nothing. The governor was there, the f***ing United States senator was there, the congressmen were there.

Frank: I know.

Fritzy: The, the f***ing guy from Japan was there, the guy from, the ambassador from f***ing Ekinawa, Okinawa was there. You, you make one f***ing turn around the f***ing bend], you understand what I'm sayin'?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Who the f*** are they kiddin', who the f*** are they kiddin'?

Frank: Hmm.

Fritzy: Ya know, you know, really.

Frank: He had a little party.

Fritzy: Well that's, look, ya know.

Frank: Huh. Mmm?

Fritzy: Eh, what can I tell ya, my friend?

Frank: The guy had some blowout, right?

Fritzy: Forget about it. You know, ya know why we didn't get a f***ing invitation?

Frank: Mmm?

Fritzy: Cause he didn't want nobody to see who the f*** he invited.

Frank: No. He didn't, eh...

Fritzy: No?

Frank: Gave ya an invitation.

Fritzy: Who?

Frank: Nah.

Fritzy: Hey, he knew...

Frank: Everybody.

Fritzy: Pal, he knew how to bother me.

Frank: He gave even The Rubber.

Fritzy: Wha?

Frank: He gave The Rubber an invitation.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: Yeah. You know the guy that rubs me?

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: He, he, he got one.

Fritzy: He goes out there, to Brooklyn?

Frank: Yeah, he rubs 'em.

Fritzy: Oh, he does?

Frank: He lives out there.

Fritzy: Wha?

Frank: He lives near there, he knows, he's born around there.

Fritzy: Well, The Rubber is one thing. That don't mean nothin', but I'm...

Frank: I'm sayin' he gave him one, and ya know he's gonna tell, uh, who is that this guy everything, huh?

Fritzy: Yeah, well that don't mean nothin'. He gave him one too. He sent one to him.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Ya know?

Frank: Uh-huh?

Fritzy: But, uh, I just, I just...

Frank: You didn't get one, huh?

Fritzy: No. No.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: Not that, you know why?

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: He asked, he sent somebody personally for a couple of favors which I went out of my f***ing way.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: And I done it. I went half a f***ing dozen times, back and forth, back and forth. Now the wedding comes, he don't send a f***ing invitation?

Frank: Hmm.

Fritzy: You know what I'm talkin' about?

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: Eh, you know something, I happened to be at the fuckin', I happened to be somewhere.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: And I put some money in an envelope and sent it.

Frank: Oh, you did?

Fritzy: Yeah. In other words, I do one better.

Frank: That was nice of you.

Fritzy: Yeah, well, ya know, I turn around, so, so one guy had remarked, "He would've sent everything down."

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: But, uh, ya know. He just...

Frank: The other guy didn't want it.

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[A lousy investment leads fiscally conservative Fritzy and associate Harry Dickran to conclude that their money is better served in more legitimate rackets than the stock market. Also, Harry talks about having to can an ungrateful brother-in-law whom he pity-hired at his wife's urging.]

Fritzy: How'd the stocks do?

Harry: About the same. Ya know, there, there's no big, radical movement.

Fritzy: No, huh?

Harry: Nah.

Fritzy: I thought there was some big, major change.

Harry: I thought so, too, with those two articles...

Fritzy: Yeah, right.

Harry: I figured that at least those two would, like, start...

Fritzy: Well, ya know, lemme tell ya about these, they lay and wait, they don't jump on it right away. They wait. The money guys go out and investigate it. They wait, they look, they say, "You know what? It's true. Okay, let's start." Ya know?

Harry: But these articles should've helped. Those articles were good articles.

Fritzy: When did your stock first drop?

Harry: When?

Fritzy: Yeah, the very first time?

Harry: Oh, the day, I guess, the first day that they got all...

Fritzy: What was that in May? When the hell did they get hit?

Harry: Yeah, yeah about May, ya know, May 10th.

Fritzy: Alright, listen to me. You guys have to look to sell out around May 10th or before. Way before, maybe April.

Harry: Oh, yeah.

Fritzy: Ya know why?

Harry: If we knew.

Fritzy: No, 'cause they'll boost, no, I'm talkin' about this comin' up. They'll boost it now, boost it, and around, you'll be told, "Keep it, hold it, hold it..."

Harry: Nah, no more.

Fritzy: "...Keep it." Listen to me. April, we'll make a D-Day, we all go in...

Harry: You know what I did? You know what I had our accountant do?

Fritzy: Wha?

Harry: I had our accountant take a, take a, list of all the stocks, on all, everybody. Pensions, personal...

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: ...the whole thing. "What was the average price that we bought at?" 'Cause, ya know, some we bought at three...

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: ... some we bought at nine.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: Ya know, so we averaged it out, uh, "You bought it at six."

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: So I told him, "Now, the minute this goes, like six and a half, seven. Out."

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: Ya know, and then the next start. Soon as it comes to that, "Out."

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: Until we get our money back and that's it.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: Then, f*** it, we're out of it.

Fritzy: That's right.

Harry: And, uh, there's the last time you see me do that.

Fritzy: What a f***ing joke.

Harry: Then I put it into the bank, ya know, I get a nice eight percent, eight and a half percent.

Fritzy: That's right.

Harry: Guaranteed. I sleep.

Fritzy: That's right.

Harry: F*** this.

Fritzy: I had it layin' there. Nice. I had it layin' there. I go take it out, I go put it over here. I can't believe what the f*** I done.

Harry: You know something? My, my living, my living, like your living and...

Fritzy: Right.

Harry: ...everything else is my trade.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: I make money in printing.

Fritzy: That's right.

Harry: I'm not supposed to make money on money, ya know that's, that's not my business.

Fritzy: Ya know, see what you said? That's where they fool everybody.

Harry: Sure.

Fritzy: That's where they fool everybody.

