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DISTRICT ATTORNEY
QUEENS COUNTY
125-01 QUEENS BOULEVARD
KEW GARDENS, NEW YORK 11415-1568
718-286-6000
Release # 147-2012
www.queensda.org
RICHARD A. BROWN
DISTRICT ATTORNEY
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: DISTRICT ATTORNEY
THURSDAY, OCTOBER 25, 2012 718-286-6315
NYPD/DCPI
646-610-6700
FBI
212-384-2100
25 INDIVIDUALS INDICTED IN MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR
ILLEGAL NATIONWIDE SPORTS BETTING RING
Charged With Enterprise Corruption and Promoting Gambling;
Search Warrants Executed In Multiple States Across The Country
Queens District Attorney Richard A. Brown, joined by New York City Police Department
Commissioner Raymond W. Kelly, Acting Assistant Director in Charge of the New York Office of
the Federal Bureau of Investigation Mary E. Galligan, and representatives of other law enforcement
agencies from across the country, today announced the indictment of 25 individuals – including three
owners of a sports betting Internet website – in five states on charges of operating an illegal sports
betting enterprise in Queens County and elsewhere that profited by more than $50 million during an
eighteen-month period by accepting wagers on various sporting events – including horse-racing and
professional and college football, basketball, hockey and baseball.
In addition, dozens of search warrants and asset seizure warrants were executed in multiple
jurisdictions in New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Nevada and California, resulting, to date, in
the seizure of real property and more than $7.6 million in cash and gambling chips. The arrests
and/or warrants were carried out by the New York City Police Department’s Organized Crime
Investigation Division, the FBI’s Asset Forfeiture Section, the Nevada Gaming Control Board, the
New Jersey State Commission of Investigation, the Monmouth County (NJ) Prosecutor’s Office, the
New Jersey State Attorney General’s Office, the Pennsylvania State Police and the Los Angeles
Police Department. Furthermore, the Office of Loretta E. Lynch, the United States Attorney for the
Eastern District of New York, has filed asset forfeiture warrants against the defendants’ assets.
Eight defendants were arrested yesterday and arraigned in Queens County Supreme Court
in Kew Gardens. Seventeen additional defendants were arrested yesterday in New Jersey,
Pennsylvania, Nevada and California. The defendants are all charged with Enterprise Corruption
– a violation of New York State’s Organized Crime Control Act – as well as being variously charged
with promoting gambling, money laundering and conspiracy. They each face up to 25 years in prison
if convicted.
District Attorney Brown said, “The defendants are accused of operating an incredibly- 2 -
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lucrative illegal gambling operation – taking in more than $50 million in a year and a half. Such
unlawfully earned profits are often – and easily – diverted to more insidious criminal enterprises. ”
The District Attorney continued, “Illegal gambling is not a victimless crime. Those who
participate in these criminal enterprises often use threats, intimidation and even physical force to
collect debts and oftentimes charge usurious interest rates on outstanding debts. In addition to our
NYPD and FBI partners, I want to thank our other law enforcement and governmental colleagues
and authorities in other states for their cooperation and efforts in this investigation. So massive was
the enterprise that only with their assistance could we bring these defendants to justice.”
Police Commissioner Kelly said, “The defendants in this case gambled and lost that their
illegal activities would fly under the radar. I want to commend the NYPD detectives, federal agents
and our out-of-state partners, who together with the Queens District Attorney’s prosecutors, brought
these individuals to justice.”
Acting FBI Assistant Director in Charge Galligan said, “This action is an important step in
policing illegal sports wagering, from hockey to horse racing. This is yet another example of the
collaboration between the FBI and our partners that is increasingly necessary to combat evermore
sophisticated crimes and the criminals who commit them.”
District Attorney Brown said that the investigation leading to today’s indictment began in
February 2011 when NYPD Organized Crime Investigation Division detectives developed
information about an illegal sports betting operation and began a joint investigation with the District
Attorney’s Organized Crime and Rackets Bureau. The investigation included physical surveillance,
intelligence information and court-authorized electronic eavesdropping.
According to the indictment, between April 13, 2011 and October 18, 2012, the defendants
conspired to acquire money illegally through the operation of an unlawful gambling enterprise
involving the use of Internet web sites that accepted bets on sporting events.
The indictment also alleges that the ring used non-traditional “wire rooms” in the form of offshore, Internet-based gambling services – such as www.pinnaclesports.com,
