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Re: Richard Kuklinski - Did he really work with Demeo? [Re: FaticoWestIslip] #656158
07/20/12 05:43 AM
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Roy only dealt in the beastiality stuff not the kiddie porn , and some believe the story Kuklinski told about killing the drug dealer who had the children sex slaves in his basement was actually a Roy Demeo hit NOT a Kuklinski murder . Freddy did however mention Richard Kuklinski to the Feds but not to the extent Carlo would have one believe . I do know that Freddy told my grandfather he thought Richard set up Roy and maybe even Richie . As for the Calabro/Gravano set up , one might want to look into the Kuklinski family finances because some circles might have you believe that Kuklinski was paid off to blame it on Gravano as a last chance at revenge for Sammy flipping . In regard to the other murders he helped NJ state police and NYPD solve that could also be law enforcement paying him as well to help them raise their clearance rates . I never put too much stock in any murder case being solved when it only adds a life sentence to someone who's already serving 2 life sentences and has absolutely nothing to lose . I also will say that not only is the Iceman book based on a ton of BS but so is Murder Machine , family members , friends , and I have even emailed Capeci to try and let him know about some inconsistencies/errors in his book and he ignored them . It is what it is . Anyone read Al Demeos book ? It's a good read with some pretty accurate stories .

Re: Richard Kuklinski - Did he really work with Demeo? [Re: FaticoWestIslip] #656164
07/20/12 06:18 AM
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I call Kuklinski major bullshitter

Re: Richard Kuklinski - Did he really work with Demeo? [Re: TheKillingJoke] #656167
07/20/12 07:35 AM
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Hey its easy to kill a few nobody's get caught and be like you know what I know this kill crazy motherfucker who is now dead and I once bought a pistol from him - but i'll just say he used me for hits etc.. One photo of him outside Gemini, no other connections to Demeo or the crew except circumstantial nonsense.. if he was really killing for demeo.. we would know by now .. and someone would back this up - either a rat or surveillance, once again non of this adds up... Richard Kuklinski nice try - but I wasn't born yesterday asshole wink


From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn. -Frank White

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Re: Richard Kuklinski - Did he really work with Demeo? [Re: FaticoWestIslip] #656250
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As I've said I think Kuklinski is an embellisher of epic proportions to say the least . But I think his motives were financial , he's not a stupid man. I woul bet my bottom dollar that this Gravano implication was a set up from the Gambinos . If this would have went to trial , Gravano would have been somewhere in the North East in Jail , which would have put him well within the reach of the New York Mafia

Re: Richard Kuklinski - Did he really work with Demeo? [Re: DiNome1978] #656252
07/20/12 08:25 PM
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I dunno.. why would Gravano trust this guy?, why would he not think he would roll over one day... why didn't Sammy admit this when he made his deal?, as he would have knew Kuklinski was already in prison and was going to stay there for life.. why would sammy not just add that murder onto the rest- he would have still got out, it makes no sense..the deal is if you leave anything out or lie then - no deal..think about it didn't Kuklinski confess to murdering a whole list of guys - in that Carlo book... Castellano, Galante, Demeo - just plain old nonsense, don't buy it... goddamn lier uhwhat


From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn. -Frank White

You say your 72, if they come back and tell me to give you a message - and if you want to defy it ... I assure you that you will never reach 73 - Joey "the clown" Lombardo
Re: Richard Kuklinski - Did he really work with Demeo? [Re: FaticoWestIslip] #656264
07/20/12 10:09 PM
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If Sammy admitted to his role in killing a cop there would never have been a deal to begin with . Corrupt or not killing a cop would have completely destroyed his credibility and no judge would have signed off on the deal . It kind of makes you think of all sorts of conspiracies when you really look at it . Because had Kuklinski done this during the Gotti trial when they found out Sammy flipped , Gotti may very well never ended up in jail . I always thought that the commission approved Sammy ratting on Gotti as the final fuck you for killing big Paul . I mean Sammy was living outside wit pro for a long time and you can't tell me they couldn't find him there was and supposedly still is a 10 million dollar bounty on his head . All the interviews he did , getting kicked out of wit pro, mid level gangsters living in Arizona were sure to have bumped into him or even one of the kids in his ecstasy dealing ring could have just as easily saw it as an easy way to get filthy rich .

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