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Re: Mob Scene : Split Loyalties [Re: merlino] #649217
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Would love to see a new interview of Scarfo. Don't really hear anything about him anymore. I wonder how his health is. He has to be in his mid 80's by now


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Re: Mob Scene : Split Loyalties [Re: Scorsese] #649531
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Originally Posted By: Scorsese
Originally Posted By: TonyG
I am amazed any of these guys could still feel any loyalty to Scarfo! The guy is a certifiable psychopath.

And I agree with Dapper: Joey = headlines = newspaper sales and high TV ratings.

Stay tuned.


Scarfo was a nut job but he was someone who was like a symbol of what a gangster is and what their family once was, he did expand their operations greatly and had a lot of fear on the street. To go from someone like him to ligambi may not be a very appealing thing for some of the guys from that time.Put it this way no one ever gonna make a documentary about ligambi.


Yea but Scarfo pretty much brought the Philly Mob down all by himself. The Philly Mob was running like a well oiled machine in the 50's, 60 and 70's. They were making loads of money, not attracting to much attention from the feds and were still feared on the streets. The way Scarfo ran things with all the killings it brought WAY to much attention and did them in. He was the worst thing to ever happen to the Philly Mob

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Re: Mob Scene : Split Loyalties [Re: PhillySteve] #649534
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Originally Posted By: PhillySteve

Yea but Scarfo pretty much brought the Philly Mob down all by himself. The Philly Mob was running like a well oiled machine in the 50's, 60 and 70's. They were making loads of money, not attracting to much attention from the feds and were still feared on the streets. The way Scarfo ran things with all the killings it brought WAY to much attention and did them in. He was the worst thing to ever happen to the Philly Mob


It's also important to remember that law enforcement efforts against the mob were rather lackluster during the 50's, 60's, and 70's. Had Bruno not been killed in 1980, he probably would have been indicted when the heat came on in the 1980's. And things would not have run so smoothly in the family as a whole.


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Re: Mob Scene : Split Loyalties [Re: IvyLeague] #649587
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I still think it would of ran much better then with Scarfo at the head. During Bruno's leadership period what was there maybe 7 or 8 murders in the 20 years or so that he ran the ship. Scarfo beat that in less then one year running the ship and they were WAY to greddy. I'm suprised he lasted as long as he did. He did nothing but draw all kinds of unwanted attention. Uncle Joe ran it like Bruno did. They still make loads of money and stayed out of the rader until recently that is.


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Re: Mob Scene : Split Loyalties [Re: spmob] #649594
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your right and the feds are sweating this one out looking for somebody to flip that is a major player cause with the lawyers the defendants have in this case i wont be surprised if they get convicted on only a few counts or maybe even walk

Re: Mob Scene : Split Loyalties [Re: spmob] #649596
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if you get a chance to read an article mob Steve Volk the generalist wrote in philly mag last year they might just get away with it. no violence is a major issue for the feds

Re: Mob Scene : Split Loyalties [Re: PhillySteve] #649597
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Originally Posted By: PhillySteve
Originally Posted By: Scorsese
Originally Posted By: TonyG
I am amazed any of these guys could still feel any loyalty to Scarfo! The guy is a certifiable psychopath.

And I agree with Dapper: Joey = headlines = newspaper sales and high TV ratings.

Stay tuned.


Scarfo was a nut job but he was someone who was like a symbol of what a gangster is and what their family once was, he did expand their operations greatly and had a lot of fear on the street. To go from someone like him to ligambi may not be a very appealing thing for some of the guys from that time.Put it this way no one ever gonna make a documentary about ligambi.


Yea but Scarfo pretty much brought the Philly Mob down all by himself. The Philly Mob was running like a well oiled machine in the 50's, 60 and 70's. They were making loads of money, not attracting to much attention from the feds and were still feared on the streets. The way Scarfo ran things with all the killings it brought WAY to much attention and did them in. He was the worst thing to ever happen to the Philly Mob


I was talking more about his notoriety and status than just how he ran the family. He was like the pablo escobar of the mob at the time. And also you got to take into count the scope of scarfos criminal activity during the 80s compared to ligambi during the late 90s till 2011. Scarfo had unions, atlantic city, gambling,loansharking, fraud,drug trafficking and the street tax he had put in place. He withstood a whole bunch of feuds and wars with rivals, he had a lot of killers around him that respected him but feared him more. Ligambi may have been keeping things quiet and earning money but he's never gonna reach the same heights or fear scarfo brought to the game.

Re: Mob Scene : Split Loyalties [Re: IvyLeague] #649622
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True. When does Chucky Merlino, and chicky get out? It seems chicky will die in there, but isn't chuckys release date coming up fairly soon?

Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: PhillySteve

Yea but Scarfo pretty much brought the Philly Mob down all by himself. The Philly Mob was running like a well oiled machine in the 50's, 60 and 70's. They were making loads of money, not attracting to much attention from the feds and were still feared on the streets. The way Scarfo ran things with all the killings it brought WAY to much attention and did them in. He was the worst thing to ever happen to the Philly Mob


It's also important to remember that law enforcement efforts against the mob were rather lackluster during the 50's, 60's, and 70's. Had Bruno not been killed in 1980, he probably would have been indicted when the heat came on in the 1980's. And things would not have run so smoothly in the family as a whole.


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Re: Mob Scene : Split Loyalties [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #649626
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Both arguments are correct. Scarfo was good in the sense that he brought in a lot of money from all different areas. At the end of the day, that is what it's all about to most of these guys, and the Philly Mob was as powerhouse. For that, Scarfo doesn't get enough credit. On the other hand, Ligambi ran things as flawlessly as one can in the modern age. It's no doubt he and John DiFronzo were two of the strongest dons of the new millennium, and they run things in a very similar, back to basics, low profile way.

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