Harry: What the f*** do they know? Hey, ya, they tell me, "You can double your money." I can make a million dollars if I...

Fritzy: A f***ing bum, a bum. Let's, let's put it this way: A bum makin' 30,000 a year is gonna tell you how to invest, how to make...

Harry: Isn't that...

Fritzy: ...a million dollars. Get the hell out of here. Go away.

Harry: And, and...

Fritzy: I could see a guy makin' a coupla million a year tryin' to help me out to make a 100,000 a year.

Harry: But, you know Fritzy, the funny thing, ya know, ya know what the funny thing is? This fuckin' guy was like the expert, the this, he handled the money. F***ing thing goes downhill, right? Man can't get a fuckin' job.

Fritzy: He ain't workin'?

Harry: Well, they had to get it for him.

Fritzy: They hadda get him a job.

Harry: You know, that was me, I would, I, fuck him, I'd give 'em s***. Hey, ya know, ya, ya, ya know how I am in something like this? Ya know, I hired my brother-in-law here three years ago.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: My wife's brother. Guy was old, 60 years old.

Fritzy: Right, right.

Harry: His trade is washed up. His business is out. He always made five, six hundred a week...

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: ...and now he makes nothing.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: So, ya know, ya know, what am I going to do, kill this guy?

Fritzy: Nah. So you put 'em somewhere, keep 'em alive. Right.

Harry: I bring him in for 500 a week and he knows nothing.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: Right? And then he, and he starts comin' in with, "Alright, I don't work overtime. I don't work when it snows."

Fritzy: You're kiddin'?

Harry: "I don't work when it rains." I say, "What the f***?" Now I didn't know about this, They were hiding it from me inside because they didn't want to upset me.

Fritzy: Yeah, huh?

Harry: Yeah. Alright. So, ya know, this went on and on and finally, one day, I said, "You know somethin'?" Ya know, I went back there and they said, "Well, this guy hadda do this because there's noboby in there to make plates." And I says, "Where's John?" That's my brother-in-law. "Oh," he says, "Well he goes home at five. He doesn't work overtime." I says, "Whattya talkin' about?" I says, "We're, we're in a fuckin' spot. You tell him you gotta stay." No, he won't stay. So I bring him in and he says, "Oh, yeah," he says, "those are the conditions you hired me under."

Fritzy: liar.

Harry: I says, "What the f*** are you talkin' about?" I says, I says, "You know, John," I says, "Ya know, you aren't workin', ya know..."

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: I says, "My, my wife, your sister, put pressure on me to hire you."

Fritzy: Put pressure on me.

Harry: Oh, Jesus Christ, we had some, we had some argument with that.

Fritzy: Eh.

Harry: "I bring you in here," I says, "I give you $500 a week to train you and then we're gonna give you a raise."

Fritzy: You better watch how you talk about your partner.

Harry: Wha, whattya mean?

Fritzy: What, what you just says, who put pressure on you. You better watch, who put, who, who ya talkin', ya know, he get rid of you and, uh, do the hirin' and firin' over there.

Harry: Oh, I wish he would do it.

Fritzy: He still with ya?

Harry: Hey, you know what I did?

Fritzy: What?

Harry: After he told me, "Nah," he says, "you agreed to that." I says, "John," I said, "I agreed to shit." I said, "If you ever, if you ever gave me those conditions," I said, "you, you never would have been here." So then, you know, he started to get, like, a little out of line. I said, "Hey, John," I says, "look, because you're family," I says, "you either change your ways..."

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: "...and you still got a job here."

Fritzy: Yeah, otherwise...

Harry: "If you don't change your ways, Friday's your last day."

Fritzy: That's all.

Harry: He wouldn't change his way.

Fritzy: You got rid of 'em?

Harry: How'd ya like? Yeah.

Fritzy: Sure.

Harry: F*** him. Whattya kiddin' me? I don't take that kind of shit.

Fritzy: In other words, his attitude was, "Ehh."

Harry: F*** him, I hope he's pumpin' gas somewhere, the coc*suck**.

Fritzy: Eh.

Harry: You know what I mean.

Fritzy: I know, I know, they don't, they don't understand.

Harry: He don't do this, he don't do that. Why, why don't you stay home, I'll mail you the check. What the f*** you...

Fritzy: They don't understand, they don't understand. Well, anyhow.

Harry: One of those things.

Fritzy: Alright.

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[A lousy investment leads fiscally conservative Fritzy and associate Harry Dickran to conclude that their money is better served in more legitimate rackets than the stock market. Also, Harry talks about having to can an ungrateful brother-in-law whom he pity-hired at his wife's urging.]

Fritzy: How'd the stocks do?

Harry: About the same. Ya know, there, there's no big, radical movement.

Fritzy: No, huh?

Harry: Nah.

Fritzy: I thought there was some big, major change.

Harry: I thought so, too, with those two articles...

Fritzy: Yeah, right.

Harry: I figured that at least those two would, like, start...

Fritzy: Well, ya know, lemme tell ya about these, they lay and wait, they don't jump on it right away. They wait. The money guys go out and investigate it. They wait, they look, they say, "You know what? It's true. Okay, let's start." Ya know?

Harry: But these articles should've helped. Those articles were good articles.

Fritzy: When did your stock first drop?

Harry: When?

Fritzy: Yeah, the very first time?

Harry: Oh, the day, I guess, the first day that they got all...

Fritzy: What was that in May? When the hell did they get hit?

Harry: Yeah, yeah about May, ya know, May 10th.

Fritzy: Alright, listen to me. You guys have to look to sell out around May 10th or before. Way before, maybe April.

Harry: Oh, yeah.

Fritzy: Ya know why?

Harry: If we knew.

Fritzy: No, 'cause they'll boost, no, I'm talkin' about this comin' up. They'll boost it now, boost it, and around, you'll be told, "Keep it, hold it, hold it..."

