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mafia in baltimore #675722
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Does anybody have any info about baltimore im from there and it seems like it would be perfect for a small fam.there's a little italy and its right by the harbor/bay.I've read about the gambinos having a crew there and that philly may have been active to but idk.my grandmother used to kno some guys that said they were connected.sumthn de commas and a guy names al the Pollock that was kinda his bodyguard I guess .I know therrs m.c there hells angels and pagans but what about the mob? Id love any info

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Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: tommykarate] #675742
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Independent Zip Factions currently operate in Baltimore.


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Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #675746
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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Independent Zip Factions currently operate in Baltimore.

The Crab Cake crew.


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Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: tommykarate] #675747
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lol I just made that up


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Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #675748
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Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: tommykarate] #675752
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C3 Crab Cake Crew ain't nuttin' to F' with...Just like the Wu-Tang Crew


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Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: tommykarate] #675753
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What about "The Van Buren Boys"? Don't they have a faction operating in "The Charm City"? wink

Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: tommykarate] #675760
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Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: tommykarate] #675812
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Baltimores run by the heroin trade and the drug gangs.

Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: tommykarate] #675854
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I know that heroin is huge there and so are gangs but new York has gangs to.I mean it jus seems like it'd b a good place to have sumthn going sum1had to have crews there rite


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Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: tommykarate] #675860
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Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: tommykarate] #675862
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Originally Posted By: tommykarate
I know that heroin is huge there and so are gangs but new York has gangs to.I mean it just seems like it'd b a good place to have sumthn going sum1had to have crews there rite


It's funny you say that Pittsburgh and Baltimore I think are the two worse cities for that as far as users. Camden has the most potent dope in the nation, the size of a 10 bag of dope in Camden is probably about 3 times the size of a bag you'd buy in Philly.


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Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: tommykarate] #675887
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Baltimore's criminal activity mostly run by independent African-American crews.
The funny thing is that since The Wire there seems to be some kind of urban legend that Greeks run things in Baltimore lol

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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Originally Posted By: tommykarate
I know that heroin is huge there and so are gangs but new York has gangs to.I mean it just seems like it'd b a good place to have sumthn going sum1had to have crews there rite


It's funny you say that Pittsburgh and Baltimore I think are the two worse cities for that as far as users. Camden has the most potent dope in the nation, the size of a 10 bag of dope in Camden is probably about 3 times the size of a bag you'd buy in Philly.


Id think that the drug activity has become more brazen as well in camden since the police department was laid off.

Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: tommykarate] #675905
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There are greeks active in bmore.my family was close with a guy named nick the greek that owned a place called villanova.there was a guy named Tommy bruno to that owned strip clubs.1was called shay joey.idk if the spellings correct on that club

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Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: tommykarate] #676053
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Their is no strong mafia presence in Baltimore at the moment, though I have heard the Gambino's had a faction there for some time. As the years have gone by, the Mafia's interest in expanding to smaller city's seems to have waned, so don't expect a mafia presence in Baltimore anytime soon. From what I can tell any notion that Greeks run Baltimore can be squarely put on David Simon's shoulders.

The real and somewhat anti-climactic truth is that their is no over-arching organized crime group that "runs" Baltimore. The largest crime groups in Baltimore are street and prison gangs. The Black Guerrilla Family is probably the most powerful of local groups due to their size and tendency to use violence. They are also the most organized of the Baltimore street gangs thus allowing them to make money hand over foot in the drug game. That being said, the life expectancy of a BGF member is getting lower every day as more and more of the city's violence involves BGF members.

Besides the BGF, other large gangs are the Bloods, though they are extremely unorganized, with interfighting very common, the Crips, who have are in a similar situation as the Bloods but are a much smaller presence, and the Caucasian prison turned street gang Dead Man Inc. aka DMI. The DMI were created fairly recently and have grown exponentially in the last few years. DMI are concentrated mostly in South Baltimore, in the Curtis Bay area, where Caucasian populations are larger.

Overall Baltimore is a city full of independent groups, which is a major reason for the explosion of violence, with no order it's a free for all. Gangs stick to the drug and weapons trade, as well as other blue collar crimes (robbery, car theft etc.) White collar crimes are run by individuals or small groups, for example their is no large scale group running illegal gambling machines, instead small business owners, usually Asian or Indian ones, run their own gambling machines in a small number of businesses.

Other organized crime groups, such as Hispanic gangs like the MS-13 and Latin Kings operate mainly in neighboring counties, while Biker groups such as the Hells Angels, Pagans, Warlocks, Outlaws, and Iron Horsemen MC's tend to mostly operate in neighboring counties as well, especially on the coast. Neither groups have a very prominent presence in the City.

I'm sorry to have given such a long-winded post, but I've seen this question posed several times before and I hope this could put to rest some people's curiosities.

Source - I'm a Baltimore crime reporter.


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Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: ForgettableName] #676054
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wat about milton tillman the bondsman aint he a pretty big player.

Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: tommykarate] #676057
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Milton Tillman was certainly a very big player, though now that he's sitting in prison he isn't doing to much. But bringing up Milton Tillman is more proof that organized crime, like the things Milton Tillman was doing, are almost always run by individuals or small groups. Tillman ran his criminal operation with only some help from a few friends and family members.

I can give you a thousand examples of people like Tillman, but if you're looking for a large group like the Mafia, or an organized criminal group like the Triads running organized crime activities you'll be disappointed.


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Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: ForgettableName] #676067
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How many members could the bgf have in baltimore, i take it they have been converting other inmates and having those people bring in their friends as well.

Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: tommykarate] #676074
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That's a very hard number to estimate. Police leadership in Baltimore are extremely difficult to get information out of, especially regarding gangs.

But Factoring in the BGF who are currently incarcerated but reside in Baltimore I'd be willing to put the number in the thousands, especially since the BGF don't necessarily require prison time as a requirement for membership now that they've fully expanded into being a street gang/prison gang hybrid.


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Re: mafia in baltimore [Re: tommykarate] #676093
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Thanks for the info.and I didn't mean freelance run bmore I just know my family was friends with a few that were shady


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