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Tampa & new Orleans crime family today #657172
07/26/12 05:09 AM
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For my curiosity what are the situation of two crime family in the 2012 ?

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Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: furio_from_naples] #657182
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http://www.streetgangs.com/billboard/viewtopic.php?f=302&t=40078&start=30

Michael T----- seems to have taken control of the New Orleans Mafia along with his brother Joseph "Joey" T-----. The T----- brothers have a five decade family history in the New Orleans Mob. They also have family ties to the New York Colombo Family that go back to the 80's. Here are a few links and some other infomation that supports this line of thinking.
The New Orleans crime family has or had an impact throughout all Louisiana and several other southern states like Missouri, Texas and Mississippi. It has an estimated 10 "made" members left and many more associates. Some people say it is almost dead; others claim that it is one of the most powerful Mafia crime families in the United States today. It has been said that they are still active but these reports are unsubstantiated.Since Hurricane Katrina two brothers Joseph and Michael T----- have emereged as a new force in New Orleans. Michael T-----[1] has a long history of run ins with the law and was acussed of being part of an attempt to "fix" a federal trial[2] as far back as 1988. He was released from prison in 2003 for a kidnaping sceme[3] where T----- would kidnap local drug dealers and hold them for ransom.They also have family ties to New York[4] and the Colombo Family. The T----- brothers own[5] and control a large residential sub-divison that has resulted in a RICO[6] case being brought against them it seems as though their futre is still in question.We will be waiting and watching to see if this is the return of the "old school" New Orleans mafia.


This is the membership page of a post Hurricane Katrina report done by the New Orleans MCC Crimnal Intelligence Division.

New Orleans Organized Crime Family Structure and Membership
2010



Boss
Joseph Gagliano
Son Of Former Family Underboss
Control Of Family Seems In Question
Many Of The Most Important Members
View Gagliano As Just A Figure Head
And Not In Touch With Whats Goes On
With The Rank And File Membership



Caporegime
Michael T-----
Grandson Of Former Family Soldier
Has Strong Ties To The Colombo
Crime Family In New York And Florida
T----- Has A Reputation For Violence
And Is Feared As Well As Respected
With The Rank And File Membership
T----- Appears To Control All Street
Level Membership And Holds Weekly
Meetings With Ranking Membership



Membership
Charles Farese III
Frank Gagliano Jr.
Anthony Di Piazza
Nofio Pecora Jr.
Felix Riggio
Joseph T-----
Victor Tusa
Anthony Tusa
Barry La Bruzzo
Herbert Barcotto
Gregory Lola
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This is the known membership as of 2011 there are many more suspected members according to the New Orleans Metropolitan Crime Commission

T-----, Michael
* capo / street boss
* grandson of Joseph T-----
* brother of Joseph T-----
* nephew of Anthony DiPiazza
* cousin of Dominic T----- member of the Colombo Family
* released from prison for kidnapping in 2003
* reported to still be alive

T-----, Joseph "Joey"
* soldier
* grandson of Joseph T-----
* cousin of Dominic T----- member of the Colombo Family
* brother of Michael T-----
* made in 1999
* involved in loansharking
* reported to still be alive

DiPiazza, Anthony
* soldier
* son of Salvatore DiPiazza
* uncle of Joseph and Michael T-----
* made in 1984
* involved in illegal gambling
* born around 1952 in New Orleans

Gagliano, Joseph
* soldier
* son of Frank
* made in 1990
* born around 1958 in New Orleans, LA
* reported to be still alive

Marcello, Salvatore
* capo
* brother of Anthony, Joseph, Carlos and Pascal
* born around 1929 in New Orleans, LA
* reported to be still alive

Pecoraro, Onofio Jr. "Nofio Pecora Jr."
* soldier
* son of Nofio
* made in 1986
* went to prison for mail fraud in 2004
* born around 1950 in New Orleans, LA
* reported to be still alive