Harry: Nah, no more.

Fritzy: "...Keep it." Listen to me. April, we'll make a D-Day, we all go in...

Harry: You know what I did? You know what I had our accountant do?

Fritzy: Wha?

Harry: I had our accountant take a, take a, list of all the stocks, on all, everybody. Pensions, personal...

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: ...the whole thing. "What was the average price that we bought at?" 'Cause, ya know, some we bought at three...

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: ... some we bought at nine.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: Ya know, so we averaged it out, uh, "You bought it at six."

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: So I told him, "Now, the minute this goes, like six and a half, seven. Out."

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: Ya know, and then the next start. Soon as it comes to that, "Out."

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: Until we get our money back and that's it.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: Then, f*** it, we're out of it.

Fritzy: That's right.

Harry: And, uh, there's the last time you see me do that.

Fritzy: What a f***ing joke.

Harry: Then I put it into the bank, ya know, I get a nice eight percent, eight and a half percent.

Fritzy: That's right.

Harry: Guaranteed. I sleep.

Fritzy: That's right.

Harry: F*** this.

Fritzy: I had it layin' there. Nice. I had it layin' there. I go take it out, I go put it over here. I can't believe what the f*** I done.

Harry: You know something? My, my living, my living, like your living and...

Fritzy: Right.

Harry: ...everything else is my trade.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: I make money in printing.

Fritzy: That's right.

Harry: I'm not supposed to make money on money, ya know that's, that's not my business.

Fritzy: Ya know, see what you said? That's where they fool everybody.

Harry: Sure.

Fritzy: That's where they fool everybody.

Harry: What the f*** do they know? Hey, ya, they tell me, "You can double your money." I can make a million dollars if I...

Fritzy: A f***ing bum, a bum. Let's, let's put it this way: A bum makin' 30,000 a year is gonna tell you how to invest, how to make...

Harry: Isn't that...

Fritzy: ...a million dollars. Get the hell out of here. Go away.

Harry: And, and...

Fritzy: I could see a guy makin' a coupla million a year tryin' to help me out to make a 100,000 a year.

Harry: But, you know Fritzy, the funny thing, ya know, ya know what the funny thing is? This fuckin' guy was like the expert, the this, he handled the money. F***ing thing goes downhill, right? Man can't get a fuckin' job.

Fritzy: He ain't workin'?

Harry: Well, they had to get it for him.

Fritzy: They hadda get him a job.

Harry: You know, that was me, I would, I, fuck him, I'd give 'em s***. Hey, ya know, ya, ya, ya know how I am in something like this? Ya know, I hired my brother-in-law here three years ago.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: My wife's brother. Guy was old, 60 years old.

Fritzy: Right, right.

Harry: His trade is washed up. His business is out. He always made five, six hundred a week...

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: ...and now he makes nothing.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: So, ya know, ya know, what am I going to do, kill this guy?

Fritzy: Nah. So you put 'em somewhere, keep 'em alive. Right.

Harry: I bring him in for 500 a week and he knows nothing.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: Right? And then he, and he starts comin' in with, "Alright, I don't work overtime. I don't work when it snows."

Fritzy: You're kiddin'?

Harry: "I don't work when it rains." I say, "What the f***?" Now I didn't know about this, They were hiding it from me inside because they didn't want to upset me.

Fritzy: Yeah, huh?

Harry: Yeah. Alright. So, ya know, this went on and on and finally, one day, I said, "You know somethin'?" Ya know, I went back there and they said, "Well, this guy hadda do this because there's noboby in there to make plates." And I says, "Where's John?" That's my brother-in-law. "Oh," he says, "Well he goes home at five. He doesn't work overtime." I says, "Whattya talkin' about?" I says, "We're, we're in a fuckin' spot. You tell him you gotta stay." No, he won't stay. So I bring him in and he says, "Oh, yeah," he says, "those are the conditions you hired me under."

Fritzy: liar.

Harry: I says, "What the f*** are you talkin' about?" I says, I says, "You know, John," I says, "Ya know, you aren't workin', ya know..."

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: I says, "My, my wife, your sister, put pressure on me to hire you."

Fritzy: Put pressure on me.

Harry: Oh, Jesus Christ, we had some, we had some argument with that.

Fritzy: Eh.

Harry: "I bring you in here," I says, "I give you $500 a week to train you and then we're gonna give you a raise."

Fritzy: You better watch how you talk about your partner.

Harry: Wha, whattya mean?

Fritzy: What, what you just says, who put pressure on you. You better watch, who put, who, who ya talkin', ya know, he get rid of you and, uh, do the hirin' and firin' over there.

Harry: Oh, I wish he would do it.

Fritzy: He still with ya?

Harry: Hey, you know what I did?

Fritzy: What?

Harry: After he told me, "Nah," he says, "you agreed to that." I says, "John," I said, "I agreed to shit." I said, "If you ever, if you ever gave me those conditions," I said, "you, you never would have been here." So then, you know, he started to get, like, a little out of line. I said, "Hey, John," I says, "look, because you're family," I says, "you either change your ways..."

Fritzy: Yeah.

Harry: "...and you still got a job here."

Fritzy: Yeah, otherwise...

Harry: "If you don't change your ways, Friday's your last day."

Fritzy: That's all.

Harry: He wouldn't change his way.

Fritzy: You got rid of 'em?

Harry: How'd ya like? Yeah.

Fritzy: Sure.

Harry: F*** him. Whattya kiddin' me? I don't take that kind of shit.

Fritzy: In other words, his attitude was, "Ehh."

Harry: F*** him, I hope he's pumpin' gas somewhere, the coc*suck**.

Fritzy: Eh.

Harry: You know what I mean.

Fritzy: I know, I know, they don't, they don't understand.

Harry: He don't do this, he don't do that. Why, why don't you stay home, I'll mail you the check. What the f*** you...

