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Who approached you? Was it Barzini... #648376
05/23/12 11:08 AM
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Did Michael already know the answer to the question and was just looking for Carlo to verbally confirm who it was?

Re: Who approached you? Was it Barzini... [Re: dontommasino] #648399
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Yes, he knew it was Barzini who approached Carlo. That was not why he asked Carlo the question. His real reasoning was he wanted Carlo to admit setting Sonny up in front of witnesses (i.e. Hagen and others in the room). After all he was ging to kill COnnie's husband, and he had to have clear proof and a witnessed confession of guilt to avoid any possible rift in the family.


"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"

"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."

"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."

Re: Who approached you? Was it Barzini... [Re: dontommasino] #648446
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Also, it was just Michael's way. He was like a shark circling his prey. The shark knows his prey can't escape and it feels invincible. It was his style. It extended the drama.


"Generosity. That was my first mistake."
"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
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Re: Who approached you? Was it Barzini... [Re: dontommasino] #648465
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"Get out of my sight" is one of the best lines in a film full of great ones. Perfectly delivered.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Who approached you? Was it Barzini... [Re: Lilo] #653189
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Originally Posted By: Lilo
"Get out of my sight" is one of the best lines in a film full of great ones. Perfectly delivered.


Definitely also i love in gf 2 when he shouts at pentangelli in my home where my children sleep.

Re: Who approached you? Was it Barzini... [Re: dontommasino] #653216
06/26/12 12:11 PM
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I thought that scene perfectly exemplified the description of Michael in the novel. Pacino nailed it. Puzo described Michael having that "deliciously chilly" feeling, which he experienced a couple of times during the novel. Once was at the hospital when he went to visit his father and found the bodyguards gone, next was when he goaded McCluskey intro striking him outside of the hospital, and then again in Vegas when Michael warned Fredo to not side with anyone but family.

Puzo had one of the best written moments of the novel when Michael confronted Carlo. It was something to the effect of "Carlo Rizzo saw Michael Corleone standing there, just as he had in his nightmares."

Re: Who approached you? Was it Barzini... [Re: goombah] #653224
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G, you've expressed what I've been thinking. I never took the time to post it, but, yes, Michael hid his intentions and feelings pretty well. Tessio cited Michael's "force cleverly kept hidden".


"Generosity. That was my first mistake."
"Experience must be our only guide; reason may mislead us."
"Instagram is Twitter for people who can't read."
Re: Who approached you? Was it Barzini... [Re: olivant] #653339
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This question made the rounds several times here. Some people thought Michael either wasn't really sure, or was trying to justify having Carlo killed, as if he had "scruples." In the novel, the others were "astonished" that Michael even asked, when Carlo was so plainly guilty, and thought he was "not yet the man his father was."


Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu,
E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu
Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
Re: Who approached you? Was it Barzini... [Re: dontommasino] #653942
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That scene reminds me of watching Tom enter the room and sit down against the wall and check his inside coat pocket (making sure he had the airline tickets). Of course Michael later asks Tom for the tickets. A little mistake on Duvall's part or FFC's for leaving it in the final cut.

Re: Who approached you? Was it Barzini... [Re: 45ACP] #654283
07/03/12 05:11 AM
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That scene reminds me of watching Tom enter the room and sit down against the wall and check his inside coat pocket (making sure he had the airline tickets). Of course Michael later asks Tom for the tickets. A little mistake on Duvall's part or FFC's for leaving it in the final cut.

Why do you think it's a mistake? I consider it good acting.


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