Riggio, Felix
* soldier
* made in 1993
* involved in illegal gambling
* reported to be still alive

Tusa, Victor
* soldier
* made 1993
* involved in illegal gambling
* reported to still be alive

Tusa, Anthony
* soldier
* made 1993
* involved in illegal gambling
* reported to still be alive

Last edited by J Geoff; 11/05/12 03:43 PM. Reason: Removed surname upon legal threat
Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: furio_from_naples] #657183
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This is the full chart of the Trafficante Mafia Family of Tampa, FL. The chart was made by Scott M. Deitche on his site.


Trafficante LCN Family Membership

Albano, Frank Peter
* underboss
* made in 1978
* born around 1939 in New York City
* reported to be still alive

Amorelli, Antonio Mario
* soldier
* made in 2008
* cousin of Vincent LoScalzo
* born around 1948 in Alessandria Della Rocca, Sicily
* reported to be still alive

Antinori, Ignazio
* first LCN boss of Tampa
* born on February 17, 1885 in Palermo, Sicily
* murdered on October 23, 1940

Antinori, Joseph
* soldier
* son of Ignazio Antinori
* born on February 2, 1909 in Tampa
* murdered on November 4, 1953

Bedami, Angelo Sr.
* capo
* born on December 23, 1893 in Alessandria Della Rocca, Sicily
* passed away on November 30, 1980 in Tampa

Bedami, Ciro
* soldier
* son of Angelo Bedami Sr.
* born around 1925 in Tampa
* passed away on September 20, 2009 in Tampa

Bedami, Joseph Sr.
* soldier
* son of Angelo Bedami Sr.
* born around 1923 in Tampa
* disappeared in August of 1968

Bruno, James Guida "Jimmy"
* soldier
* owner of Jimmy's Lounge
* born on October 26, 1914 in Tampa
* passed away on March 31, 1988 in Tampa

Cacciatore, Sam
* soldier
* born around 1917 in Tampa
* passed away on June 12, 1981 in Tampa

Cacciatore, Terry
* soldier
* nephew of Sam Cacciatore
* made in 2008
* born around 1945 in Tampa
* reported to be still alive

Camero, Joseph Randall "Randy"
* soldier
* made in 1994
* owner of Camero Enterprises
* born on November 2, 1953 in Tampa
* passed away on November 21, 2008 in Tampa

Carollo, Salvatore "Big Sam"
* soldier
* made in 1987
* born on October 7, 1937 in Tampa
* reported to be still alive

Diecidue, Alphonse "Al"
* capo
* born around 1872 in Cianciana, Sicily
* passed away on April 24, 1947 in Tampa

Diecidue, Antonio "Tony"
* soldier
* son of Alphonse Diecidue
* owner of Diecidue Produce Co.
* born on May 12, 1896 in Cianciana, Sicily
* passed away on February 23, 1993 in Tampa

Diecidue, Frank "Daddy Frank"
* underboss
* son of Alphonse Diecidue
* owner of Dixie Amusement Co.
* born on February 20, 1915 in Tampa
* passed away on October 18, 1994 in Tampa

Diecidue, Gaetano "Tom"
* soldier
* son of Alphonse Diecidue
* born around 1903 in Cianciana, Sicily
* passed away on December 18, 1994 in Tampa

DiGerlando, Joseph "Joe D"
* soldier
* made in 1984
* owner of DiGerlando Enterprises
* reported to be still alive

Furci, Dominick "Nick"
* soldier
* owner of Tip-Top Motor Co.
* born on March 8, 1911 in Tampa
* passed away in 1987

Ippolito, Frank "Cowboy"
* soldier
* made in 1988
* owner of the La Tropicana Restaurant
* born on April 16, 1921 in Tampa
* passed away on April 17, 2008 in Tampa

Italiano, Salvatore "Red"
* acting boss
* fled to Mexico in 1950
* born around 1898 in Napoli, Italy
* passed away in 1968