Fritzy: They don't understand, they don't understand. Well, anyhow.

Harry: One of those things.

Fritzy: Alright.


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Sentence from an wiretapped convesation between Lucchese soldier Vincent "Vinny Baldy" Salanardi and other wiseguy about "the life":

"Everything that happens in this crew is not going to be my problem. I am not a boss. I am not a captain. It's not my problem in life. Everything becomes my problem. I ain't the only wiseguy in New York City."

Salanardi was made in 1998 under captain John "Johnny Sideburns" Cerrella's Brooklyn crew.



On Jan. 15, 2004, the wiretapped conversation between Carmelo Bruzzese and Vito Rizzuto about personal family affairs and an upcoming transaction involving an unspecified exchange.

“I have it here in Toronto . . . is everything ready, if someone from there comes here,” Bruzzese tells Rizzuto just before Bruzzese is scheduled to come to Ontario.

“There is no problem,” Rizzuto assures him.

But there was a problem.

Rizzuto was arrested five days later in his home in Montreal as part of an FBI-led sweep of the Bonanno crime family that would eventually see him sentenced to 10 years in U.S. prison for his role in a murder.

Within hours of Rizzuto’s detention, his top lieutenant, Francesco Arcadi, called Bruzzese, according to the wiretap transcripts.

“It’s really honestly bad news,” Bruzzese responds. “I hope that everything will be resolved shortly.”

sources: http://mafia.wikia.com/wiki/Vincent_Salanardi

http://metronews.ca/news/toronto/393148/...-man-in-canada/



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Wiretapped conversation between Corky Vastola,Sam Decavalcante and Joe Zicarelli about every day problems and combinations...

Corky:I also sad this Sam,if this turns out to be a score,we shoot an end back here.

Sam:Wait a min i want to talk about money first so theres no misunderstanding.What end do you feel Joe should get?

Corky:25 per cent for here.Because theres two guys and myself ova there.Thats three of us.To Joe:So youre the fourth guy.

Sam:Do you think that right?To forget me?

Corky:Forget you?Well thats what i told Mike,but yeah.Lets make it 5.Ill take 20 per cent.

Joe:Me too.

Sam:Alright Joe,youre satisfied with 20 per cent?

Joe:Yeah im satisfied.

Sam:Now,how about the dues there?Where do the dues come in now?

Joe:I use the dues for his books,stationery,and to set him all up.

Corky:What are the dues a mounth.

Joe:Well you can make yours 5$,but i only have four here.

Corky:And what is the initiation fee?Ah but im goin to waive the fee to set up the shop.

Joe:Right.Than you could charge 25$,50$ or 75$-whatever you want.Why not 10 not and anybody that comes in after 25?

Corky:Yeah.All right.

Sam:well how you gonna make a score if youre cheap?

Corky:Well im goin to make the score this way.When i sit down with the boss(management),I tell him how much its gonna cost him in welfare,hospitalization and all that.Say a plant with 250 people ,will cost hom 4000$ a mounth-just for hospitalization.So altogether I make a package out of it.Ill say"Its gonna cost 100.000$ a year.Lets cut it in half and forget about it."And walk away.I show him first what its gonna cost-than how much im gonna save him by walking away.

source: http://jfk.hood.edu/Collection/Weisberg%...9/Item%2001.pdf

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Can you post the link for this?


I will once I've done all of the conversations, It would seem pointless posting the link because then I wouldn't have to post it on here.

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[Frank's mother has died and Fritzy consoles his pal as only he can. First, he complains that his own mom is driving him crazy. He follows with the obligatory rant about the missus. Then the guys laugh about the kooky antics of Genovese boss Vincent "Chin" Gigante, who's been noshing with "The Bloomer" at the Carnegie Deli. Oh, and we don't know if those nuns still hustle the West Side piers]

Frank: Hello?

Fritzy: Mr. Frank.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: How are ya, Mr. Frank? How do you feel?

Frank: Huh?

Fritzy: How do you feel?

Frank: Alright.

Fritzy: I woke you up?

Frank: I was sleepin'.

Fritzy: Two o'clock in the afternoon.

Frank: I went to bed this mornin', 5:30.

Fritzy: The, the vampire had you out?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Marone a mi.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: Well, what time ya...

Frank: I'll sleep a couple of hours. Tired.

Fritzy: I'll hang up, I won't bother you.

Frank: How you doin'?

Fritzy: I figured I'd call ya up, see how you're feeling, you know, ya, ya, you know, I didn't talk to you since, uh, I last saw ya, you know?

Frank: How do you feel?

Fritzy: I'm alright, my mother, you know, she's, ah, f***ing headaches.

Frank: What's the matter?

Fritzy: Ah, she's up and down. She's, you know, if I, if I leave her alone she's very confused, ya know? She talks, but when she comes to doin' things, she's very confused. She gets mis, dis, you know, disoriented so I, you gotta put her back on the track. So somebody's gotta be there. I'm f***ing goin' crazy. Back, forth, back, forth, forth, back.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: But, uh, how you feel?

Frank: Alright, Freddie.

Fritzy: Alright, I don't, you know, just felt bad for ya, you know what I mean?

Frank: Whattya gonna do?

Fritzy: I know, I know. Whattya gonna do? Eh, now, now all little memories start racing through your head.

Frank: It's all over now.

Fritzy: I know.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: I know. ya know?

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: They say, "They broke the chain." Boom. You know that?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: The chain, that's how the f***in' chain breaks.

Frank: Everybody alright?

Fritzy: My, eh, you know, my wife, eh. Ah, healthwise, they're fine.

Frank: She botherin' ya?

Fritzy: Oh yeah. Forget about it, Frankie.

Frank: She still the same?