www.jazzsports.net/com, www.wager4you.com and www.playhera.ag – used by bettors and agents
to actually place their wagers. It is alleged that the members of the enterprise used the off-shore wire
rooms to maintain the gambling accounts of numerous agents through the Internet website in an
effort to evade law enforcement detection through traditional methods.
Law enforcement crackdowns on traditional mob-run wire rooms have led to the use by
illegal gambling rings of off-shore gambling web sites where action is available around the clock.
Bettors can click on an off-shore gambling website over the Internet and be assigned individual login
codes and passwords. Their wagers and win-loss amounts are recorded in “sub-accounts”
maintained in the accounts of “agents.” These gambling web sites typically store their information
on computer servers outside the United States – such as in Costa Rica and Panama – and “bounce”
their data through a series of server nodes in an effort to evade law enforcement.
The indictment charges that at least fifteen of the defendants were “bookmakers”– Daniel
Monreal and PinnacleSports owners Stanley Tomchin and George Molsbarger, in California; Steven- 3 -
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Diano, Jerald Branca, Kelly Barsel, Joseph Paulk and Pinnacle Sports owner Brandt England in Las
Vegas; Andrew Belardino, Michael Duong and Gadoon Kyrollos in New Jersey; and Vincent
Basciano, Jr., Edward Cappucci, Edward Iazzetti and John Tognino, in New York. These
bookmakers were allegedly responsible for overseeing “agents” – such as Thomas Chiantese in New
Jersey and Pennsylvania, Joseph Kornreich in New York and Ian Mandell, and Michael Colbert in
Las Vegas – whose jobs allegedly were to build a clientele of bettors who would regularly bet with
the enterprise. It is alleged that the agents were the intermediaries between the bettor and the
enterprise itself, and were responsible for “squaring up” or “settling up” with the bettors – usually
on a designated day each week – by collecting and paying out money owed.
According to the indictment, the enterprise also employed “money collectors,” “money
distributors” and “banks” – such as Paul Sexton in Las Vegas, Flora Wu and Daniel Bornico in New
York, and Danny Belardino and Christian Rodriguez in New York and New Jersey – to handle the
illegal flow of money between the participants of the enterprise. These individuals were allegedly
responsible for the collection and distribution of illegal gambling proceeds between the bookmakers
and the agents. They also allegedly transported money throughout the United States and to and from
Panama and/or Costa Rica via courier. It is additionally alleged that the money collectors and
distributors that acted as banks were responsible for holding large amounts of money for the
operation. Bookmaking enterprises use money collectors, distributors and banks to avoid wire
transfers and credit card transactions which are prohibited by federal law for the payment and
collection of gambling debts.
The investigation was conducted byDetectivesGerard McNally, of the New York City Police
Department’s Organized Crime Investigation Division, under the supervision of Sergeant James
Bratta, Lieutenant Christopher Farano and Inspector Brian H. O’Neill, and the overall supervision
of Chief Anthony Izzo of the Organized Crime Control Bureau.
Also assisting in the investigation were former Assistant District Attorneys Christine Corbett
and Christine Maloney.
Assistant United States Attorney Ameet B. Kabrawala and Forfeiture Support Associates
Law Clerk Anthony Lauro, of the Asset Forfeiture Unit of the Office of the United States Attorney
for the Eastern District of New York, are handling the asset forfeiture lawsuits against the defendants
under the supervision of Laura D. Mantell, Chief of the Asset Forfeiture Unit, and under the overall
supervision of Loretta E. Lynch, the United States Attorney for the Eastern District of New York.
Assistant District Attorney Gerard A. Brave, Bureau Chief of the District Attorney’s
Organized Crime and Rackets Bureau, is prosecuting the case under the supervision of Executive
Assistant District Attorney for Investigations Peter A. Crusco and Deputy Executive Assistant
District Attorney for Investigations Linda M. Cantoni.
It should be noted that an indictment is merely an accusation and that defendants are
presumed innocent until proven guilty.
Note to Editors: E-version of this press release posted at www.queensda.org. - 4 -
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ADDENDUM
Alleged Bookmakers (15 defendants)
KELLY BARSEL, 42, of 9400 Tournament Canyon Drive in Las Vegas, Nevada, is charged with enterprise
corruption, fourth-, third-, second- and first-degree money laundering and fifth-degree conspiracy.
VINCENT BASCIANO, JR., 31, of 732 Wilcox Avenue in the Bronx, New York, is charged with enterprise
corruption, first-degree money laundering, first-degree promoting gambling, and fifth-degree conspiracy.
ANDREW BELARDINO, 50, of 30 Ridgeview Way in Allentown, New Jersey, is charged with enterprise
corruption, fourth-, third-, second- and first-degree money laundering, first-degree promoting gambling and
fifth-degree conspiracy.
