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Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: pizzaboy] #678032
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: sitonmyface11
the only guy who has anything to worry about is the big guy out near you,pizzaboy.

Barney?

Four reasons.

1) He's young by comparison.

2) He was close to Vince Gigante

3) The Feds never wanted to give him that deal in '96. They were hoping he'd take it to trial and get beat. Even with the twelve years that he was inside, they knew he'd come out in the prime of his life.

4) The Feds redux. They're still smarting over giving him a year for fucking mail fraud when they thought they had him dead to rights on a murder rap. A murder rap that he was innocent of, by the way. The star witness there, Pete Peluso, is as big a lowlife as God ever made. What did that piece of shit accomplish besides getting a 75 year old barber indicted and scaring him half to death?

And just for the record, Barney would have eaten his own arm before turning on Ralphie. They were that close.


absolutely right. his every free breath insults the fbi. i have heard similar things about him and ralphie always being together. i had a friend who did his business around zerega avenue where they held court. he better hope no one around him turns 'bad', hes got a lot of 'baggage'.

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Originally Posted By: sitonmyface11
absolutely right. his every free breath insults the fbi. i have heard similar things about him and ralphie always being together. i had a friend who did his business around zerega avenue where they held court. he better hope no one around him turns 'bad', hes got a lot of 'baggage'.

There was a bar on the corner of Zerega and Westchester Avenue called "The Shack." It was a dump but it was there forever. Come to think of it, the place has probably been closed for close to twenty years (Christ, I'm getting old).

Anyway, Ralphie was in that place all day long. Angelo Prisco owned half the block. Literally. Those were the f'n days. But no more. No offense, but today if you don't speak Spanish, you can't even order lunch on Zerega whistle.

(That's for my buddy, Dapper. He's a great Dominican Bronx kid, and one of our best posters smile ).


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Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: pizzaboy] #678055
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I haven't read Underboss in years, but i'm pretty sure he admits to more than one trigger job....BTW, the chapter about being "made" is great...IMHO


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Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: ace123] #678066
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I know for a fact he killed more than one.


How could you say that? You dont kno for a fact, you THINK you know.


Okay then. Sammy was involved in crime at a young age. You seriously think Gotti NEVER asked him to commit a murder? We're talking about a senior member. Then all he did was make money and I'm sure if he was that trusted he did more than make money. I'm pretty sure some people in his way that he wouldn't let them go.

Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: pizzaboy] #678067
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: sitonmyface11
absolutely right. his every free breath insults the fbi. i have heard similar things about him and ralphie always being together. i had a friend who did his business around zerega avenue where they held court. he better hope no one around him turns 'bad', hes got a lot of 'baggage'.

There was a bar on the corner of Zerega and Westchester Avenue called "The Shack." It was a dump but it was there forever. Come to think of it, the place has probably been closed for close to twenty years (Christ, I'm getting old).

Anyway, Ralphie was in that place all day long. Angelo Prisco owned half the block. Literally. Those were the f'n days. But no more. No offense, but today if you don't speak Spanish, you can't even order lunch on Zerega whistle.

(That's for my buddy, Dapper. He's a great Dominican Bronx kid, and one of our best posters smile ).

Its true pizzaboy i live in Yonkers and a lot of the italians have moved out which sucks. I remember when i was an altar boy years ago on Midland Avenue and a wiseguy gave my friend and I $100 each for a funeral we served in

Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: JCrusher] #678108
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Originally Posted By: JCrusher
Its true pizzaboy i live in Yonkers and a lot of the italians have moved out which sucks. I remember when i was an altar boy years ago on Midland Avenue and a wiseguy gave my friend and I $100 each for a funeral we served in

There used to be tons of Italians in Yonkers, buddy. From Midland to Lockwood to Park Hill to all along the Cross County corridor. I had a ton of family up that way myself. But like you said, they've mostly moved to the northern suburbs. I have cousins who moved all the way up to Putnam County.

A lot of people call that assimilation and I don't argue with that. I think assimilation is a good thing. But you also have to factor in what they call "white flight." Italians are the kings of that. When neighborhood demographics start to change, the Italian Americans who can afford it tend to take off.

Compare that to the Irish, who are too stubborn to leave their neighborhoods (and I mean that with both respect and awe). Woodlawn is virtually unchanged all these years. Sometimes I'll take a ride up to Katonah Avenue because I have an old high school friend who owns a bar up there. That neighborhood hasn't changed in 40 years. Good for them.

And unless you're new or living on another planet, everyone here knows that I'm Italian on both sides. Been to Italy a dozen times. Proud as can be. But I'm just posting the truth. When the neighborhoods start to change, the Italians are the first ones out the door.


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Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: Joe_Bonanno] #678126
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sucks neighborhoods change...
the irish left hells kitchen though

Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: NickyEyes1] #678144
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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
sucks neighborhoods change...
the irish left hells kitchen though

They were priced out of Hell's Kitchen, Nicky. Big difference.

The Irish tend to have big families. A three bedroom in the West 50s will run you $5,000 a month minimum today. What working class family is gonna pay that?

