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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #682972
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
Wow this is great stuff thanks Dap.


I listened to this on my way home from the office, i encourage everybody to take a listen priceless stuff on these tapes, i thank jerryb from the other side for uploading them, he got them from PACER


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: southphilly old head] #682973
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This puts a whole new spin on the inner workings of the Philly Mob. Scarfo guys are active and two New York families have dealings with them. There was a recent article from Capeci about why Philly guys love Steven Crea, what was that about?


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #682977
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
This puts a whole new spin on the inner workings of the Philly Mob. Scarfo guys are active and two New York families have dealings with them. There was a recent article from Capeci about why Philly guys love Steven Crea, what was that about?


apparently crea while he was acting boss and amuso was still official was stalling in making nicky scarfo jr into the lucchese fam,finally amuso sent word from the can to "get it done" and scarfo jr was made as a favor to scarfo sr who was prison buddies with amuso, the philly guys like licata were on the tapes talking about how crea did everything he could to stall it and they respected him for that


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: southphilly old head] #682981
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They don't sound like they liked Nicky Jr. that much. I heard that kid's an idiot and a brat.


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #682985
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
They don't sound like they liked Nicky Jr. that much. I heard that kid's an idiot and a brat.


Jr is a HUGE money maker thats for sure.


Licata was telling this whole story to the Gambinos and was asking the Gambinos for their support in this issue with the Lucchese fam (this was back in 2010) cause the fact they made nicky jr as a favor to nicky sr who was never getting out the can still pissed off the philly fam, licata called amuso a bitch, the gambinos just listened and didnt take sides.


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: southphilly old head] #682987
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From what I gathered listening to the conversation, it sounds like the Gambino's kind of yawned and let the issue resolve itself. Crea was forced to make the kid? He's the boss after all he can make his own decisions.


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: 123JoeSchmo] #682989
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Originally Posted By: 123JoeSchmo
From what I gathered listening to the conversation, it sounds like the Gambino's kind of yawned and let the issue resolve itself. Crea was forced to make the kid? He's the boss after all he can make his own decisions.


well amuso was still the official boss at this point (amuso proposed scarfo jr in 98, he was officially inducted in mid-1999) and crea was just acting

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Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: southphilly old head] #682990
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Oh right. Forgot that Crea was only acting at that point. Got the time period mixed up.


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: southphilly old head] #683001
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Another day the prosecution appeared stupid and without any base for a trial. Between no evidence and Eddie Jacobs skills in court the prosecution has no shot! But what's new in the case? Eddie Jacobs had been on top since opening statements. Scoops should be going home tomorrow after the decision is rendered on the filing of the Rule 29 if not, the judge is on his charade. It should be granted for the Rico too. Special Agent Augustine (they are all special, it's not just a title) testified that nothing on the tapes states that things are going to the top. George Anastasia should have been seated next to the prosecution during this whole trial. Not one of his reports posted indicated that the defense even had one good day. When in fact, the defense never had a bad day since day 1. Like I said from the beginning NOT GUILTY across the board.

Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: southphilly old head] #683034
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dap im having a hard time could you type aliitle more when i down load to much shit happens. i read in mafia prince that philip narducci is the real strong one. i'll keep trying.

Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: southphilly old head] #683037
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i got it, skip over the first one its fat fbi jack its dumb. but part 2 it gets good guess theres more guy for the top spot. grande and narducci its gonna get bad like montreal and scoops is a boss just running the show being fat wit glasses dont mean shit. all the young scarfo guys are running shit i think. wow people hate scarfo sr.

Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: southphilly old head] #683040
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wow this olando kid who took the stand sounds like he's gonna o.d. on the stand, this is classic this kid is high as a kite wow thw d.a. went bottom feeding for this bum its a must listen. not oxy its roxacet same fucking thing . you can do xanys of the stand, i drink 2 nati's eat a xani and im sleeping in the street. kid just stealing getting high now he gets a section 8 voucher and a check for life, nice,

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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: pmac] #683043
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The FBI is so desperate these are the types of people they got on the stand. N this is the main guy against my brother? What a joke. We left court on a Friday n Orlando was suppose to get back on the stand on Tuesday. The DA says oh he went to the hospital n he'll be back on Thursday. He went through withdraw over the weekend. He said he was on 20mg of oyxi something n 10mg of xanix. He picked out Gary wrong 3 times on 2 different days lmfao! He was such good friends with my brother that he called him by the wrong name the whole time he was on the stand. There's nothing funny about this case but this kid was high as shit. I was my ass off at this junkie. He dipped out on the stand. Did u get to the part where we played a tape of him saying he bought a shotgun? They were sick when we played that tape. N ur right he gets to live for free.... Nice!

Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: Southphilly13] #683084
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SP13 do you know if nicodemo had some kind of pill or drug problem because what he is being accused of and the way they found him seems pretty stoopid

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It's about the jury at this point, do they look interested or are they just going through the motions..??

It's really silly they have to listen and hear testamony from things that happened 10, 15 and 20 years ago.

We all know who these guys are and what they do...What does Christmas Party attendance have to do with anything, plus the testimony that one of them got a parking ticket, lol..

If I was a juror I would be pissed they were wasting my time on this...


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Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: azguy] #683100
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Originally Posted By: azguy
It's about the jury at this point, do they look interested or are they just going through the motions..??

It's really silly they have to listen and hear testamony from things that happened 10, 15 and 20 years ago.

We all know who these guys are and what they do...What does Christmas Party attendance have to do with anything, plus the testimony that one of them got a parking ticket, lol..

If I was a juror I would be pissed they were wasting my time on this...


AZ guy you are right taking them away from their jobs, not sure what the federeal jury system could be paying ppl these days but it cant be much

Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: merlino] #683112
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Originally Posted By: merlino
SP13 do you know if nicodemo had some kind of pill or drug problem because what he is being accused of and the way they found him seems pretty stoopid

Why would you ask that? Seems like a random question. IF, and that's a big if, nicodemo had anything to do with this, it could be for any number of possibilities. This hit may not have been sanctioned but that doesn't mean it wasn't planned. The police are looking for one to two other people the story says, who may or may not be involved. Three people sounds like a planned hit, not spur of the moment. This may truly speak to the state of underworld affairs. If he feels like he can do this during a mob trial he is either the stupidest, or ballsiest, person I have ever seen. Either way, we don't know yet what happened.

Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: jmack] #683126
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Originally Posted By: jmack
If he feels like he can do this during a mob trial he is either the stupidest, or ballsiest, person I have ever seen.

Having balls is one thing, but copping a sneak on a guy while your boss is on trial is quite another (if that's what happened). Years ago you'd get dead for something like this. Today they'll probably give the guy a reality show.


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Im going to hold off bashing until we know some more info. This could be a number of different things. It does seem stupid but I am going to wait until we have (if we get) more info. At this point my only emotion is SHOCK.

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Originally Posted By: spmob
Im going to hold off bashing until we know some more info. This could be a number of different things. It does seem stupid but I am going to wait until we have (if we get) more info. At this point my only emotion is SHOCK.

Agreed

Re: are the philly guys gona beat these charges? [Re: pizzaboy] #683132
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Originally Posted By: jmack
If he feels like he can do this during a mob trial he is either the stupidest, or ballsiest, person I have ever seen.

Having balls is one thing, but copping a sneak on a guy while your boss is on trial is quite another (if that's what happened). Years ago you'd get dead for something like this. Today they'll probably give the guy a reality show.

That's exactly what I mean. This would have never happened before 1980 when Bruno was killed. That's the sad shape things are in today.

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A federal judge said he would individually question the 15 jurors in the federal racketeering trial of seven alleged Philadelphia mobsters when court resumes Tuesday to see if they have been exposed to news coverage of this week's apparent mob hit that killed Gino DiPietro.

The shooting of DiPietro, 50, just before 3 p.m. Tuesday in South Philadelphia, brought an element of surprise to the trial of Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi and six underlings as it ended its eighth week of testimony with the conclusion of the federal prosecutors' case.
The jurors were not present in court on Thursday, a day reserved for lawyers for the seven alleged mobsters to argue motions for judgments of acquittal, a usual move once the prosecution's case has ended. U.S. District Judge Eduardo C. Robreno said he would rule on the motions on Tuesday when the trial resumes.

But before judge and lawyers ended Thursday's trial session, Ligambi's lawyer, Edwin Jacobs, brought up the DiPietro killing and how it might affect the trial jury.

