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Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: SC] #637339
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Originally Posted By: SC
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i just realised that james arness was omitted from the 'in memoriam' totally forgot about him.


Arness was best known for his work in television... (although he appeared in two of my favorite sci-fi flicks; "The Thing" and "Them").


he also did a film with john wayne

Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: BAM_233] #637340
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Wow, how could they miss James Arness? confused Gunsmoke was, if I'm not mistaken, the longest running tv show ever. The ones they showed were many people behind the scenes that we didn't know. You'd think they'd do a bit more research. Sounds like it was hastily put together.


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Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #637347
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Darlin, you are so right ! When you go back , to Gunsmoke, Chester, McCloud ! And so many others ! Always back in the old days came on after Lawerence Welk ! ONE, TWO, THREE, I used to spend a night with my grandparents back in the 50's ! Then at 9PM Gunsmoke ! Ye Haw ! Yepper ! It was fun !

Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #637351
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Wow, how could they miss James Arness? confused Gunsmoke was, if I'm not mistaken, the longest running tv show ever. The ones they showed were many people behind the scenes that we didn't know. You'd think they'd do a bit more research.


TIS, the Oscars honor those in the movies, not television. Arness was a minor movie actor.


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Ohhhh! That's right! If I'm not mistaken the Emmys DID honor him. My mistake. There I go thinking again. lol





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Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: SC] #637358
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Originally Posted By: SC
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Wow, how could they miss James Arness? confused Gunsmoke was, if I'm not mistaken, the longest running tv show ever. The ones they showed were many people behind the scenes that we didn't know. You'd think they'd do a bit more research.


TIS, the Oscars honor those in the movies, not television. Arness was a minor movie actor.


so, arness was a minor movie actor...then jackie cooper must have been the opposite.

Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: BAM_233] #637377
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Originally Posted By: BAM_233
so, arness was a minor movie actor...then jackie cooper must have been the opposite.


Dunno if you're trying to be sarcastic, BAM, but actually Jackie Cooper was quite a big star back in the '20s/'30s.


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Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: Frosty] #637379
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TIS,

Oh well, I am behind ya ! Don't tell your hubby that ! wink cool


I really hope you're not startin' up again.


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Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #637384
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Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: SC] #637388
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Originally Posted By: SC
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so, arness was a minor movie actor...then jackie cooper must have been the opposite.


Dunno if you're trying to be sarcastic, BAM, but actually Jackie Cooper was quite a big star back in the '20s/'30s.


i know he was (he was also in superman), idk i still think that arness should have been acknowledge as well as morgan.

anyways though i am happy that the emmys and tcm did acknowledge them.

Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #637444
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...Billy Crystal, who hosted the Oscars, suffered withering reviews for a routine that was long on pep but struck critics as antiquated. “Oscars Become Badly Paced Bore-Fest” read the headline in The Hollywood Reporter. Writing in The New York Times, Alessandra Stanley likened the show to “an AARP pep rally.” In The Washington Post, Hank Stuever wrote of the ceremony: “Early on, it hit the rocks and started to list. Almost everyone drowned.”

The smaller Oscars is epitomized by its biggest player, the tiny but effective Weinstein Company, which powered “The Artist” to five trophies on Sunday, including best picture, and “The Iron Lady” to two, including best actress for Meryl Streep. Harvey Weinstein, whose company also won best picture last year with “The King’s Speech,” aggressively campaigned for the films, trotting Uggie, the dog from “The Artist,” to events and insisting in radio ads that Ms. Streep deserved an Oscar partly because she hadn’t won one since 1983.

Neither “The Artist” nor “The Iron Lady” has struck a nerve at the North American box office, with each so far luring about four million moviegoers to theaters. That’s as if all the people living in Los Angeles had gone to see the films, but the rest of the country did something else.

With films that most of America hasn’t seen continuing to dominate the Oscars — “Hugo,” a winner of five trophies on Sunday, has been a box office dud — the Academy seems to have effectively eliminated one of the crucial measuring sticks of the past: the ability of a picture to move the masses to buy tickets. Put another way, the Academy, whose membership is smaller and artier than in decades past, does not seem as responsive to audience pressure as it does to campaign wizardry.


