Why are u sore? If u can't relate to it than its not ur speed, some of the more seasoned readers will be able to keep up

Cerone was never Giancana's underboss. Giancana didn't like or trust Cerone. Accardo did not have the power to exile Giancana. Giancana voluntarily went to Mexico and other places outside the U.S. and made a lot of money. It was time for him to go because of all the heat. Accardo had no power to murder Giancana. It was the other way around. Giancana was the Boss of the Taylor St. Crew which was the largest and dominant Crew in the Outfit. Accardo was connected to Elmwood Park and was a Top Level Advisor who was semi-retired. Ricca was the top Advisor and kept the peace. Accardo never ordered any murders without Giancana and Ricca's say.

Cerone was never Giancana's underboss. Giancana didn't like or trust Cerone. Accardo did not have the power to exile Giancana. Giancana voluntarily went to Mexico and other places outside the U.S. and made a lot of money. It was time for him to go because of all the heat. Accardo had no power to murder Giancana. It was the other way around. Giancana was the Boss of the Taylor St. Crew which was the largest and dominant Crew in the Outfit. Accardo was connected to Elmwood Park and was a Top Level Advisor who was semi-retired. Ricca was the top Advisor and kept the peace. Accardo never ordered any murders without Giancana and Ricca's say.

I am curious where you have heard that Giancana went to Mexico voluntarily. Was it in the book by his brother (I have not read it), or did his daughter say that somewhere? I have always understood that he was exiled by Accardo and Auippa, due to his high profile. Some claim that he was not sharing $$ as well.

Personally, I think Giancana's downfall had more to do with the deal made with the Kennedy's (agreeing with Joe Kennedy to help JFK get elected, only to be double crossed and pursued by Bobby and the Justice Dept). I also believe the interactions with the CIA and Robert Mahue to assassinate Castro had to play a role in Giancana leaving the country. My sense is that Accardo and the other leaders in the Outfit did not like the idea of dealing with the government (unless of course there was a quid pro quo style corruption agreement in place).

Listed below is an FBI document reflecting a conversation between Tony Accardo, Paul Ricca and Sam Giancana.

Notice that Accardo is doing most of the talking and Giancana is very receptive to his advice. Ricca says very little. Also look at page 8 or 9 at the top of the page where Accardo is again advising Giancana to ignore FBI agents, and to not call them names, etc. Giancana's response is: "i know."

Sounds to me like things are going well between both men, with Accardo giving advice and Giancana agreeing that Accardo's advise is correct.

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=82829&relPageId=2

Fbi is always a step behind I can't see how people can take what they say so serious, that accardo link shows what a great relationship accardo had with ricca it seemed like depending on the situation both had final say, in actuality they we're co-bosses

in all honesty, accardo should never, ever be mentioned in the same breath as Moe giancana. Accardo never held the absolute top spot in the outfit, he was always a front boss & consigliere. It's not that he wasn't good enough, he just didn't have that temperament and didn't want to sit on top. When giancana, was boss, he was boss. Ricca had the final say on things, but adored moe and trusted him. Back during the Moe reign, it was Ricca/Giancana vs. Accardo/Cerone, so basically Taylor st. vs. Grand ave, and its quite obvious who the more powerful crew was. Moe giancana honestly thought very poorly of aiuppa/Cerone/accardo. Also, aiuppa & Cerone were the ones that masterminded the Giancana murder plot. Aiuppa/Cerone ran the outfit from the time Milwaukee Phil passed to the time of the Vegas trial. Take a look at the family secrets dinner photo and Obrien is seated at the head of the table. Accardo was consigliere at best during those years.

anyways just thought I would add, cheers.

Ricca himself brought Giancana's 42 Gang into the Outfit, a well known fact, so that "documentary" is complete nonsense right off the bat..

All you have to do is read that mary ferrell link and you can see who's in charge. And it wasn't Moe.

What is amazing is how at the beginning they just talk about installing someone as senator, they moved this guy out, etc. Amazing the pull these guys had, not just in the city, but state and national.

All you have to do is read that mary ferrell link and you can see who's in charge. And it wasn't Moe.

What is amazing is how at the beginning they just talk about installing someone as senator, they moved this guy out, etc. Amazing the pull these guys had, not just in the city, but state and national.