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Colorado Shooting #656194
07/20/12 11:23 AM
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Last I heard there were 13 dead and 50 injured as a result of a lunatic opening fire in a movie theatre near denver, showing a midnight screening of the new Batman movie.

My older son came home from work a little after 11pm as I was heading to bed and told me he was going to take a shower and go to a midnight showing of the movie nearby. I woke up around 4 am with ABC News reporting a massacre at the midnight showing of Batman. That made me sit up fast after a second.

The shooting took place about 20 miles from Columbine.

Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: klydon1] #656197
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God, what is happening in America? There are several of we Board members who are old enought to remmeber the days when such things were absolutely rare at best.

As I tell my classes, the Nation's population is expanding tremendously and as it does the components of it, good and bad, are expanding their numbers also. It isn't going to get any better.


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Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: olivant] #656198
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Originally Posted By: olivant
God, what is happening in America? There are several of we Board members who are old enought to remmeber the days when such things were absolutely rare at best.

As I tell my classes, the Nation's population is expanding tremendously and as it does the components of it, good and bad, are expanding their numbers also. It isn't going to get any better.

It's true. Sad, but true.


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Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: pizzaboy] #656210
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A close friend's grandson, who lives in Aurora, had planned to go to that theater last night, but changed his mind at the last moment. Thank God!


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E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
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Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: klydon1] #656222
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What are babies doing at a theater?


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Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: klydon1] #656230
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God help these poor people and their loved ones. This is awful. It must have been like shooting fish in a barrel.

I also heard that his home is booby-trapped and their sending a robot in. They've evacuated all the surrounding residences.


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Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: Sicilian Babe] #656234
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RIP to those who life's have been taken way to soon because of a crazy gunman.

also to fuck celebboutique, the most offensive/disgusting thing to say.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/celebboutique-tweet-colorado-batman-shooting_n_1690308.html

Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: BAM_233] #656236
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A horrible tragedy. For God's sake, can't even go watch a movie without having to worry that some psycho is gonna open fire? frown My heart goes out to all the victims/their families. I can't imagine the loss, not to mention the absolute shock they must be in. frown


TIS


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"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: klydon1] #656253
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My brother-in-law and his family live in Aurora, Colorado. He is a big comic/sci-fi/movie geek and loves Batman. We spoke to him on Monday night and he & his wife were counting the days/hours until the midnight showing of the movie. They both had the day off from work today because they knew they would be up all night with friends discussing the much anticipated movie they would see. At 4:30 this morning Mrs. Mark woke up with a stomach ache and said something was wrong. She got up and went to the living room and I went back to sleep. She soon returned to tell me that the shooting was all over CNN and could not get a hold of her brother or his wife via cell phone. It was pins & needles until about 9:30 this morning when he returned one of my wife's dozen calls & texts. Seems that while they were getting ready to go to the movie last night, their 5 year old started acting up and went into a mini cranky fit (as many kids do). They didn't feel it was right to drop her off at grandma & grandpa's like that so they just cancelled going altogether. They would have been there last night. I am so glad their daughter acted up. I love my wife's brother & his family - he is a great guy, a good dad & devoted husband. Thank God.

Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: klydon1] #656255
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I am happy to hear of your close call Mark. Must have been a tough couple of hours, followed by a great sense of relief. I know that feeling all too well. A horrible, horrible, horrible day.


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Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: Mark] #656256
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Wow, uhwhat I can imagine they are thanking their lucky stars they didn't go. They'll never watch that movie without being reminded of this shooting.

I can imagine how sacred/tense it must have been for you and your wife not hearing back from them. Glad it turned out as it did for them and you.


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TIS


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"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: klydon1] #656257
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The cops should have just shot the sonofabitch dead right there. And saved everyone all the trouble of dealing with him now.