JERALD BRANCA, 67, of 5415 West Harmon Avenue in Las Vegas, Nevada, is charged with enterprise
corruption, fourth-, third-, second- and first-degree money laundering and fifth-degree conspiracy.
STEVEN DIANO, 48 of 6464 Tara Avenue in Las Vegas, Nevada, is charged with enterprise corruption,
fourth-, third-, second and first-degree money laundering and fifth-degree conspiracy.
MICHAEL DUONG, 36, of 30 Smock Court in Manalapan, New Jersey and 147-27 72
nd
Avenue, Flushing,
Queens, is charged with enterprise corruption, second- and first-degree money laundering, first-degree
promoting gambling and fifth-degree conspiracy.
BRANDT ENGLAND, 46, of 2817 High Sail Court in Las Vegas Nevada, is charged with enterprise
corruption, fourth-, third-, second- and first-degree money laundering, first-degree promoting gambling,
fourth-degree conspiracy and fifth-degree conspiracy. England is an owner of Pinnacle Sports, an online
sports gambling website.
EDWARD IAZETTI, 55, of 1103 Rhinelander Avenue in the Bronx, New York, is charged with enterprise
corruption, first-degree promoting gambling, fourth- and first-degree money laundering and fifth-degree
conspiracy.
GADOON KYROLLOS, 34, of 12 Autumn Lane in Freehold, New Jersey, is charged with enterprise
corruption, fourth-, third-, second- and first-degree money laundering, first-degree promoting gambling,
fourth-degree conspiracy and fifth-degree conspiracy.
THOMAS LACERRA, 73, of 685 Sheldon Avenue in Staten Island, New York, is charged with enterprise
corruption and fourth-, third- and first-degree money laundering and fifth-degree conspiracy.
GEORGE MOLSBARGER, 66, of 603 Ocean Avenue in Santa Monica, California, is charged with
enterprise corruption and fourth- third-, second- and first-degree money laundering, and fifth-degree
conspiracy. Molsbarger is an owner of Pinnacle Sports, an online sports gambling website.
DANIEL MONREAL, 61, of 1521 Stonewood Court in San Pedro, California, is charged with enterprise
corruption, third-, second and first-degree money laundering, first-degree promoting gambling and fifthdegree conspiracy.
JOSEPH PAULK, 35, of 3750 Las Vegas Boulevard in Las Vegas, Nevada, is charged with enterprise
corruption, fourth-, third-, second- and first-degree money laundering, and fifth-degree conspiracy.
JOHN TOGNINO, 70, of 3191 Ampere Avenue in the Bronx, New York, is charged with enterprise- 5 -
corruption, fourth-, third-, second- and first-degree money laundering, first-degree promoting gambling and
fifth-degree conspiracy.
STANLEY TOMCHIN, 67, of 727 Lilac Drive in Montecito, California, is charged with enterprise
corruption and fourth-, third-, second- and first-degree money laundering and fifth-degree conspiracy.
Tomchin is an owner of Pinnacle Sports, an online sports gambling website.
Alleged Money Collectors/Distributors/Banks (5 defendants)
DANIEL BELARDINO, 57, of 25-09 Rosalie Street in Fair Lawn, New Jersey, is charged with enterprise
corruption, fourth- and first-degree money laundering, first-degree promoting gambling and fifth-degree
conspiracy.
DANIEL BORNICO, 67, of 732 Naples Avenue in Franklin Square, Long Island, is charged with enterprise
corruption, fourth-, third- and first-degree money laundering, first-degree promoting gambling and fifthdegree conspiracy.
CHRISTIAN RODRIGUEZ, 33, of 695 Arlington Drive in Old Bridge, New Jersey, is charged with
enterprise corruption and fourth-, third-, second- and first-degree money laundering and fifth-degree
conspiracy.
PAUL SEXTON, 29, of 2708 Robust Court in Henderson, Nevada, is charged with enterprise corruption and
fourth-, third-, second- and first-degree money laundering, and fifth-degree conspiracy.
FLORA WU, 37, of 920 Union Street in Brooklyn, New York, is charged with enterprise corruption and
fourth-, third- and first-degree money laundering and fifth-degree conspiracy
Alleged Money Collectors/Agents(5 defendants)
EDWARD CAPPUCCI, 69, of 78 Todt Hill in Staten Island, New York, is charged with enterprise
corruption, third-, second- and first-degree money laundering and fifth-degree conspiracy.
THOMAS CHIANTESE, 64, of 101-66 Verree Road in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, is charged with
enterprise corruption, third- and first-degree money laundering, first-degree promoting gambling and fifthdegree conspiracy.
MICHAEL COLBERT, 32, of 10098 Peak Lookout Street in Las Vegas, Nevada, is charged with enterprise
corruption, fourth-, third- and first-degree money laundering and fifth-degree conspiracy. Colbert is a vice
president of Cantor Gaming, which operates seven sportsbooks in Las Vegas.
JOSEPH KORNREICH, 60, of 21-15 80
th
Street in East Elmhurst, Queens, is charged with enterprise
corruption, third- and first-degree money laundering, first-degree promoting gambling and fifth-degree
conspiracy.
IAN MANDELL, 43, of 1885 Cape Cod Landing in Las Vegas, Nevada, is charged with enterprise corruption
and fourth-, third- and first-degree money laundering and fifth-degree conspiracy.
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Re: Huge Gambling Bust [Re: cheech] #672097
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is that Basciano's kid? says hes from the Bronx