Lazzara, Augustine "Primo"
* capo
* owner of the Yellow House Bar
* born on September 10, 1906 in Tampa
* passed away on April 8, 1968 in Tampa

Lazzara, Joseph
* soldier
* brother of Augustine Lazzara
* owner of Castaways Lounge and Eden Rock Liquor Store
* born around 1921 in Tampa
* passed away on December 1, 1999 in Tampa

Longo, James Costa "Jimmy"
* soldier
* born around 1910 in Wilkes-Barre, PA
* passed away on June 15, 1992 in Tampa

Lorenzo, Salvatore "Silent Sam"
* soldier
* born on May 19, 1927 in Tampa
* passed away in 1995

LoScalzo, Angelo "The Hammer"
* soldier
* born around 1908 in Alessandria Della Rocca, Sicily
* passed away in 1977

LoScalzo, Vincent
* the last boss of Tampa
* son of Angelo LoScalzo
* co-owner of Mike's Lounge and Lo-Val, Inc.
* owner of Brother's Lounge and Mahalo Auto Sales
* born on May 6, 1937 in Alessandria Della Rocca, Sicily
* reported to be still alive

Lumia, James "Head of the Elks"
* acting boss
* owner of Bay Oil Co.
* born on September 10, 1903 in Tampa
* murdered on June 5, 1950

Mamone, John "Big John"
* soldier
* made in 1996
* formerly associated with the Genovese Mafia Family
* owner of Gateway Trucking Co.
* became an informant in 2001

Mistretta, Gaetano
* soldier
* born around 1893 in Palermo, Sicily
* passed away in 1975

Napoli, Mike
* soldier
* made in 1997
* born on January 22, 1951 in Tampa
* reported to be still alive

Perla, Arthur "Art"
* soldier
* born around 1908 in Tampa
* passed away in 1998

Piazza, Phillip "Phil"
* capo
* brother-in-law of Salvatore Italiano
* owner of the Red Top Bar
* born on January 21, 1903 in Cianciana, Sicily
* passed away on January 21, 1977 in Tampa

Raffa, Steve Bruno "Uncle Steve"
* capo
* owner of Akel Market
* born on October 2, 1941 in Tampa
* killed himself on November 16, 2000

Scaglione, Alfonso "Al"
* soldier
* born around 1917 in Tampa
* passed away on February 5, 1996 in Tampa

Scaglione, Nick
* soldier
* brother of Alfonso Scaglione
* owner of University Restaurant
* born around 1931 in Tampa
* passed away in 2002

Scaglione, Salvatore "Sal"
* underboss
* owner of Italian Castle Restaurant
* born on November 12, 1894 in Alessandria Della Rocca, Sicily
* passed away on August 9, 1964 in Tampa

Scaglione, Stefano "Steve"
* soldier
* son of Salvatore Scaglione
* born on May 29, 1918 in Alessandria Della Rocca, Sicily
* passed away on December 7, 1995 in Tampa

Trafficante, Enrico "Henry"
* capo
* owner of the Dream Bar
* born on November 23, 1924 in Tampa
* passed away in 2002

Trafficante, Santo Jr. "Sam Balto"
* boss from 1954 until 1987
* brother of Enrico Trafficante
* co-owner of Riviera Hotel & Casino
* owner of Kit Kat Bar, Tahitian Inn, Tropicana Hotel and Sans Souci Casino
* born on November 14, 1914 in Tampa
* passed away on March 17, 1987 in Tampa

Trafficante, Santo Sr. "Don Santo"
* boss from 1940 until 1954
* brother-in-law of Sam Cacciatore
* father of Enrico Trafficante
* co-owner of Sevilla Biltmore Hotel
* owner of Trafficante Cigar Co., Capri Hotel & Casino, Commodoro Hotel and Tropicana Hotel
* born on May 28, 1886 in Alessandria Della Rocca, Sicily
* passed away on August 10, 1954 in Tampa

