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Re: Fredo
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02/04/04 05:29 PM
02/04/04 05:29 PM
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Fredo was not a smart man. He was an emotional sort. And his emotions pretty much effected his decisions..
"What's mine is not yours to give."
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Re: Fredo
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02/04/04 10:43 PM
02/04/04 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by joltinjoe05: WHY'D YOU DO IT, MIKEY?? GIVE HIM ANOTHER CHANCE!! HE'S YOUR BROTHER!!
I loved Fredo. He's such a good character. It always gets me a little emotional when, after we know Mike has him killed, we see him years earlier congratulating Mike on joining the army.
And I love John Cazale too. That's tremondously sad about him. What a great supporting actor. I completely agree with everything you say. I loved Michael in GF1 but I just couldn't help loathing him after what he did. Fredo had made a mistake but what Mike did was just completely unforgivable. And I too loved Cazale. One of the greatest actors in my opinion. He was just amazing in GF2. He should've been nominated for Best Supporting Actor.
If anything in this life is certain, if history has taught us anything, it is that you can kill anyone. - Michael Corleone
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Re: Fredo
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02/08/04 01:03 PM
02/08/04 01:03 PM
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In the book Fredo goes into shock after seeng his Father shot and Michael thinks about how Fredo was always the most obedient son, but the Don had given up on him being important in the business because he was 'not quite smart enough' and 'not quite ruthless enough. He was too retiring a person, did not have enough force.' It doesnt really go into this in the film. I think Fredo is one of my favourite characters.
"My wife was weeping before she fell asleep, outside my window I saw my Caporegimes coming to the house and it is midnight. So, Consigliori of mine, I think you should tell your Don what everyone knows."
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Re: Fredo
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02/08/04 06:05 PM
02/08/04 06:05 PM
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EnzoBaker
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You have the scene where Vito is shot, and Fredo just sits on the curb and cries. That establishes that he doesn't have the nerve to function under pressure.
Then, when Vito comes home from the hospital and is recuperating in the bedroom, everyone else leaves, and Fredo comes in and sits in a chair. There's no dialogue in the scene but it is still very powerful. Fredo can hardly look at his father because he knows he has failed him. Vito looks at Fredo and knows he can never play a really useful role in the family. The scene conveys those emotions very well.
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Re: Fredo
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02/13/04 01:23 AM
02/13/04 01:23 AM
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The most heartbreaking scene in Part II is the murder of Fredo, and the "Don's Birthday" scene following it. Mike had his brother killed, and yet Fredo was the only one who supported him when he joined the Marines, Fredo seemed very close to Mike at the wedding reception, where Mike introduces him to Kay. From a business standpoint, Mike made the right decision. Morally, I don't think he could have made a worse decision. Family comes first. Right when you hear the gunshot, and see Mike's head drop, you can tell right there he's thinking "oh sh*t, what have I done?" So heartbreaking...
And I agree with the lot of you. Cazale was brilliant in this film, and definitely should have been nominated for Best Supporting Actor. His untimely death was so unfortunate. He would easily be held in as high a regard as that of De Niro, Pacino, and Brando.
"Growing up my dad was like 'You have a great last name, Galifianakis. Galifianakis...begins with a gal...and ends with a kiss...' I'm like that's great dad, can we get it changed to 'Galifianafuck' please?" -- Zach Galifianakis
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