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Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: Mark] #656259
07/20/12 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted By: Mark
Seems that while they were getting ready to go to the movie last night, their 5 year old started acting up and went into a mini cranky fit (as many kids do). They didn't feel it was right to drop her off at grandma & grandpa's like that so they just cancelled going altogether. They would have been there last night.


Now THAT is a freaky story!! I'm glad it ended as it did (for your family).


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Originally Posted By: Mark
My brother-in-law and his family live in Aurora, Colorado. He is a big comic/sci-fi/movie geek and loves Batman. We spoke to him on Monday night and he & his wife were counting the days/hours until the midnight showing of the movie. They both had the day off from work today because they knew they would be up all night with friends discussing the much anticipated movie they would see. At 4:30 this morning Mrs. Mark woke up with a stomach ache and said something was wrong. She got up and went to the living room and I went back to sleep. She soon returned to tell me that the shooting was all over CNN and could not get a hold of her brother or his wife via cell phone. It was pins & needles until about 9:30 this morning when he returned one of my wife's dozen calls & texts. Seems that while they were getting ready to go to the movie last night, their 5 year old started acting up and went into a mini cranky fit (as many kids do). They didn't feel it was right to drop her off at grandma & grandpa's like that so they just cancelled going altogether. They would have been there last night. I am so glad their daughter acted up. I love my wife's brother & his family - he is a great guy, a good dad & devoted husband. Thank God.


damn, that is lucky. sadly it reminds me of the young woman who avoided the mall shooting in toronto because she had the instinct of getting fresh air a couple mins before the shooting...just sad that her life ended last night.

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Quote:

damn, that is lucky. sadly it reminds me of the young woman who avoided the mall shooting in toronto because she had the instinct of getting fresh air a couple mins before the shooting...just sad that her life ended last night.


For those who don't know of her story, I recommend you read her blog entry as posted here, your heart will break.
Jessica Ghawi

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I say all the time that every moment we have to live our life is a blessing. So often I have found myself taking it for granted. Every hug from a family member. Every laugh we share with friends. Even the times of solitude are all blessings. Every second of every day is a gift. After Saturday evening, I know I truly understand how blessed I am for each second I am given.

Rest In Peace to the 12 Victims


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Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: klydon1] #656263
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Horrible horrible tragedy, I cannot imagine what the families of the affected are going through. frown

RIP

Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: klydon1] #656270
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I truly believe that we are often given a chance. Whether it's a guardian angel, a sixth sense, whatever, sometimes we need to pay more attention to the little voice inside of us that can often save us. For some reason, Jessica was spared in Toronto only to meet this fate.

We had a similar survival story locally. A Brinks guard survived being critically wounded during an armored car robbery back in 1981. 20 years later, he was killed during the September 11th attack on the World Trade Center.


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Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: klydon1] #656273
07/20/12 10:58 PM
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SB- I heard that earlier today about the girl being in Toronto and what happened last night in Colorado. That's pretty crazy and sad as well


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Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: klydon1] #656285
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Mark, I can't imagine how relieved you and your wife are. Your BIL must feel like they almost stepped into an empty elevator shaft. Glad to hear a good story out of this. Give your niece an extra hug next time you see her and tell her thanks for being a bit of a brat!


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Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: Mark] #656288
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Originally Posted By: Mark
My brother-in-law and his family live in Aurora, Colorado. He is a big comic/sci-fi/movie geek and loves Batman. We spoke to him on Monday night and he & his wife were counting the days/hours until the midnight showing of the movie. They both had the day off from work today because they knew they would be up all night with friends discussing the much anticipated movie they would see. At 4:30 this morning Mrs. Mark woke up with a stomach ache and said something was wrong. She got up and went to the living room and I went back to sleep. She soon returned to tell me that the shooting was all over CNN and could not get a hold of her brother or his wife via cell phone. It was pins & needles until about 9:30 this morning when he returned one of my wife's dozen calls & texts. Seems that while they were getting ready to go to the movie last night, their 5 year old started acting up and went into a mini cranky fit (as many kids do). They didn't feel it was right to drop her off at grandma & grandpa's like that so they just cancelled going altogether. They would have been there last night. I am so glad their daughter acted up. I love my wife's brother & his family - he is a great guy, a good dad & devoted husband. Thank God.
wow , talk about your ultimate close call . God bless man ..

Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: olivant] #656290
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Originally Posted By: olivant
What are babies doing at a theater?



I found that a bit unusual too.

Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: klydon1] #656307
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Thanks for the kind words, all. Much appreciated. We have a gal here in town that survived the NIU February 14, 2008 shooting and she says it was just like it happened yesterday. Every time things like Colorado happens, she says she relives her experience all over again. frown

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Illinois_University_shooting

Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: IvyLeague] #656313
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
The cops should have just shot the sonofabitch dead right there. And saved everyone all the trouble of dealing with him now.


If so, we'd have possibly lost the lives of policemen and residents when the cops would have entered his booby trapped apartment.

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Originally Posted By: klydon1
Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
The cops should have just shot the sonofabitch dead right there. And saved everyone all the trouble of dealing with him now.


If so, we'd have possibly lost the lives of policemen and residents when the cops would have entered his booby trapped apartment.


In addition, the only information we have is provided to us through the media. The only information that the media has is provided to it through law enforcement. Given the number of people who are accused and found not-guilty and the number of people who are accused, found guilty, and then determined to be innocent through efforts such as those of the Innocence Project, we don't need the lynch mob mentality previously manifested on this Board.


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Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: olivant] #656317
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I'm hearing this morning that Holmes is not talking and they still don't have any motive as to why he did what he did.

Then, his booby trapped apartment?? What's that all about I wonder?

confused

TIS


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Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #656322
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Then, his booby trapped apartment?? What's that all about I wonder?

In case he was killed at the movie theatre, he got to take a few more people with him from "beyond the grave." That's the mentality we're dealing with here.

I respect Klyd and Oli immensely (even though we have a lot of fun here at each other's expense), but I can see where Ivy is coming from here. I don't care if it turns out that this scumbag had a rough childhood (and by all accounts, he didn't), or if he couldn't get a fucking prom date because he was socially inept. And of course I'm all for due process, but the world is better off without this mutt in it. Convict him, then kill him.

Just my two cents.


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Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: BAM_233] #656323
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Originally Posted By: BAM_233
damn, that is lucky. sadly it reminds me of the young woman who avoided the mall shooting in toronto because she had the instinct of getting fresh air a couple mins before the shooting...just sad that her life ended last night.


How did she die?


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Sonny,

As I understand it, this young girl escaped murder in Canada, only to get killed in the Colorado shooting. frown

PB,

Tho I understand the hate/sentiment regarding Holmes, I am not for vigilante type justice. What IF several other ppl thinking they were helping, opened fire and MORE innocent ppl got shot? confused I LOVE Rambo, but only in the movies.

smile
TIS

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Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #656334
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Sonny,

As I understand it, this young girl escaped murder in Canada, only to get killed in the Colorado shooting. frown


What are the odds? uhwhat And what was she doing in Colorado in the first place?


"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
Re: Colorado Shooting [Re: klydon1] #656339
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What I want to know is when this country is going to pass some serious gun control. Why is it possible to still buy an AK whatever? What is this possibly used for except to murder other human beings? Don't tell me an automatic weapon of this type is necessary for home protection or hunting. It's vile that you can legally purchase a machine that's only purpose is to supply the ability to murder as many people as possible in as short a time as possible.

This lunatic was able to stockpile four weapons and 6,000 rounds of ammunition within a rather short amount of time without sounding any alarms in this country. You can't convince me that there is any reason why any of that is legal.

4 weapons. 6,000 rounds of ammunition. Full body armor. And this bastard didn't break one law until he shot at his human beings.


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