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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: gamms] #686039
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yeah i think unless my time tables fucked up.

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Could be! He was the decision maker till the mid 80's, however i have no idea when Scarfo became boss?


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So where are they at with the trial? Just closing arguments and then it goes to the jury? Think we'll get a verdict next week?

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He was working in a sicilian pizza parlor down in Maryland when they got him,it was connected.

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Originally Posted By: EastHarlemItal
When you mention panel was it Chin, Tony, Funzi and Eggs? Or was it the commision? How was the book anyway?


Eggs wasn't on the panel it was the chin, fat tony, and bobby manna. Eggs was across the street at some social club across from the triangle ...I've read a lot of the philly books or have heard a lot of the stuff before such as the killings and whatnot..I'm not finished with it I'm about halfway thru the book...its alright so far..


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Originally Posted By: 22
He was working in a sicilian pizza parlor down in Maryland when they got him,it was connected.


Who Stanfa? He was being hidden by the Gambino's in Maryland and he was working at a pizza restaurant called Luciano's Pizza down in Landover MD that was owned by Emanuel "Matty" Gambino. Matty Gambino's sister Vittoria is John Gambino's wife.


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You should really get all the facts straight before you make remarks. Reading Anastasia's blog dosnt give you enough info to formulate the whole outlook.
For example: he wrote: scoops was discussing unsolved murders on the stephanelie tapes. Not true. The government introduced that lie to keep him from getting released on bail. Everything the government has claimed to have they don't and haven't been able to prove any claims.
How is the governed going to establish their closing arguments if they haven't proven anything in the Last 10 weeks? They brought 30 witnesses to the stand and Eddie Jacobs picked apart one by one off the stand.
Even the government knows they have lost their case. That's why they laugh and joke with the defense in court. NOT GUILTY!!!!! PS being in the mafia is not illegal.

Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: phillybella25] #686210
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Originally Posted By: phillybella25

You should really get all the facts straight before you make remarks. Reading Anastasia's blog dosnt give you enough info to formulate the whole outlook.
For example: he wrote: scoops was discussing unsolved murders on the stephanelie tapes. Not true. The government introduced that lie to keep him from getting released on bail. Everything the government has claimed to have they don't and haven't been able to prove any claims.
How is the governed going to establish their closing arguments if they haven't proven anything in the Last 10 weeks? They brought 30 witnesses to the stand and Eddie Jacobs picked apart one by one off the stand.
Even the government knows they have lost their case. That's why they laugh and joke with the defense in court. NOT GUILTY!!!!! PS being in the mafia is not illegal.


I know cops and prosecutors lie. I just don't think its a good idea to mock them in court then they'll make up even more shit.


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: phillybella25] #686213
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Originally Posted By: phillybella25

You should really get all the facts straight before you make remarks. Reading Anastasia's blog dosnt give you enough info to formulate the whole outlook.
For example: he wrote: scoops was discussing unsolved murders on the stephanelie tapes. Not true. The government introduced that lie to keep him from getting released on bail. Everything the government has claimed to have they don't and haven't been able to prove any claims.
How is the governed going to establish their closing arguments if they haven't proven anything in the Last 10 weeks? They brought 30 witnesses to the stand and Eddie Jacobs picked apart one by one off the stand.
Even the government knows they have lost their case. That's why they laugh and joke with the defense in court. NOT GUILTY!!!!! PS being in the mafia is not illegal.


scoops is on the tapes discussing the unsolved murder of johnny gongs where he states to ligambi (who laughs) that he is glad they (the family) finally got rid of him


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
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He was working in a sicilian pizza parlor down in Maryland when they got him,it was connected.


Who Stanfa? He was being hidden by the Gambino's in Maryland and he was working at a pizza restaurant called Luciano's Pizza down in Landover MD that was owned by Emanuel "Matty" Gambino. Matty Gambino's sister Vittoria is John Gambino's wife.



