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Italian Beef vs Philly Steak #675052
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What do you prefer and why?


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Re: Italian Beef vs Philly Steak [Re: Wilson] #675380
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They both look very tasty to me!!


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Originally Posted By: Yogi Barrabbas
They both look very tasty to me!!

You're British. A bowl of gruel is tasty to you tongue grin.


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Re: Italian Beef vs Philly Steak [Re: Wilson] #675451
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Yogi prefers some weak tea and a chocolate digestive biscuit.


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Re: Italian Beef vs Philly Steak [Re: Sicilian Babe] #675459
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Originally Posted By: Sicilian Babe
Yogi prefers some weak tea and a chocolate digestive biscuit.



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Re: Italian Beef vs Philly Steak [Re: Wilson] #675635
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The last time I had a Philly cheesesteak ("with", BTW) was back in 2006 in Philadelphia in the company of some members of the GBB. A truly nice meal, made even better by the company.

The other sandwich, I must confess I've never had. What exactly is it, besides beef? Does it have a particular name, or it just called "Italian Beef"? (Those look suspiciously like jalapeño peppers mixed in there with all the other goodies.)

A little enlightenment would be greatly appreciated.


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Al's on W. Taylor is the best and tastiest...


Re: Italian Beef vs Philly Steak [Re: Mark] #675892
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Looks quite interesting!

After doing a little research on the Internet, I got the impression that the Philly Cheesesteak is more widely known outside Philadelphia than the Italian Beef is known outside Chicago. Go figure - because it looks delicious.

As a matter of fact, until about two years ago, there was a pizzeria (!) near me here in Brooklyn that served Philly Cheesesteaks. You'd think they would be the ones to serve Italian Beef! But, noooooo..... (After many years, the place closed up and is now a Russian liquor store. frown )

Anyway, for the uninitiated (and I count myself among them), here are a couple of links that are quite informative:

Italian Beef - Wikipedia

Article & Recipe at www.amazingribs.com

Recipe at www.great-chicago-italian-recipes.com

Actually, there are plenty of recipes available online; I chose the ones that seemed the most representative. You may, of course, disagree - particularly if you are a true devotee (and have spent time in Chicago).


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Re: Italian Beef vs Philly Steak [Re: Wilson] #675898
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If you come to philly don't go to the tourist spot like geno's or pats steaks...but before I put my other cent in who my makes the best cheese steak or has the best cheese steaks? I'd ask an Oldhead! lol

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Re: Italian Beef vs Philly Steak [Re: Wilson] #675965
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Since your talking about philly cheesesteaks, there's a place called DiNic’s in the Reading Terminal who's Roast Pork sandwich was voted best sandwich in america on the Travel Channel. I wouldn't go that far but it is a pretty damn good sandwich. Also a place called John's Roast Pork in philly that makes another great roast pork sandwich. I usually stop in one of those 2 spots whenever i'm in philly.

Here is DiNic's Roast Pork.


Re: Italian Beef vs Philly Steak [Re: Giancarlo] #675979
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^^^^
Looks like some broccoli rabe and fried Italian peppers made their way into that sandwich. I'm salivating smile.


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Re: Italian Beef vs Philly Steak [Re: Wilson] #675985
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that pork sandwich looks damn tasty! i remember seeing it on that top sandwich show on travel like was mentioned earlier, and there is broccoli rabe on it and some of the good aged sharp provalone hand cut! pork is the king of meats, so many things you can do with it!


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Originally Posted By: Five_Felonies
pork is the king of meats, so many things you can do with it!

No doubt, FF. But pork is raised entirely too lean in America today. You can't imagine how much tastier it was thirty years ago. Or you can just go to Europe and find out lol.


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Re: Italian Beef vs Philly Steak [Re: Giancarlo] #676077
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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
Since your talking about philly cheesesteaks, there's a place called DiNic’s in the Reading Terminal who's Roast Pork sandwich was voted best sandwich in america on the Travel Channel. I wouldn't go that far but it is a pretty damn good sandwich. Also a place called John's Roast Pork in philly that makes another great roast pork sandwich. I usually stop in one of those 2 spots whenever i'm in philly.

Here is DiNic's Roast Pork.



I've had this sandwich quite a few times at Reading Terminal, but not as often as I'd like. A common pleas judge introduced me to it. It's really amazing. I can think of many delicious sandwiches I've had, but this one isn't surpassed. I usually bring a couple home to Harrisburg if I stop there.

Re: Italian Beef vs Philly Steak [Re: Wilson] #676167
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Pork is the best, I can't argue with that -- and I haven't had that sandwich yet, but I'm dying to try it!