Fritzy: Forget about it. She talks to me, "Are you and Gail, Gail and you...", like we're, like we're a couple. I mean, you know, I mean, like you wanna knock her in the f***ing head when she talks, you know? "Well you and Gail and...Gail and you." Imagine this? Imagine this f***ing woman.

Frank: Marone, huh?

Fritzy: Imagine this? I mean, instead of sayin', you know, "That other one," or something like that, "that f***ing c*n*," or this or whatever. "Gail and you. You and Gail." Like whatta, whatta we a pair I told her or somethin'? Alright?

Fritzy: Alright? She f***ing knows how to gnaw at you.

Frank: You still cookin'?

Fritzy: No, I quit.

Frank: You gave it up?

Fritzy: Yep. I f***ing quit.

Frank: You were makin' 'em too strong.

Fritzy: Ah, fuck it. She's gotta come in, she's, oh, what f***ing problems I had. I had a rib roast upstairs, right?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: So I turn around, I figured she's gonna make it.

Frank: Uh-huh.

Fritzy: And, you know, with all of us. She turns a, hey, Buddy's comin' in here. He's bringin' me some stuff. Bring it in. See what he's got. And, uh, she goes, I says, "Why'd ya make the rib, the rib roast? Geez, I, you know, I woulda liked to, you know, why didn't tell me you were gonna make it." "Oh yeah, well I gotta tell you when I wanna eat?" Da this and that, whatnot, "Uh, the other one, how many ribs did you give her with the rib roast with the roast? Now you're gonna go bim, buh-bum, buh-bum." Imagine this? The roast. With two f***ing words I said. Wait, the door's open. Wait, I gotta open up the door, just a minute...Hello?

Frank: Yeah, Freddie.

Fritzy: Alright, eh, go back to bed. I don't wanna, alright? Go back to sleep, pal.

Frank: No, that's alright.

Fritzy: I woke you up. I didn't know, I figured two o'clock you're up.

Frank: Helen was here.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: She just left.

Fritzy: And?

Frank: She wanted me to get up. I says, "Get out. Leave me alone, huh."

Fritzy: No kiddin'? So in other words, she bothered you too.

Frank: She came...

Fritzy: Ah, it looks like everybody's botherin' you, Cal.

Frank: Nah, that's alright.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: The nun called me up.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: She was on her way to the, for the funeral.

Fritzy: Yeah.

Frank: She got stuck in traffic 'til 12 o'clock.

Fritzy: Whattya mean?

Frank: Comin' here, she got stuck.

Fritzy: Oh yeah?

Frank: Yeah. She says, I says, "Where are you at now?"

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: She says, "I'm on Pier 36."

Fritzy: What the hell's she doin' there?

Frank: Hustlin'.

Fritzy: Oh yeah? She goes with the can?

Frank: She goes there, they take her with the car and they hustle.

Fritzy: Oh yeah? Her and the other one, huh?

Frank: They beg. That's their order.

Fritzy: Oh, yeah?

Frank: That's how I met her, from the piers.

Fritzy: Oh. And they wind up with a, a, a C-note apiece, they made.

Frank: Oh, you shoulda heard 'em.

Fritzy: Wha?

Frank: She wants, uh, your name and address. I says, "No, send it to me, don't worry about it."

Fritzy: Marone, she wants a, 'cause she figures she's got a live wire here.

Frank: Nah, she's gonna send you something.

Fritzy: Yeah? Ah, well that was for your mother. I, I really, I...

Frank: You know how she is.

Fritzy: You know. They used to go see your mother?

Frank: Go see her? Forget about it.

Fritzy: Huh?

Frank: Forget about it. She used to feed her, everything.

Fritzy: See, that's why I did that, you know, I knew that, uh, they were a good help to her 'cause you used to tell me, you know what I mean? You told me...

Frank: Money every time.

Fritzy: Yeah, that's good. That's alright. Yeah. The Jaw gave her a C-note too, you know?

Frank: We send her to Italy.

Fritzy: What?

Frank: We send her to Italy.

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: My brother and I.

Fritzy: Yeah, but The Jaw, The Jaw gave her a C-note.

Frank: Yeah, I know.

Fritzy: Yeah, he, he, ah, he parted.

Fritzy: Alright. Give everybody a kiss.

Frank: Love is in the air.

Fritzy: Yeah? Let me ask you something. The Bloomer is back? I thought The Bloomer went away?

Frank: She's back.

Fritzy: Oh, mamma mi. He's got, he must, that must be must be the 5 o'clock in the mornin' appointment.

Frank: Picks her up at 3 o'clock in the mornin'.

Fritzy: Mamma mi.

Frank: Then we went to the Carnegie.

Fritzy: Marone.

Frank: He ate a turkey sandwich.

Fritzy: Marone. Well, he's loosenin' up. He's loosening up anyhow. Ah, he looks happy, but. He looks happy. I dunno, maybe it's doing him some good. Huh?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: Am I right?

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: I'll tell ya, ya know, he needed that little change maybe. So don't pick on me when I fool around.

Frank: Huh?

Frank: He wanted to walk, he hadda walk on Broadway...

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: Heart trails, you know?

Fritzy: Yeah?

Frank: He thinks the sun was shining.

Fritzy: Yeah? Eh, look, too bad you're out so late but, that's the only thing.

Frank: Ah, this is Dracula.

Fritzy: I know, I know. It's no doubt. You know why? He feels safer, you, ya gotta understand. There's peace and quiet at that hour. I think that means a lot to him.

Frank: Yeah.

Fritzy: You know what I mean? I understand. I know what he, I, I know what he...

Frank: There's nobody to spy...

Fritzy: That's what I mean. He feels, uh, free. He's free at that hour.

Frank: Yeah. He's got the cape, you gotta get him the cape with the hat and everything.

Fritzy: Yeah, I know.

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Damn man!you got whole lists of transcripts from these guys!Was it youre wire?!?Did you tapped thouse phones?!?!? tongue grin


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Haha! Only 45 wiretaps, I think i've told about 4 or 5.

