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John McCain is a lunatic #638570
03/06/12 03:40 PM
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So now this idiot wants the US to bomb Syria and/or arm the rebels in Syria. The so called rebels in Syria are nothing but a bunch of terrorist thugs, just like the guys the Europeans and US supported in Libya. The stuff they have done and are doing is no better than the guys they want to get rid of,

I can't think of a conflict that McCain hasn't wanted to get involved in. You would think for a guy who fought in a war he'd want to avoid one at all cost, but nope. There is something mentally wrong with the guy, and needs to be stop being elected. The more I think about it, his constitutents might be more then nuts then he.

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Re: John McCain is a lunatic [Re: GerryLang] #638581
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"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

John F. Kennedy (Inaugural Address)

Just to expand, assisting harassed peoples is part of the American tradition. You can debate when and how it is wise to intervene, but acting as if someone who wants to help is unbalanced just reveals a lack of knowledge about our own history and tradition.

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Re: John McCain is a lunatic [Re: GerryLang] #638609
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Originally Posted By: GerryLang
So now this idiot wants the US to bomb Syria and/or arm the rebels in Syria. The so called rebels in Syria are nothing but a bunch of terrorist thugs, just like the guys the Europeans and US supported in Libya. The stuff they have done and are doing is no better than the guys they want to get rid of,

I can't think of a conflict that McCain hasn't wanted to get involved in. You would think for a guy who fought in a war he'd want to avoid one at all cost, but nope. There is something mentally wrong with the guy, and needs to be stop being elected. The more I think about it, his constitutents might be more then nuts then he.


You really think the Syrian protesters, in general, are anywhere as bad as the Assad regime they're trying to overthrow?

My attitude has been, "OK, let's help the people in Iran, Libya, Syria, etc. who are trying to break out of under the oppressive regimes. Because than it gives them a chance to show they can implement some kind of democracy of their own. However, if they simply allow other tyrants to take over, including religious extremists, than they've shown they're not deserving of anything but what they've always had."

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Re: John McCain is a lunatic [Re: GerryLang] #638618
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^^thats my main concern with helping these opposition groups its that we DONT know their true intentions/what kinds of policies they will pursue


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Re: John McCain is a lunatic [Re: mustachepete] #638769
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Originally Posted By: mustachepete
"Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, in order to assure the survival and the success of liberty."

John F. Kennedy (Inaugural Address)

Just to expand, assisting harassed peoples is part of the American tradition. You can debate when and how it is wise to intervene, but acting as if someone who wants to help is unbalanced just reveals a lack of knowledge about our own history and tradition.


This tradition needs to cease to exist as soon as possible. I and most Americans I speak to are sick of getting involved in foreign conflicts that have nothing to do with us. The conflicts in the Middle East aren't cut and dry either, there isn't a good or bad side, but mostly lonesome characters willing to do anything to be top dog.

Re: John McCain is a lunatic [Re: IvyLeague] #638770
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: GerryLang
So now this idiot wants the US to bomb Syria and/or arm the rebels in Syria. The so called rebels in Syria are nothing but a bunch of terrorist thugs, just like the guys the Europeans and US supported in Libya. The stuff they have done and are doing is no better than the guys they want to get rid of,

I can't think of a conflict that McCain hasn't wanted to get involved in. You would think for a guy who fought in a war he'd want to avoid one at all cost, but nope. There is something mentally wrong with the guy, and needs to be stop being elected. The more I think about it, his constitutents might be more then nuts then he.


You really think the Syrian protesters, in general, are anywhere as bad as the Assad regime they're trying to overthrow?

My attitude has been, "OK, let's help the people in Iran, Libya, Syria, etc. who are trying to break out of under the oppressive regimes. Because than it gives them a chance to show they can implement some kind of democracy of their own. However, if they simply allow other tyrants to take over, including religious extremists, than they've shown they're not deserving of anything but what they've always had."


No, I don't think the Sunni of Syria would be much better than Assad if they were to gain power in Syria. I don't think they have any intention of creating a free and democratic society where all will be considered equal regardless of the religion they follow.

Re: John McCain is a lunatic [Re: GerryLang] #638779
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One of the big reasons the Russians and Chinese do not support further action against Assad is because if they have to choose between two evils, they choose the one they know and have been doing business with for a long time. No one knows who will replace Assad if he is removed. Even Israel prefers the status quo and rather deals with Assad.

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Re: John McCain is a lunatic [Re: GerryLang] #638783
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One reason that is always given for why many in the Middle East hate the west is our support for the dictators that rule over them. Well, once those dictators are removed, especially with assistance from the west, that excuse can no longer be used. The responsibility is then on the people to get their house in order. If they fail to do so, they can reap the consequences.


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Re: John McCain is a lunatic [Re: IvyLeague] #638786
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Fun fact: If McCain picked Romney as his running mate four years ago, there's a fifty-fifty chance that we'd be posting about the results of the Democratic primaries right now.

But that hot Alaskan chick was good for shits and giggles whistle.


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Re: John McCain is a lunatic [Re: GerryLang] #638793
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You betcha McCain still regrets picking her every day.

Re: John McCain is a lunatic [Re: GerryLang] #638921
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Originally Posted By: GerryLang
So now this idiot wants the US to bomb Syria and/or arm the rebels in Syria.


Like Deep Throat said, "follow the money". Haliburton needs some new contracts. Bomb a few cities and then come in and rebuild. Sell a few guns. Maybe McCain has financial interest in these endeavors.


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