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Re: Patriarca [Re: Scorsese] #656755
07/24/12 02:16 PM
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The dominicans is as bad as the mexicans and the columbians they got the pipeline all over....the italians os not supposed to deal in drugs anyway so they ties is not going be that strong of any as you see in rossetti scenerio ....the dominicans base income os drugs along with insurance scams forgery and human trafficking but not as strong or politically connected like the mob just the revenue in drugs is so much that it counters with the quantity of drugs trafficking. To me the mexicans dominicans are big in drugs and cartels but thats it now the mob has all aspect to munipulate ..the law politics gambling casino the list goes on its just the mob gets tarnished by the rats and is more of a focus due to their impact in america and the world


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #656786
07/24/12 03:54 PM
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so the feds wouldnt put rosetti in witsec when he gets sentence in state court he getting with his record 15yrs hard time and he got more cases the fbi does want to go nere this guys its whitey in 2010 licence to kill this guy is a bad mofo with a huge nuts crew he didnt give up the bodies so i guess the boston mob will go on. bobby deluca was smart to flip cause all he has to tell on is his dealings with whitey. old italians love the dope im sure mark was coping buddles for cheap for all his old junkie friends and domincans got the fire. he's going right to p.c. when he goes to mci walpole. the feds really screwed him.

Re: Patriarca [Re: pmac] #656800
07/24/12 04:33 PM
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Who exactly did he give up? I've seen pics of him and the dominican in the courtroom and they seem to be on good terms speaking smiling with each other so it might not be as big a deal that he was an informant. i forgot he was a heroin addict, ill give him credit though guy stuck with the dope game, violence and can hang with the younger more ruthless generation of gangsters like the dominicans. A lot of capos seem to keep themselves out of those situations especially being so hands on with drug dealing like that.

Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #656824
07/24/12 05:00 PM
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for all we know the feds will put mark on the stand and thus not charge him on any federal stuff...its still too early to tell what their ultimate plans are IMO

deluca was also set to testify against a bunch of the admin of the family as evidenced by the wiretap transcripts that were released by the feds but they all cut plea deals


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Re: Patriarca [Re: Dapper_Don] #656827
07/24/12 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
for all we know the feds will put mark on the stand and thus not charge him on any federal stuff...its still too early to tell what their ultimate plans are IMO

+1

I don't follow modern day Boston all that closely, but once the Feds have a witness they own him. And if you think they're done with him, you're crazy. Of course he could tell the Feds to fuck off, but at that point they'll just charge him with anything they want.


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Re: Patriarca [Re: Dapper_Don] #656828
07/24/12 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
for all we know the feds will put mark on the stand and thus not charge him on any federal stuff...its still too early to tell what their ultimate plans are IMO

deluca was also set to testify against a bunch of the admin of the family as evidenced by the wiretap transcripts that were released by the feds but they all cut plea deals
good point! we have to wait until court to see what they are really planning, and even then it can change real quick if something else comes to light.


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Re: Patriarca [Re: Dapper_Don] #656959
07/25/12 12:17 AM
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Where did you jear deluca was going to testify against the administration and what makes you think hes going to rat on whitey I meandont get me wrong there was a lot of indictments since tbey say he skippes town but why do 12 then rat when u get bounced all the way up but the again he was on salemme side


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #656972
07/25/12 01:30 AM
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when rosetti gets sentenced in mass state court no federal judge can give him a deal only a governer pardon, look it up lawyers.state police and fbi hate eatch other in this state its well docu.i think rosetti regrets the deal he made, his whole family lives in a 1 mile block. he is frankie five angels, the guy been locked up up over 2 yrs there would have a bunch of indicments if he was tslking never mind howie carr writting about tax payers money down the river on the fbi expence like whitey no way. mitt and obamma both from boston its fucked up.

Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #657644
07/28/12 06:57 PM
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see they gave rossetti 7 to 9 and he got more state cases coming up if he's smart and i think he is he'll plead out to all his state cases concurrently maybe 10 to 12 the feds arnt coming to his rescue he was a greg scarpa around boston they want to tuck him away in some prison out of state cause every white guy in the joint wants to stick him his lawyer asked the judge to send him directly to a p.c. prison, he cant give up frank salemmi he roled already. if he knew where any of the gardner art museum shit was he might of had a deal, they dug up some guys yard in ct found nuttin people think whitey might have told them.its a mess up here. the philly fam gotta have one c.i. seems every family does.