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figured id share the site where those transcripts are in in case people were interested, King I am not intending to derail the thread.


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
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Thank you for sharing the site, very interesting.

Originally Posted By: King


[Jimmy Fratiano with an unknown organized member named Chuck]

Chuck: Yeah Jimmy?

Jimmy: Yeah Chuck?

Chuck: Yeah, I been tied up all weekend.

Jimmy: Chuck, I'm gonna tell you something. You have that $200 in my f***ing hands by tomorrow. If you ain't got the $200 in my f***ing hands tomorrow, you understand me?

Chuck: Mmmmm..

Jimmy: You better stay there because I tell you. You've reached the end of the line with me my friend. You have one more time, no more bull***t. By tomorrow night at 6 O'clock. You have that $200 in this joint. Believe me kid, If I don't see it by 6 O'clock you don't owe nobody nothing. You understand? You have it by 6 O'clock by tomorrow night. By god I promise you, Believe me I promise you. I'll break every f***ing bone in your body before I go to jail. Every f***ing bone in your body! I swear on my kids. You understand?

Chuck: Yeah, I do.

Jimmy: Alright, good.

^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnvbfeEyC...ture=plpp_video ^


I'm not sure if that's Fratianno, doesen't sound like him.

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The crew had their own unique ways of dealing with dead-beat gamblers. The funeral home tactic was just one method. In the case of Steve Hospodar, a diminutive, 65-year-old gambler who fell seriously behind in his payments, Solly DeLaurentis and his partner and fellow underboss, Lou Marino of Palos Heights, decided to really put the fear of God into him.

What follows is a portion of a tape-recorded conversation at a south suburban restaurant between Lou Marino and the indebted Hospodar concerning the monies due the outfit. One can readily see that Marino is not a Shakespearean scholar – but is a man that can emphatically make his point. The transcript of the following conversation was introduced into evidence at the Infelise racketeering and extortion trial in a federal court.

Marino: You will find some fuckin' money.

Hospodar: I'm gonna try. I…

Marino: You will find some fuckin' money…

Hospodar: Like I say, I'm gonna try.

Marino: You motherfucker.

Hospodar: I'm gonna try.

Marino: You will find money.

Hospodar: Well, we'll see what happens. I, I'll make every…

Marino: Hey, I ain't seein'…

Hospodar: Every effort…

Marino: what happens!

Hospodar: I'll make every effort!

Marino: I ain't seein' what happens, you make a date you motherfucker, you cannot fulfill, you can't live with it. You will fuckin' get me money today.

Hospodar: All right.

Marino: I give a fuck where you get it.

Hospodar: All right.

Marino: You get me money. Go steal the motherfucker!

Hospodar: I'll have to.

Marino: You, I don't give a fuck! If I was in that spot that's what the fuck I'd be doin'! You just go fuck and do it, Steve, the, the game's over, Steve. I'll tell ya'.

Hospodar: All right.

Marino: Right now.

Hospodar: All right.

Marino: You'll fuckin' be here tonight. Here what I'm tellin' you, Steve?

Hospodar: Okay.

Marino: You fuckin' be here. What time?

Hospodar: You said between six, six-thirty.

Marino: All right. I wanna make it a right fuckin' time. I don't be…

Hospodar: All right.

Marino: fuckin' sitting in this joint.

According to the testimony given by a 38-year-old government informant, one Sam Joseph Malatia, at the racketeering trial, DeLaurentis then led Hospodar into the men's room and "messed him up a little." Solly "D" was suspicious that Hospodar was wearing a wire. He was, as it turned out, but they didn't find it. "When he came out, his (Steve's) wig was wet. Sol had thrown the wig into the toilet and put it back on his head." Lou Marino and Solly "D" were good at their jobs and so was the entire street crew, as we shall see.

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This is a angry outburst by now jailed mobster Solly DeLaurentis in a telephone conversation with gambler-turned- government informer William "B.J." Jahoda:
"Don't refer to me as the boss or f---ing you're in
charge, you're the chief. Don't tell me that!"
DeLaurentis did not want Jahoda referring to him as a "boss" on a unsecured telephone line that could be -- and was -- tapped by the FBI.


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Dapper Don - That was very pointless on sharing that when I was going to at the end, no point on me posting all of them on here when they are on another website.

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Originally Posted By: Joe_Bonanno
Thank you for sharing the site, very interesting.

Originally Posted By: King


[Jimmy Fratiano with an unknown organized member named Chuck]

Chuck: Yeah Jimmy?

Jimmy: Yeah Chuck?

Chuck: Yeah, I been tied up all weekend.

Jimmy: Chuck, I'm gonna tell you something. You have that $200 in my f***ing hands by tomorrow. If you ain't got the $200 in my f***ing hands tomorrow, you understand me?

Chuck: Mmmmm..

Jimmy: You better stay there because I tell you. You've reached the end of the line with me my friend. You have one more time, no more bull***t. By tomorrow night at 6 O'clock. You have that $200 in this joint. Believe me kid, If I don't see it by 6 O'clock you don't owe nobody nothing. You understand? You have it by 6 O'clock by tomorrow night. By god I promise you, Believe me I promise you. I'll break every f***ing bone in your body before I go to jail. Every f***ing bone in your body! I swear on my kids. You understand?

Chuck: Yeah, I do.

Jimmy: Alright, good.

^ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnvbfeEyC...ture=plpp_video ^


I'm not sure if that's Fratianno, doesen't sound like him.


It is Fratianno.

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Dapper Don - That was very pointless on sharing that when I was going to at the end, no point on me posting all of them on here when they are on another website.


It saves us from waiting for you to post them all. Thanks for the link

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If you didn't notice CAM. I'm at war with Toodoped and I need wiretaps!