Trafficante, Salvatore "Sal"
* soldier
* brother of Enrico Trafficante
* father-in-law of Frank Albano
* born on November 14, 1916 in Tampa
* passed away in 2002

Trafficante, Santo Jose "Santico"
* soldier
* nephew of Enrico Trafficante
* born around 1937 in Tampa
* passed away on July 10, 2010 in Tampa

Vaglica, Giuseppe "Joe"
* soldier
* born around 1893 in Cianciana, Sicily
* murdered on July 11, 1937

Valenti, James
* capo
* made in 1990
* co-owner of Lo-Val, Inc.
* born around 1948
* reported to be still alive

Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: Scalish] #657185
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I bet the Tufaros are kicking up to Sripes DeMarco.

Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: furio_from_naples] #657186
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They say Michael does not answer to anyone anymore I hear he is the cheif now in New Orleans and that everyone is scared of him.

Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: furio_from_naples] #657187
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They say Michael does not answer to anyone anymore I hear he is the cheif now in New Orleans and that everyone is scared of him.

Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: furio_from_naples] #657193
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That information in the post on New Orleans from the street gangs board is nothing but bullshit. You can throw that right out the window. I asked that guy repeatedly for a link or some source to this New Orleans Metropolitan Crime Commission. Never did get anything. He made it all up. There's really nothing left of the family there. Even back in the early 1990's the family was said to be largely finished.

As for Tampa, these are the names I've seen most recently listed. Scott D may need to update the list.


1. Francisco "Frank" Albano
2. Antonio Amorelli
3. Joseph Camero
4. Salvatore "Sam" Carollo
5. Joseph DiGerlando
6. Vincent LoScalzo
7. Sam Lumia Sr.
8. Michael Napoli
9. James Valenti

Last edited by IvyLeague; 07/26/12 08:18 AM.

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Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: furio_from_naples] #657195
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Sounds good Ivy League. So Michael T----- does not exist?

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Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: IvyLeague] #657196
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1. Francisco "Frank" Albano - still around
2. Antonio Amorelli
3. Joseph Camero - dead
4. Salvatore "Sam" Carollo
5. Joseph DiGerlando - still a developer
6. Vincent LoScalzo - beverage manager at Emerald Green Country Club in north Tampa
7. Sam Lumia Sr. - not sure
8. Michael Napoli - not active
9. James Valenti -

There are about half a dozen younger guys around as well. Not necessarily made, but linked by law enforcement to the crime family. THat info is about 8 years old at this point so I'm not sure what their current status is.

Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: Scalish] #657200
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Originally Posted By: Scalish
They say Michael does not answer to anyone anymore I hear he is the cheif now in New Orleans and that everyone is scared of him.


I was kidding. Stripes DeMarco doesn't really exist, and neither does this "T-----" person.

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Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: IvyLeague] #657201
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
There's really nothing left of the family there. Even back in the early 1990's the family was said to be largely finished.


It died with Marcello in 1993.

Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: furio_from_naples] #657205
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Wow I thought the Tampa outfit was largely defunct. Quite surprising. As for the NOLA family. Pretty sure that info is bogus. I think the final blow to them was illegal gaming case int eh early '90s. Interesting, because int he heyday NOLA was the birthplace of the LCN

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Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: furio_from_naples] #657255
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the crews of the 5 families in florida are all stronger than trafficante family today

Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: furio_from_naples] #657278
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The fact that there has been no LE/OC activity post Katrina tells you that the family in NO is either very very small or defuct. Any family would exploit Katrina and the construction explosion.

Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: furio_from_naples] #657280
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mafia owns several costruction enterprises i doubt fbi know all connected to the mob

Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: furio_from_naples] #657290
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The Tampa family is pretty much defunct. At least I wouldn't consider it viable. Supposedly, some time ago they were said to be "with" the Gambinos. Which I always took to mean that the remnants of the Trafficate family had more or less aligned themselves with the Gambinos in the state. Not joining the families into one but simply working in partnership.