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Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #657662
07/28/12 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted By: Joerusso
Where did you jear deluca was going to testify against the administration and what makes you think hes going to rat on whitey I meandont get me wrong there was a lot of indictments since tbey say he skippes town but why do 12 then rat when u get bounced all the way up but the again he was on salemme side


if you read the indictments from the big mob roundup in new england it was deluca who was wearing the wire against the guys on the street, when it was revealed that he had been whisked away into wpp it was reported he was going to testify against bulger, apparently when deluca went away for that long stretch it was due to some evidence from bulger so this might be some kind of payback

heres some articles and videos i suggest you read/view:

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/11/new-england-capo-robert-bobby-deluca.html

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/10/rumors-circulate-over-dissapearance-of.html

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2012/03/mystery-mobster-cooperated-and-wore.html

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2012/03/more-details-revealed-on-secret-fbi.html

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/10/fall-of-rhode-island-mob-and-new-boss.html

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2012/04/feds-reveal-mob-associate-is-close-to.html

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2012/05/new-england-mafia-shell-of-former-self.html

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2012/04/mob-case-heading-for-may-trial.html

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/11/court-filing-reveals-sheer-volume-of.html

Last edited by Dapper_Don; 07/28/12 11:19 PM.

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Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #657690
07/29/12 08:50 AM
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You're witnessing the end of made guys working together. The guys still around are far better off working with independent guys off the radar. Boston is a mess-two Italians can't have dinner without an indictment. Nobody wants the reins-it's a guarantee to get jammed up.


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Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #657714
07/29/12 12:41 PM
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I agree sittite. I mean how many times now do you hear guys turning down the chance to be made and stay as associates instead. That would of never happened back in the day guys would do anything to be made.

Re: Patriarca [Re: Dapper_Don] #657774
07/29/12 06:22 PM
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i never said he wasnt just want to make sure and i read all those links before and thank you for good info but like i said its seems but not sure ..... yes his initials are the informers initials ,yes hes not name in one indictments , yes only a high ranking guy like deluca can know all that but..... why would he do twelve get bumbed than rat the way he did i dont get it ....its never mentioned but his uncle vito deluca is a made guy in sicily n in prov know he going nuts right now ..., im just saying and besides if he does rat right the good thing is he hasnt been out that long to know to much like rossetti did and mentioning that rat fuck no wonder his cousin is doing 44 plus and a bunch of others boston area guys doing big numbers motherfuckr been ratting during every regime damn near


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #657778
07/29/12 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted By: Joerusso
i never said he wasnt just want to make sure and i read all those links before and thank you for good info but like i said its seems but not sure ..... yes his initials are the informers initials ,yes hes not name in one indictments , yes only a high ranking guy like deluca can know all that but..... why would he do twelve get bumbed than rat the way he did i dont get it ....its never mentioned but his uncle vito deluca is a made guy in sicily n in prov know he going nuts right now ..., im just saying and besides if he does rat right the good thing is he hasnt been out that long to know to much like rossetti did and mentioning that rat fuck no wonder his cousin is doing 44 plus and a bunch of others boston area guys doing big numbers motherfuckr been ratting during every regime damn near


I remember when it came out he turned I thought the same thing, and one logical conclusion is that after he came out the feds approached him with some evidence (they probably obtained from mark rossetti) and threatened to send bobby back to jail for a very long time (who knows maybe on some old murder charge) and then he agreed to cooperate. Hopefully Whitey Bulger lives and is brought to trial and DeLuca is put on the stand and it can clear up some stuff.


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Patriarca [Re: Dapper_Don] #658430
08/03/12 01:35 PM
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how about when the trial comes and its not bobby thats on the stand and the providence kids trial is coming i believe THATS what im waiting thats whats going to make or break this rumor/statement.


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #658573
08/03/12 10:45 PM
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I do believe Dapper is correct... The feds want Bobby's help w Whitey. I'm sure w Mark being CI they have lots on old Bobby D.


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Re: Patriarca [Re: sittite] #658574
08/03/12 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: sittite
I do believe Dapper is correct... The feds want Bobby's help w Whitey. I'm sure w Mark being CI they have lots on old Bobby D.


Thanks, its just an educated guess I have come to since this is the course the feds are most likely to take in these type of cases. But we will have to wait and see (I hate waiting).


