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New Vanity Fair Article #637671
03/01/12 01:11 PM
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This isn't the article itself, it's an excerpt from today's NY Post. Very interesting.

Sopranos’ cast members discuss feuds, flaws and confusing finale

Tony and crew on feuds, flaws and ‘WTF?’ finale


By TODD VENEZIA

Even Tony Soprano was baffled by his show’s bizarre ending.

James Gandolfini, the actor who brought the Jersey mob boss to life, admits that he was as confused as everyone else by the finale of “The Sopranos,” according to a new, wide-ranging oral history of the HBO show in April’s Vanity Fair, which will hit newsstands today.

“When I first saw the ending, I said, ‘What the f--k?’” Gandolfini said. “I mean, after all I went through, all this death, and then it’s over like that?”

Though the ending of “The Sopranos’ ” last episode — in which the screen suddenly goes black as the mob boss sits with his family in a diner — has been much maligned, Gandolfini eventually came to like it.

“After I had a day to sleep, I just sat there and said, ‘That’s perfect.’ ”

The Vanity Fair oral history of the show features dozens of recollections from former cast members, Sopranos writers and show creator David Chase.

Lorraine Bracco, who played Dr. Jennifer Melfi on the show, also didn’t appear to be thrilled by the ending.

“I would have wanted it to end differently,” she told Vanity Fair. “But God knows we’ve talked about that ending for five years now — we’re still talking about it. People stop me in the street. ‘Did you get the ending? Did I miss something?’ I thought it was very, very shrewd.”

The magazine piece is packed with stories of the Mafia show’s creation, such as Drea de Matteo’s hatred of her faux New Jersey accent.

“I felt like my accent sounded really, really fake,” said the actress, who played mob moll Adriana La Cerva. “Now when I walk down the street, people say, ‘Just give me one Chris-ta-fuh.’ ”

De Matteo’s Jersey transformation was particularly amazing, since she wasn’t initially considered for the Adriana role because Chase told her, “You don’t look Italian. You look like a hostess of a restaurant.”

When de Matteo got a second chance to try out for the role, she learned her lesson and came dressed up like a proper New Jersey Guidette.

“At this point I knew what I was dealing with,” she said. “So I wore my nameplate in diamonds. I teased my hair up a little bit. One of the words in the line was “Ow,” and the reason that I got the part was because the way I said ‘Owwuhwhwwwuhwwwuh!’ I turned it into, like, five syllables.”

Chase told the magazine that, although whacking characters was hard, he regretted not killing off Tony’s nephew Christopher Moltisanti (Michael Imperioli) sooner.

“As a mob boss, the guy was totally unreliable! . . . Tony put up with him for too long,” he said about Moltisanti, who was killed by Tony in the final season. “Christopher just spelled the end of Tony, his family — everything. From my standpoint, as the architect of the series, Tony put up with him for too long.”

Still, Chase said that killing off characters was something he dreaded and that the process of pulling the trigger on one of his actors made him feel like a real Godfather.

“It was a hard thing to do,” he said. “But at the same time, I thought to myself, well, I’m writing about a guy who’s the boss of a Mafia family, and he has to do these things, too.”

The violence on the show even had some of the actors feeling like they had to live up to a real-life code of the streets.

Tony Sirico pleaded with Chase to not make his Paulie “Walnuts” character kill a woman.

“David, I come from a tough neighborhood,” he said. “If I go home and they see that I killed a woman, it’s going to make me look bad.”

Chase refused to change the script.

“Here’s the thing. We did the scene,” Sirico recalled. “I had to smother her. First he wanted me to strangle her; I said, ‘No, I’m not putting my hands on her.’ He said, ‘Use the pillow.’ After it was all said and done, I went back to the neighborhood and nobody said a word.”

Because the show was so much like the real mob, none of the actors knew when they were about to get whacked — and it led to nervous moments whenever scripts were handed around.

“If it’s time for your character to go, it’s time for your character to go. It doesn’t matter who you are,” said actor Steve Schirripa, who played Tony’s tubby bodyguard, Bobby “Bacala.”

“I mean, this wasn’t ‘Friends.’ This was a real worry,” he said. “You know, we would talk. ‘Did you hear anything?’ You’re asking the writers. Nobody’s telling you nothing. Each time the script arrived, you go to the front, you go to the back, looking.”

One of the saddest moments on the set was the day Vincent Pastore’s character Sal “Big Pussy” Bonpensiero got bumped off.

“We lost Vinny Pastore, and that was the most difficult day up to that point. That was the only day on the set I can remember, you know, out of the whole 10 years where it was very uptight, a lot of tension on the set,” said Steve Van Zandt, who played mob consigliere Silvio Dante.

“I remember people yelling at each other and really pissed off, which you never saw,” he said. “Why? Because we were losing Vinny. He was a beloved friend of ours, and you’re not going to see him anymore.”

A happier day on the set was when — after winning a big payday in contract negotiations — Gandolfini handed out gifts of cash to the other regular actors.