Stanfa's son reopened the old spot where the chang hit went down..seems to be doing alright for himself


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Hey my man i had family in the numbers game.My old man cused,drank every nite,Vietnam vet... but my old man always reminded me of being Italian n Roman Catholic..Never steal,Dont lie,push weaker people around{somethingthemafiadoes!}<Aaa sorry they do..Have you watched any of the 10000 mob movies that are out??.Yea my family seen jail we aint no saints, but stealin from your own people aint cool cause i take issue with at least 5 years of Uncle joe gettin paid by the trash company..OK i give him the first 5 years cause of the 3 contracts he got for them..But he gotta repay the last 5years i see it..But commin from another union guy who is takeing a bad hit for the last two years no no way..Find a job Uncle Grandpophommie..! how did his 1 kid go to college in flordia2yrs and villanova4yrs.. must be nice...If the kid is a ligatimate scollar im so sorry..You should see Grandpopligambi kids myspace page...HaHa..HE showed a video of a hit man takeing money from this woman..Now the guy was gonna kill her husband..Typical...These guys are only lookin for sumthin for freee..

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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: marine] #686235
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Originally Posted By: marine
Hey my man i had family in the numbers game.My old man cused,drank every nite,Vietnam vet... but my old man always reminded me of being Italian n Roman Catholic..Never steal,Dont lie,push weaker people around{somethingthemafiadoes!}<Aaa sorry they do..Have you watched any of the 10000 mob movies that are out??.Yea my family seen jail we aint no saints, but stealin from your own people aint cool cause i take issue with at least 5 years of Uncle joe gettin paid by the trash company..OK i give him the first 5 years cause of the 3 contracts he got for them..But he gotta repay the last 5years i see it..But commin from another union guy who is takeing a bad hit for the last two years no no way..Find a job Uncle Grandpophommie..! how did his 1 kid go to college in flordia2yrs and villanova4yrs.. must be nice...If the kid is a ligatimate scollar im so sorry..You should see Grandpopligambi kids myspace page...HaHa..HE showed a video of a hit man takeing money from this woman..Now the guy was gonna kill her husband..Typical...These guys are only lookin for sumthin for freee..


Its funny that Joe agreed to an interview with Philadelphia Magazine and the reporter outs him like what did he think the kid was going to write "Me and Joe enjoyed pizza hes just a guy from South Phila...that works at a trash company..


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: marine] #686237
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Originally Posted By: marine
Hey my man i had family in the numbers game.My old man cused,drank every nite,Vietnam vet... but my old man always reminded me of being Italian n Roman Catholic..Never steal,Dont lie,push weaker people around{somethingthemafiadoes!}<Aaa sorry they do..Have you watched any of the 10000 mob movies that are out??.Yea my family seen jail we aint no saints, but stealin from your own people aint cool cause i take issue with at least 5 years of Uncle joe gettin paid by the trash company..OK i give him the first 5 years cause of the 3 contracts he got for them..But he gotta repay the last 5years i see it..But commin from another union guy who is takeing a bad hit for the last two years no no way..Find a job Uncle Grandpophommie..! how did his 1 kid go to college in flordia2yrs and villanova4yrs.. must be nice...If the kid is a ligatimate scollar im so sorry..You should see Grandpopligambi kids myspace page...HaHa..HE showed a video of a hit man takeing money from this woman..Now the guy was gonna kill her husband..Typical...These guys are only lookin for sumthin for freee..


Have you seen a Proper Violence there was a screening for it awhile ago by steve ligambi


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: Dapper_Don] #686265
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See Dap that's where you are 100% wrong! The Prosecution enhanced that tape and that's not what Scoops said...he said, I'm glad we all finally got together...(For dinner) The Prosecution knew the truth but still went in front of a grand jury and lied so Scoops didn't get bail. And thats the truth. See how the government plays dirty.. Now how many times did Anastaisa report on this tape? Probably 25-30 times. Now how many times did Anastasia report what the tape really said?? ZERO!! See how the government controls the media! Now if he went on TV and reported 25-30 times on how the government lied about what was on the tape then you guys would have very different opinions. Anastasia recently stated in one of his blogs that Kabini Savage was more of a gangster then Joe Ligambi....when did killing kids become gangster George???