vinny basciano jr?


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Re: Huge Gambling Bust [Re: cheech] #672098
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Yes

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Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Huge Gambling Bust [Re: cheech] #672103
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are you gonna post it on your site DD?


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Re: Huge Gambling Bust [Re: cheech] #672105
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oh you did...good stuff

that kid Mike Pepe from Connecticut that got busted in that Gambino gambling bust is a good friend of mine, hope he gets a light sentence in the 29th....saw you posted a few articles on your site about him


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Yea, I also posted the chart from the indictment as well.

It is Vinny Jr, I remember the pics of him in the newspaper during Vinny Sr's recent trials.

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Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


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Originally Posted By: cheech
oh you did...good stuff

that kid Mike Pepe from Connecticut that got busted in that Gambino gambling bust is a good friend of mine, hope he gets a light sentence in the 29th....saw you posted a few articles on your site about him


Will keep you posted if I find out more

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Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Huge Gambling Bust [Re: cheech] #672113
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So stupid. Nothing wrong with sports betting

Re: Huge Gambling Bust [Re: NickyEyes1] #672136
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I cant believe that the feds take these cases! The way the economy is and they spend way more money than they will ever get back in fines in these cases!!

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I can imagine that the federal prosecutors are good and honest people who try hard at their jobs and to make a name for themselves arguing law a presenting the material to a grand jury then after fighting to get indictments then prosecute them. But what is this big push at petty crimes with no violence ie gambling and loansharking! Who is behind that or is it just to give out government jobs cause there is way more crimes of serious nature that they probably could use those agents on?

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About time there is some interesting news after that summer.


"You shouldn’t be embarrassed by your wealth. This contempt for money is another trick by the rich to keep the poor without it" - Michael Corleone

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It's a money grab plain and simple

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Wow, great find. Is Basciano's kid in a family or just an associate?

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Thats a lot of ppl looks like they had that running out of vegas...wow...Oklahoma big this weekend lay the 10

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Originally Posted By: short841
About time there is some interesting news after that summer.

yeah these guys have been boring for a while now.

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Im only guessing that Vinnie Gorgous left a liitle money to his family even though he wasnt boss that long! But this is just a hobby as long as nobody gets hurt!

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It's the guys they picked up in Cali that are a big deal wink

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Hey Jimmy two times to answer your question, Basciano Jr is a made member in the Bonanno family.