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Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: furio_from_naples] #657298
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im betting lil wayne got more say in the n.o. then anyone. and with florida once your there its like a unity family philly nyc boston cleveland chicago providence lets play hearts or whist cause we aint in prison.o and send cheap cigarets and other knock off shit up north cause theres money to be made. that gambino guy crushed the philly and new england families that cant be a good look. someone one gotta come up with lawyer money its open season in florida rite?

Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: furio_from_naples] #794362
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http://theadvocate.com/news/neworleans/n...rrant-to-search

Here is some current action in New Orleans. Seems as though Joe Gagliano the current boss of New Orleans got in a little trouble. Law Enforcement. officials here in New Orleans believeJoewasout to knock off his main rival Michael. T-----. Law Enforcement. has believed for sometime. Michael T-----. because of his ties to the NY Colombo Family has taken control. of New Orleans. Well. lookslikeJoeGagliano wasgoing to bring and end to Mr T-----. and his control. of whatever is going on in New Orleans Organized. Crime. So I guess New Orleans ia s not as dead. as people. would have you believe.

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Originally Posted By: nolaguy

http://theadvocate.com/news/neworleans/n...rrant-to-search

Here is some current action in New Orleans. Seems as though Joe Gagliano the current boss of New Orleans got in a little trouble. Law Enforcement. officials here in New Orleans believeJoewasout to knock off his main rival Michael. T-----. Law Enforcement. has believed for sometime. Michael T-----. because of his ties to the NY Colombo Family has taken control. of New Orleans. Well. lookslikeJoeGagliano wasgoing to bring and end to Mr T-----. and his control. of whatever is going on in New Orleans Organized. Crime. So I guess New Orleans ia s not as dead. as people. would have you believe.


I was wondering when you'd pop up to use this incident as basis for your claims about New Orleans. The family is dead there. Just like families are in many other areas of the country. A few remaining members and associates, some even active in crime, doesn't change that.


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lol I wasn't aware that certain posters had the authority to set the universal standards around what constitutes a "formal leadership structure" and a mafia family from the comfort of their computer chairs thousands of miles away.

Even if it's a few Italian guys who are descendants of major gangsters running a small book, it's organized crime and worth discussing on this forum. No one forces you to read these threads. Consider skipping the, if it bothers you so much that people want to talk and guess what's going on in certain cities.

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Originally Posted By: ChiTown
lol I wasn't aware that certain posters had the authority to set the universal standards around what constitutes a "formal leadership structure" and a mafia family from the comfort of their computer chairs thousands of miles away.

Even if it's a few Italian guys who are descendants of major gangsters running a small book, it's organized crime and worth discussing on this forum. No one forces you to read these threads. Consider skipping the, if it bothers you so much that people want to talk and guess what's going on in certain cities.


While I understand your point Chitown, let's not call New Orleans or Tampa a "family." And I believe you misinterpreted the previous statements. The source for the "posters" is the U.S. Justice Department and the FBI. Technically, you could call a gang of african americans who are robbing houses "an organized crime" ring since it takes some organization by the members to rob a house.

I don't know what is so hard to understand that the only families still in existence that are LCN are: The 5 in NY, Chicago, Philly, New Jersey, New England (which is in bad shape and closer to going extinct) and Detroit. I'd have to say that the U.S. Justice Department and the FBI know a little more about the topic than you do.