Jacobs told Robreno he was worried because DiPietro's name had been mentioned in trial testimony and various media reports were speculating on a link between the shooting and the trial.

"I think it's incumbent upon the court to say something about being exposed to this," Jacobs said.

Despite weeks of testimony, DiPietro's name may very well be familiar to jurors. One of the last wiretapped conversations prosecutors played for the jury involved DiPietro and the speaker the jurors heard was Ligambi co-defendant Damion Canalichio.

It was Robreno who suggested that he call the jurors individually into his chambers as they arrive on Tuesday morning to determine if they knew anything about DiPietro's killing and, if they did, whether they could still fairly consider the evidence against the seven.

Organized-crime expert George Anastasia, a former veteran Inquirer reporter now blogging about the Ligambi trial for the Internet site BigTrial.net, said that if DiPietro's slaying is linked to the Philadelphia mob or any of the seven defendants, it would undercut the defense's theory of the case: a nonviolent, modern organized crime family far removed from the storied days of violence and hitmen.

Anastasia said DiPietro, a convicted drug dealer, was rumored to be cooperating with law enforcement. Philadelphia police are questioning reputed mob soldier, Anthony Nicodemo, 41, about the shooting although Nicodemo has not been charged.
Assuming there are no significant problems arising from jurors exposed to the news reports about the shooting, Robreno said the defense would begin its case late Tuesday morning. Based on the defense lawyers' assessments, Robreno said he expected the defense cases might end as early as Wednesday afternoon.

After the end of testimony, the jurors would hear closing arguments from the prosecution and defense lawyers, get instructions in the law from Robreno and then begin deliberating on a verdict.

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2012/12/judge-to-question-trial-jurors-about.html


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If the mobsters are found guilty in this case, their lawyers can later use the argument of the jury been exposed to this latest news coverage as basis of appeal. This tactic, or similar tactics, has been used before numerous of times by others.


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Can they ask for a mistrial because of this?

And I am ready to say how stupid this is. In philly, you only have to have a plate on the back of your car and not the front like in jersey. At bare minimum use a different plate, get rid of the gun, something....

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Originally Posted By: spmob
Can they ask for a mistrial because of this?

And I am ready to say how stupid this is. In philly, you only have to have a plate on the back of your car and not the front like in jersey. At bare minimum use a different plate, get rid of the gun, something....


hahhah...i agree with you and the judge is supposed to ask on Monday if anyone read or learned about this and then it will be up to him....I would like to know what all those that are part of the family or family of the defendants are saying about this. Love to hear what Damion C's brother has to say

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Jeez, ever since the murder of Bruno, the hits have just become dumber and dumber and dumber. Scarfo was a crazy fuck, Joey was just an incompetent, major egoistic fuck face and now Ligambi was doing a good job bringing the family up again and this fuck Nicodemo goes and messes it all up at the worst possible time ever! I guess the Philly mafia has always been destined to earn itself the reputation of being an ultra-violent dysfunctional family...


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Originally Posted By: spmob
Can they ask for a mistrial because of this?

Like I posted yesterday, they may get a mistrial without even asking. And that's hardly good news. Bail will continue to be denied. The Feds will work on flipping this idiot Nicodemo. Meanwhile, if they do, you can be sure that a couple of old murders will be tacked on to the gambling case that had "no violence."

In short, they're done. It's all over but the shouting for the current Philly administration. The only remotely interesting question at this point is whether or not this can reach Joey. If someone can offer that poor bastard up on an ancient murder charge, his life may just become a movie yet.


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Pizza, I was thinking about that yesterday. They would love to flip someone now that they got this guy charged with Murder and he could bring down a lot of people. Hes the only true hitter in Philly and He has a lot of info. And we all know their number 1 target is Joey. This could possibly be the nail in the coffin for whatever structural organization they have left. And if thats the case, its about time they made a good movie about the philly mob.

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Originally Posted By: spmob
And if thats the case, its about time they made a good movie about the philly mob.

I know he's a New York guy, but you guys have to put your tails between your legs and beg Scorsese to direct whistle.


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To be honest, I would love nothing more. Scorsese is just the man! I dont have a hatred for NY like others. I love the city. Just hate the sports teams lol :)I use to get to NY a lot more and stay with my boy in Yonkers but as time moves on I get less chances to get up there just to hang out.

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