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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
EASTERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK
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UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Plaintiff,
- againstANTHONY ROMANELLO,
also known as "Rom,"
Defendant.
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GLASSER, United States District Judge:
1'".

The intercepted conversations of Cafaro which are sought to be introduced in
evidence are set out in full:
The March 22, 2000 conversation:
Thomas Cafaro = Cafaro; Michael D'Urso = CW


CW: Let's just hope your friend don't leave, gonna be there.
CAFARO: Me, I believe, it's his if he wants it. And that's how 1-
CW: He might not want it. But then again you know what, he's not gonna
turn away because he ain't gonna subject himself to have listen to
all of these fuckin' idiots - after what he knows what's right and
wrong.
CAFARO: Well - then he may leave somebody there and talk to them.
CW: Right.
CAFARO: Like everybody else did.
CW: He can't leave his guys.
CAFARO: No.
CW: We'd all be running for the hills. [Pause]. See I didn't think there
was any of that.
CAFARO: I can't believe they didn't make, when he had his, when he
, It should be noted that the indictment in this RA alleges that the parties agreed,
rather than conspired to extort John Doe #2.
2 went in for the surgery and when he had the heat, I'm
surprised they didn't pull him out then.
cw: Who's gonna pull him out? Who's gonna pull him?
CAFARO: [U/I]
CW: You gotta be around to actually do something like that, I mean? You
know what's gonna happen?
CAFARO: How'd they put him in?
CW: What? You don't think your friend put him there?
CAFARO: Well, so they send him word. [U/I] put somebody else, who
do you want?
CW: Yeah who do you want? Who's gonna take it? Who's gonna take it?
CAFARO: Somebody will do him a favor if they ask him.
cw: Chuck don't want it.
CAFARO: If the other guy asked him.
CW: You know fuckin' Dom don't want it.
CAFARO: No - but I said, uh.
cw: Ernie will take it.
CAFARO: Yeah. What do you call it?
CW: He wouldn't be bad there.
CAFARO: NoCW: from what I hear about him.
CAFARO: You know who would have been good too, but he don't want
it? Is Tony from Corona.
cw: Oh, he don't want it either?
CAFARO: Nah. He has a ton of money.
3 CW: Uh, forget it. [U II] close with Mickey all these years. They use
excuses. I gotta take care of Mickey, I gotta do this.
CAFARO: He would have been good.
CW: You know him good?
CAFARO: Yeah.
cw: He's respected.
CAFARO: Patty knows him well.
CW: He's acting right now?
CAFARO: Him? No. He walked. He gave everything up.
cw: He's still a skipper, huh?
CAFARO: He gave, he gave that up.
CW: Who the fuck do they?
CAFARO: They got his guy out there. Tommy Z's cousin stays with him.
CW: Rom?
CAFARO: Yeah.
cw: They put Rom there?
CAFARO: Yeah.
cw: Corne on?
CAFARO: That's what I heard.
cw: He finished [UjI]
CAFARO: Yeah.
cw: [UjI]
CAFARO: Well, yeah, exactly. But still, you know.
4 CW: Listen, everybody uses scapegoats, let's be realistic. But I don't
agree with that, I gotta tell you the truth. I mean it works, but I
don't agree with it.
CAFARO: Let me tell you something. He gave up all of his business. He
gave up his bookmaking, shylocking, everything. He gave it to Rom.
He gave it to him.
CW: Really?
CAFARO: He's so wealthy, real estate wise. He's got buildings; he's got
property; he's got the restaurant. What the fuck does he need? And
he's smart.
cw: You can't forget how you got it.
CAFARO: Well, I'm sure he does what he has to do for the old timers.
CW: Well, take a guy like that. Don't they take that as an insult that he
doesn't want it? If you're needed, you're needed.
CAFARO: You don't know how he told him. We don't know what he
told him. He may have had a legitimate you know?
CW: Sometimes you've gotta help this thing. Not everyone can run away
from it. You gonna run away from it then hang your thing up and
take it on the hop.
CAFARO: What I'm saying is, he may have said, I've got to do certain
things, you know?
CAFARO: You wanna know something?
CW: [U/I] everything
CAFARO: Smart guys, you don't want them taking that position
because eventually they get, they go and what are you gonna have?
You see what's happening in all the other crews. They got amateurs.
CW: Yup. People gotta stay behind the scenes a little bit.
CAFARO: Oh, without a doubt. That's why all those years, nobody knew
who Ben was. See, nobody knew who he was.
CW: No, huh.
5 CAFARO: Nobody.
CW: See Joe, Joe never wanted it.
CAFARO: Yeah?
CW: He said, I've got everyone's ear, what do I need it for?
CAFARO: Well, that's the same thing I'm saying. What do I need
anything for? I just hang out with our friends.
CAFARO: Our friend, he's gonna look out for me.
CW: No doubt about it.
* * *
The June 14, 2000 conversation:
Thomas Cafaro = Cafaro; Michael D'Urso = CW
CAFARO: I used to laugh because there's a guy Joe CIA) construction.
He was very close to CUI). He used to tell him look you got this
business, let's put Tommy there. CUI) he used to tell him, no,
Tommy's alright he's got enough. I used to tell him, Pal, Something
I know I'm doing, you know, that maybe I forgot?
CW: Then what'd he say?
CAFARO: No, nothing. He said, "Don't worry about it." And that was it.
You know, then he got pinched. The kid Nicky, that young kid. Ton
of fucking money. Me and the Old Timer, that I was with that night,
we shake our heads. We can't believe. He says all these pieces of
shit, CUI) this guy the money.
CW: It's not good. People start saying, what the fuck, did they need it
for?
CAFARO: Well, now hopefully, you know, when he comes homes we'll
get a couple of things going. Who knows?
CW: Does the old timer [ChuckyTuzzo] down there see him? Does he go
see him at all?
CAFARO: No he can't, he can't go see him. He would love to. Think
that's why. I vote for him.
6 CW: Whose he answer to? Does he go see Tony too?
CAFARO: No, they see him.
CW: They see him?
CAFARO: No. They go see him, you know. He could have been there.
He turned it down.
CW: He don't look like he, he wanted it anyway.
CAFARO: They wanted him for a while. They've been on... He
used to be around Tony all the time, he's on a lot of tapes with Tony.
cw: He's no flashy guy either.
CAFARO: He used to be some fucking, you know-dapper
CW: Oh
CAFARO: He used to be, remember the old man Mickey, Generoso,
Mickey Dimino?
CW: No.
CAFARO: That was the meeting with him. They used to come every day.
I used to tell them, you look like the Bobsey twins.
CW: He's got cancer too.
CAFARO: You know, he stays behind the scenes. You know, tries to
help him out. He was coaching him for a while, you know. If he
would have listened, if Farby would have listened to him, he would
never had a problem.
CW: With what?
CAFARO: When he was going on meets and stuff, they were gonna set
it up. We'll bring you. My guys will bring you. Three, four cars. One
guy picked him up, bring him to another spot. You know, that's how
that guy is. When you go to a meeting, you know, you gotta 7:00
appointment. They start out three in the afternoon.
CW: Whose this?
7 CAFARO: The old timer.
CW: Yeah.
CAFARO: Start out three in the afternoon. One guy picks him up, brings him
here. He stays there. Then another guy takes him here. By the time he get's
over there, he went from here to here to here to here to there. By then, they
got to know if somebody's - you know. That's how he is. I never call him.
We never talk to each other on the phone. I left him that night. He knows
the next month I'll see him this date, at this time. If I'm not there,
something's wrong.
CW: Well what if you got an emergency?
CAFARO: If I got one? Well, I call somebody. CUI) He's got no more
beeper.
CW: Got a phone?
CAFARO:
him.
He's a hundred percent for our friend. A million percent for
[PAUSE]
CW: He's just a skipper right? He used to be a skipper right?
CAFARO: He's got a good .... They've got a good bunch of guys. They've
got a solid ...
CW: Who?
CAFARO: The old timer. He's got Tough Tony Corona.
CW: He's got em?
CAFARO: Rom
CAFARO: Yeah. They, you know. They're all with him. They've got Rom.
They got Tough Tony, they got this kid Mikey the Blonde.
CW: Good guys?
CAFARO: Oh yea, They're smart. CUI)
CAFARO: I know Rom like that.
8 cw: Rom's alright.
CAFARO: I know him like that. I met him twice.
CW: He's at the fucking track everyday ..
CAFARO: Tony came home from prison, wanted nothing to do with
it anymore. He gave everything away. CUI) Property.
CW: Who does?
CAFARO: Tony
CW: Rom, Rom. He's a friendly guy, you know. He's just, he's not as polished as Tony is.
CAFARO: No. No, Can't compare them. Night and day, night and day.
CAFARO: See Tommy Z. You met Tommy Z, right? Tommy LaRusso's
cousin.
CW: Right
CAFARO: That's how I met Tommy Z. I met him down at the EI
Dorado.
CW: Does Rom know Patty?
CAFARO: Patty used to go out there when my father was around. My
father was close to him. Every Friday night, he used to go out.
CW: They must have just straightened Rom out the last ....
CAFARO: No, for years.
CW: Tony needed that.
CAFARO: He could have had it.
CW: You can't fucking ...
CAFARO: He could have had it. He didn't want it.
CAFARO: He turned it down.
CW: Know what's gonna happen, pretty soon, they're gonna start telling
9 people you have to take it. Or otherwise ...
CAFARO: Usually no one refuses it. Smart people refuse,
CW: You know what I mean?
CAFARO: Tony. They get along good. He does a lot for him.
Helps him with his case. Helping him out.
CW: Tony's got a lot of CUI) .
CAFARO: He loves that restaurant - I mean he really works there.
cw: OhYeah.
CAFARO: He fucking walks around. We were in there one night. He
walked by the table. I mean, You know, he came to sit with us later
on. Every fucking waiter, he kicked them in the leg because there
was a chair backed up against the wall, and it was scratching the
thing. He buys a certain kind of meat, it's gotta be cut a certain way.