But in general, I'd prefer a Philly Cheesesteak. Never had that Chi-town Italian one, and still don't know exactly what it is, but done right -- I love cheesesteak!

Pork is very intriguing, tho! I've heard good things about that outta Philly as well....



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Re: Italian Beef vs Philly Steak [Re: Wilson] #676173
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Originally Posted By: Wilson
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In the eastern countries this is called Gyro or Donner.The diference bewteen em is Gyro(greek) is with pork meat and Donner(turkish) is with lamb meat


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Toodoped and the rest of the board.......

That is a Combo on a fresh toasted Italian Roll. It not only has Italian beef but also Italian Sausage with hot giardiniera and red sauce.

Ingredients for hot giardiniera: hot peppers, soybean oil, celery, bell peppers, cauliflower, carrots, pitted green olives, spices, vinegar, salt.


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I though i saw a sausage some where in there but i thought i was trippin


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Re: Italian Beef vs Philly Steak [Re: Wilson] #676341
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Okay, here I am sitting in Philly working hurricane duty and I spot this post on line. I have been here for almost a week. Tried a cheesesteak at a restuarant that was supposed to be good in the suburbs (NOT). Went to south Philly to try one of the supposed staples (Jims, cool looking operation). All I can tell you is these will never beat the flavor of a good italian beef. I am a south side (chicago) native. The meat for these is tender but boring, the only way this sandwich had any flavor was to put ketchup on it. Do you believe that they put Cheez Wiz on em? Wow, will never consider ordering one the these again. I will say this, the bread (rolls) for both were fantastic though. Thanks for allowing me to post this!!

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Originally Posted By: bumtownjon
Do you believe that they put Cheez Wiz on em?


They'll usually ask you Wiz or Wizout. lol Alot of the places will give you an option to use provolone (or american) instead of the wiz.

I've never been to Chicago but i know it's known for their excellent Italian Beef sandwiches. One of these days i'll go visit and when i do one of my first stops will be to sample one of them babies.

This thread is making me hungry and i just ate dinner about half an hour ago.

Re: Italian Beef vs Philly Steak [Re: Wilson] #676443
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All I know is that if you get some good bread, and a sirloin roast from the store, you can make some really good Italian beefs at home. Gotta have the hot mix though or its not the same. Cook those hot peppers on the grill with some sweet mixed in.

Re: Italian Beef vs Philly Steak [Re: Giancarlo] #676615
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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
Originally Posted By: bumtownjon
Do you believe that they put Cheez Wiz on em?


They'll usually ask you Wiz or Wizout.


You mean "Wit"... wink Wiz Wit (Or Wit Wiz) (Cheeze Whiz WITH Onions)




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Originally Posted By: Toodoped
In the eastern countries this is called Gyro or Donner.The diference bewteen em is Gyro(greek) is with pork meat and Donner(turkish) is with lamb meat


Hmmm... So, would a gathering of these Turkish sandwich aficionados be called a "Donner Party"? eek


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Originally Posted By: Toodoped
In the eastern countries this is called Gyro or Donner.The diference bewteen em is Gyro(greek) is with pork meat and Donner(turkish) is with lamb meat


I don't know what they do in Yugo, but REAL Gyros, here, mean lamb. I've been to MANY Greek places here in the U.S., and NONE have ever offered pork. NONE. And, pork is my favorite. Go figure.

Traditional Greek gyros are with shaved lamb here in the U.S. If you don't believe it, then no one cares. It's still a fact.



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Originally Posted By: J Geoff
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In the eastern countries this is called Gyro or Donner.The diference bewteen em is Gyro(greek) is with pork meat and Donner(turkish) is with lamb meat


I don't know what they do in Yugo, but REAL Gyros, here, mean lamb. I've been to MANY Greek places here in the U.S., and NONE have ever offered pork. NONE. And, pork is my favorite. Go figure.

Traditional Greek gyros are with shaved lamb here in the U.S. If you don't believe it, then no one cares. It's still a fact.


Thats true,in many european countries,4 example Austria or Germany they make gyro with lamb meat,but its not called "gyro",its called "donner" cuz its sold by turkish ppl.Bottom line i like my gyro with pork meat.But seriosly talkin about REAL gyros in the U.S.?!?! eek


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There's a stand on Steinway and 30th in Astoria. Makes the best gyro I ever had in my life smile.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
There's a stand on Steinway and 30th in Astoria. Makes the best gyro I ever had in my life.


I promised myself to stay off that block. My insurance carrier used to be there when I was driving the cab and I never escaped that block without gaining 5 pounds. Besides all the great Greek food there used to be a pizza place there with the best grandma's pizza I ever had.


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