If not for the rents, they'd still be there.


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Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: Imamobguy] #678174
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@imamobguy: Doesn't mean he had to personally pull the trigger more than once! Come on, man. We can agree to disagree, but don't make what you THINK to be FACTS. Those are two different things entirely.

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Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: pizzaboy] #678203
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: sitonmyface11
absolutely right. his every free breath insults the fbi. i have heard similar things about him and ralphie always being together. i had a friend who did his business around zerega avenue where they held court. he better hope no one around him turns 'bad', hes got a lot of 'baggage'.

There was a bar on the corner of Zerega and Westchester Avenue called "The Shack." It was a dump but it was there forever. Come to think of it, the place has probably been closed for close to twenty years (Christ, I'm getting old).

Anyway, Ralphie was in that place all day long. Angelo Prisco owned half the block. Literally. Those were the f'n days. But no more. No offense, but today if you don't speak Spanish, you can't even order lunch on Zerega whistle.

(That's for my buddy, Dapper. He's a great Dominican Bronx kid, and one of our best posters smile ).


Jesus, I havent been up to Zerega ave in ages.


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Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: Joe_Bonanno] #678213
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in underboss he claims he pulled the trigger more than once, he even claims he chased a guy down and shot him while he was wearing a cast and cruthches

Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: Wilson101] #678708
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Originally Posted By: VegasMikey
in underboss he claims he pulled the trigger more than once, he even claims he chased a guy down and shot him while he was wearing a cast and cruthches


clap - Didn't quite understand what you meant but I kinda know what you mean. Because we have no report of who Sammy killed doesn't mean that it isn't true. People are still buried and no-one will know anything about it apart from Gravano. Him only killing one person? Come on....

Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: Joe_Bonanno] #678904
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imamobguy, what i ment is that in his book, "underboss" he claims his first murder was his friend in the car, and if im not mistaken he also chased some kid down on shot him while he (gravano) was still wearing a cast and crutches. I remember this because in the book he says he told big paul what he did and paul looked at him like he was insane.

Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: pizzaboy] #678905
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
A three bedroom in the West 50s will run you $5,000 a month minimum today. What working class family is gonna pay that?


I understand this is gradually happening to Brooklyn now.

Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: Joe_Bonanno] #678940
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You guys are forgetting Johnny"keys" Simone of Philadelphia. Gravano pulled the trigger on that one. He was kidnapped at a golf course and shot in the woods with his shoes off apparently so Simone's wife would know why he was killed. I believe this is in "Underboss" also. I know it was written in other books also

Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: Philly_Broadway] #678956
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Originally Posted By: Philly_Broadway
You guys are forgetting Johnny"keys" Simone of Philadelphia. Gravano pulled the trigger on that one. He was kidnapped at a golf course and shot in the woods with his shoes off apparently so Simone's wife would know why he was killed. I believe this is in "Underboss" also. I know it was written in other books also

Gravano didnt pull the trigger but he was present. Louie Milito pulled teh trigger. Gravano said he respected simone because he took his death like a man and he requested to die with his shoes off

Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: JCrusher] #678958
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Keys requested that a made guy pull the trigger, milito had just gotten his button and thus he did the dirty deed.


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Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Keys requested that a made guy pull the trigger, milito had just gotten his button and thus he did the dirty deed.

Yup thats what i said

Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: JCrusher] #679008
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milito pulled a lot of triggers in his day.lol. kind of funny if you met him in person. same goes for sammy. without the reputation or the stripes, hes just some short guy who dresses nice.

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I remember when they found wild bill's body, cutolo jr said in an interview alot of the old timers would be pissed off cause you were suppose to take the shoes off a murder victim particularly a made guy and a high ranking one like cutolo.


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Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

4) The Feds redux. They're still smarting over giving him a year for fucking mail fraud when they thought they had him dead to rights on a murder rap. A murder rap that he was innocent of, by the way. The star witness there, Pete Peluso, is as big a lowlife as God ever made. What did that piece of shit accomplish besides getting a 75 year old barber indicted and scaring him half to death?

A question: who do you think ordered the murder (are you talking about the Coppola one?) if Bellomo was innocent? Just interested.


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1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: Sammy Gravano pulled the trigger only once? [Re: Dwalin2011] #679405
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Originally Posted By: Dwalin2011
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

4) The Feds redux. They're still smarting over giving him a year for fucking mail fraud when they thought they had him dead to rights on a murder rap. A murder rap that he was innocent of, by the way. The star witness there, Pete Peluso, is as big a lowlife as God ever made. What did that piece of shit accomplish besides getting a 75 year old barber indicted and scaring him half to death?

A question: who do you think ordered the murder (are you talking about the Coppola one?) if Bellomo was innocent? Just interested.

Who says Coppola's really dead? shhh whistle



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the scene in the godfather when michael goes to kay re politicians and gangsters - "who's being naive now?" is what springs to mind at this statement lol. sammy was a cold ruthless killer!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkYjRrmoXBs

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he might have been trying to say ONCE TO MANY!!! lol

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hahaaha defo!

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