http://ia600808.us.archive.org/19/items/gov.uscourts.nyed.311902/gov.uscourts.nyed.311902.71.0.pdf

this was posted by sharpieone on the other side


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Re: Wiretaps From The Old Days [Re: Dapper_Don] #683166
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It´s a good read...if you know what the hell they are talking about! One would really need to have the whole picture before understanding these wire taps transcripts. I guess they can be interpreted in all kinds of ways which is why the government gladly uses these in front of a jury. This transcript, the one posted, is not intellectually stimulating. But I assume the two men are talking about guys who doesen´t want the top job. The converasation eventually touches upon Tony Federici who also didn´t want the job and apparently gave up his operations to Tony Rom.

"CAFARO: Let me tell you something. He gave up all of his business. He gave up his bookmaking, shylocking, everything. He gave it to Rom. He gave it to him.
CW: Really?
CAFARO: He's so wealthy, real estate wise. He's got buildings; he's got property; he's got the restaurant. What the fuck does he need? And he's smart."

"CAFARO: Smart guys, you don't want them taking that position
because eventually they get, they go and what are you gonna have?
You see what's happening in all the other crews. They got amateurs.
CW: Yup. People gotta stay behind the scenes a little bit.
CAFARO: Oh, without a doubt. That's why all those years, nobody knew who Ben was. See, nobody knew who he was.
CW: No, huh.
CAFARO: Nobody."

- This "Ben", has to be a reference to Philip Lombardo who was nicknamed "Benny Squint; Benny Turpin", the Genovese leader back in the 1970s who totally flew under the feds´ radar.


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