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The tapes are posted in an earlier page on this thread if anyone wants to listen to them and decide for themselves what licata is saying.


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti


Have you seen a Proper Violence there was a screening for it awhile ago by steve ligambi


Did you see it? Any good?

On IMDB i don't see Ligambi listed as an actor in it, just an associate producer.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1668027/fullcredits

Have you seen any of Ligambi's other work? Goat has a few decent people in it including Armand Assante and Cathy Moriarty. Looks like Steve Ligambi has a small part in it. You ever see it?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1598172/fullcredits#cast

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Dap the tapes were enhanced by the prosecution. That's why it wasn't mentioned in the case.

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Originally Posted By: Southphilly13
Dap the tapes were enhanced by the prosecution. That's why it wasn't mentioned in the case.


You cant enhance the actual recording which can be listened to in its raw form, lets be serious here. Stop drinking the kool-aid the defense has been passing around. We all know who these guys are.

I am not discussing this case anymore barring any significant development until a verdict comes in early next year. Not because of you,I am tired of rehashing all this stuff over and over again, it has already been discussed on this board tons of times and my view on this case is already known.

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No i never seen it.. but thanks it looks cool.. i did just google it and there was a 2 minute 15 second preview of it..That looks like one crazy camping trip were you dont know who gonna kill who..Might be a deceant movie where it got you on the edge of your seat..I guess joes kid was the crazy guy wit the shotgun.?Yea i gotta look more into this movie..Gotta be better than watchin the eagles halftime just started..

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I'm very happy to hear that you won't be commenting on a case that you know so little about. The defense and I appreciate it. LMAO!! That kool-aid line was great, how long have you been waiting to use that one!

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Originally Posted By: Southphilly13
I'm very happy to hear that you won't be commenting on a case that you know so little about. The defense and I appreciate it. LMAO!! That kool-aid line was great, how long have you been waiting to use that one!


Know so little about? Lol, if that lie helps you sleep at night then so be it.

I must admit one thing though, all you Philly fanboys sure are relentless in your belief that these guys are innocent. It proves that Kool-Aid which I mentioned must be really good. But to each his own.

Bottom line is I don't care if they beat this case or not, and if they do beat this its only a matter of time before they are brought to court again on other charges.


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Agree ! even if they win , if the one guy flips he will really put them all away .

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Originally Posted By: Boardwalkguy
Agree ! even if they win , if the one guy flips he will really put them all away .


Yep, I havent heard any updates on the Nicodemo front. But if he were to flip (if he hasnt already) then I would prefer these guys on trial beat their current case, so I can then re-indict them on much more serious charges (murder, etc) and put a current member on the stand to testify against them. Talk about a rematch that would be.


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lol.how about them eagles.

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^ lol is right the one game tickets were selling for less then face value


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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Originally Posted By: Southphilly13
I'm very happy to hear that you won't be commenting on a case that you know so little about. The defense and I appreciate it. LMAO!! That kool-aid line was great, how long have you been waiting to use that one!


Know so little about? Lol, if that lie helps you sleep at night then so be it.

I must admit one thing though, all you Philly fanboys sure are relentless in your belief that these guys are innocent. It proves that Kool-Aid which I mentioned must be really good. But to each his own.

Bottom line is I don't care if they beat this case or not, and if they do beat this its only a matter of time before they are brought to court again on other charges.



Regardless of what the jury ultimately decides, anyone with an ounce of common sense knows these guys are guilty. There's been enough evidence to convict most of them, at least on the gambling and extortion charges. And it being a RICO case should increase the sentences.

If you listen to the tapes, the approach of the defense has been basically to compare these guys to the Scarfo era. In other words, if they're not as violent as Scarfo was, they can't be that bad and should get off for that alone. rolleyes


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I say Ligambi, Staino and mousie are guilty. Licata walks and damion is 50-50 not sure about the other guy


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George Borgesi at the beginning everyone was pointing the finger at him because of bent finger it was obvious he was going to flip..but the funny thing is that they had ligambi staino and mousie on there company from the get go


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Dap I thought you weren't making any more comments?

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