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Re: shouldnt Eric Holder be held in contempt? [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #653793
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Holder is a racist and very much anti-American. One of the biggest libs. Makes hippies look not that lib.

Re: shouldnt Eric Holder be held in contempt? [Re: NJBoy55] #653920
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Originally Posted By: NJBoy55
Holder is a racist and very much anti-American. One of the biggest libs. Makes hippies look not that lib.


How is he racist and anti-American? Please share your rationale.

One of the major reasons the Republicans are going after Holder is because the DOJ is suing Florida over its improper removal of American citizens (minorities) from the voter rolls and its blatant disregard for the Voting Rights act.


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Re: shouldnt Eric Holder be held in contempt? [Re: Dapper_Don] #653922
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I dont believe hes a racist but i do believe he thinks hes above the law.I mean i was pysically sick watching him respond to the republicans they way he did yesterday as if he did nothing wrong. If he didnt do anything wrong the president wouldnt have had to bail him out. And im a democrat!

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Re: shouldnt Eric Holder be held in contempt? [Re: southphilly old head] #653924
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You're exceptional ability to determine what people think is truly remarkable. However, you may wish to educate yourself about the hegemony that Presidents and Congresses try to exert over each other (as well as Executive Priviledge) I suggest you start by consulting the Congressional Research Service. Then read a couple of books, both of which I think I've already suggested you read: Empire of Liberty and Catherine Bowne's Miracle at Philadelphia .


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Re: shouldnt Eric Holder be held in contempt? [Re: olivant] #653926
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Re: shouldnt Eric Holder be held in contempt? [Re: southphilly old head] #653927
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anybody else they would investigate and fiercly, Wouldnt that be a kick in the ass if he uses the race card cause the republicans are going after him

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Re: shouldnt Eric Holder be held in contempt? [Re: southphilly old head] #654109
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Guys. Holder always referred to blacks as his people, revealing that his race is number one and being American second. He dropped the case against the black panthers who used brutality towards white voters by making them vote obame in our last election. What about using the race card after the Trayvon Martin shooting? He's prejudice and it shows.

Re: shouldnt Eric Holder be held in contempt? [Re: NJBoy55] #654117
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Originally Posted By: NJBoy55
Guys. Holder always referred to blacks as his people, revealing that his race is number one and being American second. He dropped the case against the black panthers who used brutality towards white voters by making them vote obame in our last election. What about using the race card after the Trayvon Martin shooting? He's prejudice and it shows.


Hmm. The decision not to charge the New Black Panther Party members was initially made under the Bush Administration, not the Obama Administration. No one was making any white people vote for Obama. No voter ever said they were intimidated or forced to vote for someone. Amazing that Republicans are suddenly interested in civil rights voting cases.

I do not know Attorney General Holder and am not in his social circle, and I would be surprised if anyone else here is. So I don't know that he *always* refers to blacks as his people. What I do know is that is when he was explaining that the New Black Panther case was not comparable to centuries of voter discrimination against Black people in the south, he said this:

"When you compare what people endured in the South in the 60s to try to get the right to vote for African Americans, to compare what people subjected to that with what happened in Philadelphia, which was inappropriate....to describe it in those terms I think does a great disservice to people who put their lives on the line for my people."
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/plum-line/2011/03/testifying_before_a_house_appr.html

Now I don't see how a fair minded person, regardless of his or her politics could think that is racist but life is full of surprises.

Scarcely a month goes by without some white conservative/Republican/Tea Party person somewhere making insulting or offensive remarks about Black people or comparing the President and his wife or children to animals and so on. Of course when their "jokes" leak out they indignantly claim they're not racist, no not them. rolleyes

It's revealing that conservatives accuse Holder and by extension Obama of putting black people first. Believe me that is so not the perception in other (reality based) communities. I wonder if people also think that all the previous white presidents and attorney generals put white people first?

When Holder is on tape talking about the inferiority of whites or bragging about how he discriminates against whites then perhaps there is something to discuss. Until then this seems like classic projection and over-compensation.


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Re: shouldnt Eric Holder be held in contempt? [Re: southphilly old head] #654125
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I didn't pay attention to news for a few days because they kept stalling everything with him, I'll look up the shit, so I'm assuming he was never held in contempt of court ? ?


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Re: shouldnt Eric Holder be held in contempt? [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #654127
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The House voted a contempt citation upon the recommendatiopnof its ovesight committee. However, the Justice Department will not prosecute it.


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Re: shouldnt Eric Holder be held in contempt? [Re: Lilo] #654132
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Originally Posted By: Lilo
Originally Posted By: NJBoy55
Guys. Holder always referred to blacks as his people, revealing that his race is number one and being American second. He dropped the case against the black panthers who used brutality towards white voters by making them vote obame in our last election. What about using the race card after the Trayvon Martin shooting? He's prejudice and it shows.


Hmm. The decision not to charge the New Black Panther Party members was initially made under the Bush Administration, not the Obama Administration. No one was making any white people vote for Obama. No voter ever said they were intimidated or forced to vote for someone. Amazing that Republicans are suddenly interested in civil rights voting cases.



Exactly. The initial investigation was conducted by the Chicago Police Department on election day which was November 4, 2008 which was 75 days before the end of the Bush Administration and Michael Mukaskey's tenure as Attorney General. The police found no basis to even issue a citation.


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Re: shouldnt Eric Holder be held in contempt? [Re: olivant] #654137
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Originally Posted By: olivant
Originally Posted By: Lilo
Originally Posted By: NJBoy55
Guys. Holder always referred to blacks as his people, revealing that his race is number one and being American second. He dropped the case against the black panthers who used brutality towards white voters by making them vote obame in our last election. What about using the race card after the Trayvon Martin shooting? He's prejudice and it shows.


Hmm. The decision not to charge the New Black Panther Party members was initially made under the Bush Administration, not the Obama Administration. No one was making any white people vote for Obama. No voter ever said they were intimidated or forced to vote for someone. Amazing that Republicans are suddenly interested in civil rights voting cases.



Exactly. The initial investigation was conducted by the Chicago Police Department on election day which was November 4, 2008 which was 75 days before the end of the Bush Administration and Michael Mukaskey's tenure as Attorney General. The police found no basis to even issue a citation.


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Originally Posted By: olivant
You're exceptional ability to determine what people think is truly remarkable. However, you may wish to educate yourself about the hegemony that Presidents and Congresses try to exert over each other (as well as Executive Priviledge) I suggest you start by consulting the Congressional Research Service. Then read a couple of books, both of which I think I've already suggested you read: Empire of Liberty and Catherine Bowne's Miracle at Philadelphia .




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Re: shouldnt Eric Holder be held in contempt? [Re: olivant] #654144
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Id rather not read about past history and the battles between the two and debate the issue at hand!! The man i would excuse for political reasons if he didnt lie and then say that he might of had knowledge a year before lieing that he had NO KNOWLEDGE of fast and furious!!!Say what you want he should of did a no comment instead of LIEING!!! If you accept getting lied to than thats your right but i dont and im sure the majority of americans dont! lets face it he did get caught lieing and thats the bottom line....

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Re: shouldnt Eric Holder be held in contempt? [Re: southphilly old head] #654384
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This fella has more excuses than my 12 year old...

Misdirection and deception seem to go hand in hand with the last few AGs.

Eric?

Perhaps you are being 'attacked' by Republicans, but only because you opened the door with your complete lack of honesty and your complete embracing of evasion!

I have NO Party Affiliation (Read: Affliction) and certainly no love for the current incarnations of the GOP or the DNC.

I do, however, have extreme distrust for the current AG and his far-less-than-transparent boss.





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