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Re: Tampa & new Orleans crime family today [Re: nolaguy] #794558
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Originally Posted By: nolaguy

http://theadvocate.com/news/neworleans/n...rrant-to-search

Here is some current action in New Orleans. Seems as though Joe Gagliano the current boss of New Orleans got in a little trouble. Law Enforcement. officials here in New Orleans believeJoewasout to knock off his main rival Michael. T-----. Law Enforcement. has believed for sometime. Michael T-----. because of his ties to the NY Colombo Family has taken control. of New Orleans. Well. lookslikeJoeGagliano wasgoing to bring and end to Mr T-----. and his control. of whatever is going on in New Orleans Organized. Crime. So I guess New Orleans ia s not as dead. as people. would have you believe.


Who is Michael T------?


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Originally Posted By: nolaguy

http://theadvocate.com/news/neworleans/n...rrant-to-search

Here is some current action in New Orleans. Seems as though Joe Gagliano the current boss of New Orleans got in a little trouble. Law Enforcement. officials here in New Orleans believeJoewasout to knock off his main rival Michael. T-----. Law Enforcement. has believed for sometime. Michael T-----. because of his ties to the NY Colombo Family has taken control. of New Orleans. Well. lookslikeJoeGagliano wasgoing to bring and end to Mr T-----. and his control. of whatever is going on in New Orleans Organized. Crime. So I guess New Orleans ia s not as dead. as people. would have you believe.


A few former made guys running around town on scores and running schemes and you call that "a family?" Do you consider Cleveland to be dead? There are still some former made guys and associates doing a few little things, but they are not a family.

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Please point me to the rules in this forum explicitly state posters are not allowed to gossip and talk about Italian organized criminals unless the FBI or US Justice Dept. officially calls them a "family." Until you can, I will never understand why certain posters feel the need to be the police when it comes to this shit.

And if we believed the FBI and US Justice Department reports, then they have been "decimating" and "dismantling" LCN families across the country for...over 50 years smile

It's the GangstersBB Forum not the "Official LCN Families Based on the classification of the FBI and US Justice Department Forum."

Let people enjoy the forum - we are here to talk about gangsters - these guys in Nola in vans created for hits are obviously gangsters - skip over these threads if they drive you that nuts.

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Originally Posted By: ChiTown
Please point me to the rules in this forum explicitly state posters are not allowed to gossip and talk about Italian organized criminals unless the FBI or US Justice Dept. officially calls them a "family." Until you can, I will never understand why certain posters feel the need to be the police when it comes to this shit.

And if we believed the FBI and US Justice Department reports, then they have been "decimating" and "dismantling" LCN families across the country for...over 50 years smile

It's the GangstersBB Forum not the "Official LCN Families Based on the classification of the FBI and US Justice Department Forum."

Let people enjoy the forum - we are here to talk about gangsters - these guys in Nola in vans created for hits are obviously gangsters - skip over these threads if they drive you that nuts.


Most of these posters myself included are here for accurate information. In my case, I have been a part of 5 published books on organized crime, so I'm not intimidated by your public opinion.

And in case you haven't read anything for the last 30 years, the FBI has "DISMANTLED" a majority of organized crime families across the country. Originally, there were 26 mafia families, and now we are down to 9...I'd say the Justice Department and the FBI along with their good friend RICO has not only decimated a "majority" of OC families, but the Feds have locked up or put away a majority of influential, high profile mafioso going back to the 1985 Commission case.


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lol I wasn't aware that certain posters had the authority to set the universal standards around what constitutes a "formal leadership structure" and a mafia family from the comfort of their computer chairs thousands of miles away.

Even if it's a few Italian guys who are descendants of major gangsters running a small book, it's organized crime and worth discussing on this forum. No one forces you to read these threads. Consider skipping the, if it bothers you so much that people want to talk and guess what's going on in certain cities.


First, nolaguy has been cruising various forums for last couple years trying to use a mixture of fact and fiction to convince people there is still an LCN family in New Orleans. Most of it he's simply made up out of thin air, with a handful of real names thrown in to make it look more legit. He cites a phantom New Orleans Metropolitan Crime Commission report but has no links to it. All his links have either gone to his blog or to dead ends.