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This is one of hundreds of gambling operations the five families conduct. This isn't doing anything except putting a few sleazeballs in jail. The bonannos didn't lose anyone important


"Don't ever go against the family again. Ever"- Michael Corleone
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Vinny Jr and Dom Cicale got into a fight with Nick Cirillo (he was high on crack during it) while Vinny Jr (Vinny Sr was boss and on the street) was up for induction into the Bonannos at the time. Cirillo went missing two weeks after.

People thought it was the Bonannos who whacked him initially, but then reports and wiretapped convos between Massino and Basciano Sr in prison confirmed the Genovese took out Cirillo Jr themselves, and the Genovese apologized to Basciano Sr for the incident according to the wiretaps.




Nicholas Cirillo's fate came up in a candid conversation between ex-Bonanno boss Joseph Massino and acting boss Vincent (Vinny Gorgeous) Basciano secretly recorded for the feds by Massino.

"That came from Dom, that came from Dom," Basciano told Massino in the January 2005 talk when asked who did in the mobster's son.

Massino, the highest ranking Mafia rat ever to testify in a New York courtroom was asked by prosecutor Taryn Merkl to explain what Basciano meant.

"I understand that he's telling me Quiet Dom killed his son," Massino testified in Brooklyn Federal Court.

Authorities have long suspected Nicholas Cirillo was whacked after an altercation in the Bronx with Basciano's son, Vincent Jr., and Bonanno captain Dominick Cicale.

Two weeks after the clash Nicholas Cirillo, then 41, vanished on Mother's Day 2004. His body has never been found.

Investigators have previously theorized that the elder Cirillo, who was estranged from his son, approved the murder because assaulting a made member of the Mafia carries the penalty of death. Cicale was already a wiseguy and Basciano's son was up for induction into the mob at the time.



Massino gestured with his hand like a gun when he asked Basciano: "Do we have anything to do with that [Nicholas Cirillo's murder]?"

"Absolutely not. C'mon," Basciano shot back.

Basciano told Massino he met with Dominick Cirillo about the beef and the Genovese family "came back and apologized to me."

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/04/tape-in-vinny-gorgeous-trial-reveals.html

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Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don


People thought it was the Bonannos who whacked him initially, but then reports and wiretapped convos between Massino and Basciano Sr in prison confirmed the Genovese took out Cirillo Jr themselves, and the Genovese apologized to Basciano Sr for the incident according to the wiretaps.



That is an interesting part of Mafia protocol. Very often the losing party, in a sitdown between two Families where murder is issued as a punishment, has to take care of the problem. In this case, the Genoveses were found guilty and where told to "take care" of Nick Cirillo. And that is why I believe, which I also said in the Tommy DeSimone thread, if DeSimone was killed because of Blly Batts murder and if there was a sitdown between the Gambinos and the Luccheses, DeSimone´s murder was most likely handled by the Luccheses.
A winning party in a sitdown where murder is the outcome, should not have to risk getting caught, by LE, in something they are ruled not being guilty of. That´s Mafia protocol.


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^^Great point and very true.


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Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Huge Gambling Bust [Re: Dapper_Don] #672452
10/27/12 03:21 PM
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Back on point. I can't believe how many of these guys were charged with Enterprise Corruption. That's almost like slapping on a RICO charge.

I'll bet the government will be willing to drop that charge if these guys will plea out to felony gambling. And let's face it, a plea is the smart thing to do in this day and age.


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Re: Huge Gambling Bust [Re: pizzaboy] #672478
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Re: Huge Gambling Bust [Re: cheech] #672504
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how could someone approve their kid getting killed? do you think he did

Re: Huge Gambling Bust [Re: NickyEyes1] #672607
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What's really weird though is that although the bookmaking in itself is really just un-taxed money which the government hates, but I can see why the Loan sharking and Extortion becomes a problem as the three do go hand in hand perfectly. Lets face it, in this day and age, people may get roughed up a little, but never killed over debt. I remember I watched a documentary on Mad Sam Destefano, now he was one crazy Loan Shark! Surely that kind of stuff doesn't happen anymore, because if it does, then I can see why the FBI do crack down on it.

Also like I said, these are small crimes that the government hates just because the money is tax free, but doesn't this kind of money move on to bigger crimes like Narcotics and other forms of criminality??


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