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Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #637500
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To be fair, what "popular" movies from '11 should've been nominated instead?

All the "popular" movies, or most of them, were sequels upon sequels.

Fast Five
Pirates of the Caribbean IV
Transformers 3
Cars 2
Harry Potter Part 7 Part 2

and So forth.

Sure I enjoyed solid popcorn entertainment from last year like FAST FIVE or RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES* or CAPTAIN AMERICA, but...would I really put them on my top 10 list? Well no. Only if the year was really that void and naked of truely good shit.

Anyway that article's complaint should be launched not at the Academy (who deserve other criticisms) but at the industry. With exception in recent years for example of THE DARK KNIGHT or INCEPTION or IRON MAN or the best of Pixar's releases and whatever, the most box-office successful movies are intentionally derivative in ambition because there is a reliable cash-making formula, which they'll religiously follow by the Orthodox. (Santorum would be proud.)

So what if they're mostly forgettable at best or worse, terrible? I've not yet met anybody who liked the boring last PIRATES picture, and I liked those other entries. Yet it grossed over a billion dollars. Same with the atriocious TRANSFORMERS 3. How uplifting.

*=RISE OF THE APES. Why did they need that stupid "Planet" shit in the title?

Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: SC] #637512
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Originally Posted By: SC
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TIS,

Oh well, I am behind ya ! Don't tell your hubby that ! wink cool


I really hope you're not startin' up again.
? I was speaking of TIS making a minor mistake. And I was not making any sexual contatation ! What do you mean startin' again ?

Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #637607
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Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: SC] #637747
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Originally Posted By: SC
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TIS,

Oh well, I am behind ya ! Don't tell your hubby that ! wink cool


I really hope you're not startin' up again.
I made a bad statement that , WAS NOT MEAN'T IN THAT RESPECT ! TIS,

Please forgive me for any bad feelings ! I was joking when I said this , but SC , brought this to my attentinon ! I have sent you a PM ! And also sent one to SC !

It is what it is as above stated !!!!!!!!!!! Thank You !

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Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #638091
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Seriously speaking, let us know if you liked Hugo and tell us a little something about it. I don't know much about it at all.

I watched HUGO tonight. It's certainly worth a rental. It centers around an orphaned boy thief who secretly maintains the clocks in a Paris train station, who has been trying to repair and figure out a "writing" automaton that he and his father had been working on -- trying to figure out the mystery behind it.

The plot surrounds the story of the famous Georges Méliès*, the early (1900's) prolific filmmaker/inventor/magician famous for A Trip to the Moon (1902), a plot making this much more interesting that it otherwise would have been. (I don't know how much portrayed here is fact and how much is fiction).

If you can get over the fact that this period piece, set in Paris, is spoken in English with British accents... and if you have any interest in early cinema... you should like this.

*Ben Kingsley looks exactly like him!



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Re: 2012 Oscars [Re: J Geoff] #638108
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Originally Posted By: J Geoff
Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Seriously speaking, let us know if you liked Hugo and tell us a little something about it. I don't know much about it at all.

I watched HUGO tonight. It's certainly worth a rental. It centers around an orphaned boy thief who secretly maintains the clocks in a Paris train station, who has been trying to repair and figure out a "writing" automaton that he and his father had been working on -- trying to figure out the mystery behind it.

The plot surrounds the story of the famous Georges Méliès*, the early (1900's) prolific filmmaker/inventor/magician famous for A Trip to the Moon (1902), a plot making this much more interesting that it otherwise would have been. (I don't know how much portrayed here is fact and how much is fiction).

If you can get over the fact that this period piece, set in Paris, is spoken in English with British accents... and if you have any interest in early cinema... you should like this.

*Ben Kingsley looks exactly like him!


funny thing, i watched the movie tonight as well. i really enjoyed it, and i believe that Hugo deserved a lot of the Oscars they won. the story is part fiction and actual fact (the parts about georges melies is fact). the acting is great, and some well known actors is in the movie.

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