Second, you know very well it's not me who is setting the standard. People can go by what the FBI says. Read the recent articles involving the "assassin van." Or you can look at the general lack of mob activity over the past 20 years. The last significant bust was the video gambling case back in the 1990's and, even then, the family was considered to be on it's last legs. That's only been proven true since then.

Third, nobody is saying people can't discuss whatever holdouts remain in New Orleans and what they're up to. But nolaguy's agenda is to convince people that there's still a formally structured, viable family left there. Never mind the fact that there aren't more than a few made members left at most.

How about you be honest for once, ChiTown, and quit trying to confuse the issue with your BS.

Originally Posted By: Bugsyvegas1930
And in case you haven't read anything for the last 30 years, the FBI has "DISMANTLED" a majority of organized crime families across the country. Originally, there were 26 mafia families, and now we are down to 9...I'd say the Justice Department and the FBI along with their good friend RICO has not only decimated a "majority" of OC families, but the Feds have locked up or put away a majority of influential, high profile mafioso going back to the 1985 Commission case.


Agreed. Anyone who cares to look at the evidence (objectively) will find there are 9 viable families left - the 5 NY families, New Jersey, New England, Philadelphia, and Chicago. Maybe 10 if one includes Detroit. "Viable" meaning there is still a semblance of a formal structure and significant ongoing activity. These are the families you will see listed in any recent article citing official sources. And, not surprisingly, the cases (or lack thereof) in various cities only prove to support this. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, we've always had a number of posters on these forums who are intent on convincing people there are still active families in other cities.

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Originally Posted By: ChiTown
lol I wasn't aware that certain posters had the authority to set the universal standards around what constitutes a "formal leadership structure" and a mafia family from the comfort of their computer chairs thousands of miles away.

Even if it's a few Italian guys who are descendants of major gangsters running a small book, it's organized crime and worth discussing on this forum. No one forces you to read these threads. Consider skipping the, if it bothers you so much that people want to talk and guess what's going on in certain cities.


First, nolaguy has been cruising various forums for last couple years trying to use a mixture of fact and fiction to convince people there is still an LCN family in New Orleans. Most of it he's simply made up out of thin air, with a handful of real names thrown in to make it look more legit. He cites a phantom New Orleans Metropolitan Crime Commission report but has no links to it. All his links have either gone to his blog or to dead ends.

Second, you know very well it's not me who is setting the standard. People can go by what the FBI says. Read the recent articles involving the "assassin van." Or you can look at the general lack of mob activity over the past 20 years. The last significant bust was the video gambling case back in the 1990's and, even then, the family was considered to be on it's last legs. That's only been proven true since then.

Third, nobody is saying people can't discuss whatever holdouts remain in New Orleans and what they're up to. But nolaguy's agenda is to convinced people that there's still a formally structured, viable family left there. Never mind the fact that there aren't more than a few made members left at most.

How about you be honest for once, ChiTown, and quit trying to confuse the issue with your BS.


Nicely put


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The Tampa mob and the New Orleans mobs r both finished

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Originally Posted By: Bugsyvegas1930


Most of these posters myself included are here for accurate information.


I think this is your first mistake - flawed premise. A lot of guys grew up in neighborhoods around NY and Chicago and simply like to talk shit, speculate and gossip. And theres nothing wrong with that. Do you really think its that unbelievable that Italian OC still exists in American cities outside of the FBI's knowledge? They aren't fucking Superman...

Congrats on being an accredited author - didn't realize there were so many of you on this forum gaining background for your books from anonymous internet forum posters - most of whom just talk shit to each other and gossip.

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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
The Tampa mob and the New Orleans mobs r both finished


I agree - they are both finished compared to what they were 50 years ago - WHAT FAMILY ISN'T? But even if there are 10 Italian guys running around in Tampa saying they are Trafficantes and doing illegal shit, who the fuck cares if people come on here to speculate? It's organized crime.

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