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Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #658586
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i'll go out on a lamb but patriarca jr. is the only once official boss in the 80tys alive in well. he was groomed like jurnior gotti. the judge did say he coulndt lead a browny scout. but just think of who he met.this guy got books.he'll died with them. only other maybe tommy gambino carlo's son.

Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #658671
08/04/12 12:15 PM
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Jr's "authority" was challenged from the get go...I wouldn't really classify him as an 80's boss. It would be pretty difficult to be a boss 30 yrs ago of a major family and be alive and well now.


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Re: JR [Re: Joerusso] #658992
08/06/12 12:14 PM
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Joe, why all the questions? Do you know anyone 'on the street?' What do they say (if you know anyone)?

btw, We should know each other from the old days.

oops, I thought you were my old pal J.R. from the old days. Then I saw you asked about Joe JR R. Sorry.

Last edited by Vinny_Jackson; 08/06/12 12:21 PM.

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Re: JR [Re: Vinny_Jackson] #659083
08/06/12 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted By: Vinny_Jackson
Joe, why all the questions? Do you know anyone 'on the street?' What do they say (if you know anyone)?

btw, We should know each other from the old days.

oops, I thought you were my old pal J.R. from the old days. Then I saw you asked about Joe JR R. Sorry.


welcome to the boards! good to see somebody from the new england area

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Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: JR [Re: Dapper_Don] #659242
08/07/12 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Originally Posted By: Vinny_Jackson
Joe, why all the questions? Do you know anyone 'on the street?' What do they say (if you know anyone)?

btw, We should know each other from the old days.

oops, I thought you were my old pal J.R. from the old days. Then I saw you asked about Joe JR R. Sorry.


welcome to the boards! good to see somebody from the new england area


thanks.


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Re: JR [Re: Dapper_Don] #659451
08/09/12 09:39 PM
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lets just say i was brn and raised near the marconi club way before rat fuck flemmi was ever going there and my uncle and grandfather been a member of the soccer socail club in north end since forever


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Patriarca [Re: sittite] #659453
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asnd partriaca jr was over powered by favorite mobster who i mentioned jr russo capo that killed rat fuck barbosa and made jr cry and promised to wack him if he didnt step down thats when bianco became boss russo congliere and so forth russo also worked for the varios in the 50 and sent to new york with bianco for the colombo wars lol my man russo was a pure gangster


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #659534
08/10/12 04:03 PM
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I don't think patriarca jr, had his old man's saavy and flair. I remember growing up in New England and how well he ran things in comparison to what happened. Angiullo wasn't a great underboss, but was a hell of a earner...

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i think when ray sr. died 84 the commission all five bosses when big paul was still alive+ fat tony and the rest made him boss in 84. didnt seem like there was trouble to 87 when all the old bosses got life and gotti was starting to screw up all the families. i never believed he cried were did that romour start, i believe there was a meeting to step down probaly happend after they found out the induction was recored,but i go with nervous not crying thats somones b.s. or jeolous. i know he's not active he still goes to all the funerals of the old guys, he didnt pull a jurnior gotti and go on 60min, just did his time and walked away quietly.he will go down as the don that couldnt lead a brownie scout. but he must be mega rich.

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Re: Patriarca [Re: pmac] #659926
08/13/12 11:49 AM
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Look up johnnu castagna or sonny castagna and u see he was at the meeting between jr russo on junior and couple others and see how he was crying after he was told step down or get wacked cause we got the ok from the commision its crazy but true.


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #659927
08/13/12 11:54 AM
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Yea thats his name johnny sonny castagna and his son jacky john


raymond l.s.patrairca sr to u.s. state committee- " if i didnt have my case coming up ill to come back in here with two gentlemen and when this is over with and really lay down the law, yous guys been giving me nothing but alot of hookwhick and i wish i wasnt on trial and have this case and really tell the united states whats going on "
Jerry Anguilo on wartime with winter hill - " If we got to war we got Joe Russo and the maverick boys so we have nothing to worry about they can go to vietnam and come back untouched "
Re: Patriarca [Re: Joerusso] #659955
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it goes back to gossip father and son both from hartford neither were made guys why would they be at a meeting with a boss and the guys from boston it doesnt make sense, i believe there was a meeting and sammy the bull told the fbi boston guys went to a wedding and gotti said no shooting. so will never know.

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To all the people that are talking about Ray Jr on this board, saying that he cried that is a joke!!!!!!!!!!! you people are just jealous. I have noticed that most of you people on this board knock certain people from Rhode Island, because you know you can't shine their shoe's. Get your facts straight people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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