“After Season 4, Jim called all the regulars into his trailer and gave us $33,333 each, every single one of us,” Schirripa said. “ Now, there were a lot of big actors—Kelsey Grammer, Ray Romano—and they’re all nice guys, I’m sure, but nobody gave their cast members that kind of money. That’s like buying everybody an SUV. He said, ‘Thanks for sticking by me.’ ”

Edie Falco recalled how playing Tony’s wife made her feel like she was becoming the mob kingpin’s real spouse — to the extent that she started becoming possessive of Gandolfini.

“It was weird to sit down at a table and read with the actresses playing Tony’s girlfriends. Occasionally I would get a sharp twinge at the back of my neck,” she recalled.

“Even years later, I remember when I saw Jim in “God of Carnage” on Broadway, and he was Marcia Gay Harden’s husband, and I had this ‘How come I have to be OK with this?’ kind of feeling.”

As for the show’s mysterious ending, Chase defended it by comparing it to movies such as “8 1/2” and “Raging Bull,” saying “ambiguity was very important to me.”

“The Sopranos was ambiguous to the point where, to this day, I’m not really sure whether it was a drama or a comedy,” he said.

“It can be both, but people like to reduce it to one or the other. I know there are the two masks, Comedy and Drama, hanging together. But that’s not the way American audiences seem to break things down.”

While most of the response to “The Sopranos” has been positive from fans and reviewers alike, Gandolfini took umbrage at critics who thought the show celebrated Mafia violence.

“We’d get accused, back then, of glamorizing mobsters, but we were all half-miserable, you know. I don’t think the violence looks appealing at all.

“Everyone paid for the violence in a lot of ways . . . It’s a very violent world and, you know, there’s consequences. I think we showed it, and I think we showed the toll it takes on these people.”

todd.venezia@nypost.com

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/sopranos_whack_back_yXMqnYaeKjfggdn6o3SVSO#ixzz1nszlBLuJ









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Re: New Vanity Fair Article [Re: pizzaboy] #637707
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Interesting read, thanks for that.. Man i miss the Sopranos..


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Cool read. Thanks for posting.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Chase told the magazine that, although whacking characters was hard, he regretted not killing off Tony’s nephew Christopher Moltisanti (Michael Imperioli) sooner.


Have to strongly disagree with Chase on that one.

I sure miss that show too. First 5 seasons were solid. And final season certainly left something to be desired but, even on it's worst day, The Sopranos was miles ahead of 99% of everything else on TV.


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very very cool!

it's so funny that they do sound like a mob family - “I remember people yelling at each other and really pissed off (...) Because we were losing Vinny. He was a beloved friend of ours, and you’re not going to see him anymore.” lol

really, how great was that? I'm currently watching "The Wire" and it's giving The Sopranos a very good run for best series of all time though.


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Re: New Vanity Fair Article [Re: IvyLeague] #637724
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Chase told the magazine that, although whacking characters was hard, he regretted not killing off Tony’s nephew Christopher Moltisanti (Michael Imperioli) sooner.


Have to strongly disagree with Chase on that one.

Yeah, I really didn't like the character. To me, he was a junkie and an albatross from day one. But he was an integral part of the show and one of the keys to Tony's moral ambiguity. It would have been a mistake to kill him off earlier.


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Christopher was arguably the best character on the show and i'm glad he wasn't killed off earlier..


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It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

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Same. The show wouldn't have been as good with Christopher's character.


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Thanks pb, great article ! I miss the hell out of this show ! To bad the actors had to put up with the BS ! The movie makers big shots suck big time on this one ! Wonder what they were snorting ? mad

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don't know about best character on the show - other than Tony who is given the most screentime, best quotes and most interesting storylines, I'd give the nod to Ralphie - but Christopher was fuckin' awesome!

"a junkie and an albatross from day one", yes, but still a great character. his intervention scene is just priceless.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy

“After Season 4, Jim called all the regulars into his trailer and gave us $33,333 each, every single one of us,” Schirripa said. “ Now, there were a lot of big actors—Kelsey Grammer, Ray Romano—and they’re all nice guys, I’m sure, but nobody gave their cast members that kind of money. That’s like buying everybody an SUV. He said, ‘Thanks for sticking by me.’ ”


That's either a great co-worker or he really had something to make up for.

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James probably knew he would seem greedy getting a considerable pay hike compared to all the other actors. It's hard to be mad with a $40,000 gift. That was a smart investment by James keeping the other actors happier and better to work with.


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I don't know if many remember but Gandolfini and HBO were really at war and it got pretty ugly. They really fought him tooth and nail when he asked for a raise. Never mind the fact that he was the center of their most popular show. It almost stopped production for a while if I remember right. Then he turns around and splits it with his co-stars. Pretty cool.

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i thought it did stop production bewteen like season 3 and season 4...i wonder what made them put this in vanity fair 4 years after the show ended?


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Christopher was a good character for the show, as he added to the drama and also had some great funny moments. Moreover he really wasn't the brightest bulb in the chandelier.
But I always wondered why Tony hadn't whacked him earlier as he - due to his massive drug abuse and emotional instability - posed some danger to the mob family.

Btw I loooooooooove the chemistry between Gandolfini and Falco that was really sth special.

God, how I miss the show. frown


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