which american lcn family is presently the most prone to violence? scarfo was pretty bad back in the day but in terms of present families its hard to tell. maybe the columbos since they seem to be very unstable which could lead to more murders but i dont know.

The Genovese family has probably had the most hits in the last decade or so.

Internal fighting could also be a factor, like you said, the Colombos. And the Luccheses had its own civil war, and the gambinos had minor skirmishes.

Infighting? Definitely the Colombos, then the Luccheses. Albeit a distant 2nd.

The Genovese by far for outside enforcement. Philly too, though Philly was up there with the Colombos in terms of infighting.

2003 - Genovese captain Adolfo "Big Al" Bruno killed.
2004 - Genovese associate Nicholas Cirillo missing.
2005 - Genovese acting captain Lawrence "Larry" Ricci killed.
2007 - Genovese soldier Rudolph "Rudy Cueball" Izzi killed.
2008 - Genovese extortion/robbery victim Louis Antonelli killed.


2001 - Bonanno associate Frank Santoro killed.
2004 - Bonanno associate Rudolph "Rudy Pizzolo" killed.
2005 - Bonanno associate Robert McKelvey killed.
2009 - Bonanno soldier Anthony Seccifico killed.


2005 - Gambino extortion victim Joseph Generoso wounded.
2006 - Gambino captain Carmine "Top Tomato" Sciandra wounded.
2007 - Gambino associate Robert DeCicco wounded.
2011 - Gambino member Peter Argentina wounded.


2007 - Lucchese soldier Frank Lagano killed.


2003 - Colombo soldier Joseph "Joe Camp" Campanella wounded.


2000 - Philadelphia associate John Beebee wounded.
2001 - Philadelphia associate Adam Finelli killed.
2001 - Philadelphia associate Carmen Perrota wounded.
2002 - Philadelphia soldier Raymond "Long John" Martorano killed.
2003 - Philadelphia associate John "Johnny Gongs" Casasanto killed.


2001 - Chicago member Anthony "Tony the Hatch" Chiaramonti killed.
2006 - Chicago member Anthony "Little Tony" Zizzo disappeared.

thanks for this and the rest of the responces guys. i first wanted to get an idea of it all. makes sense that the genovese family has the most with them being the biggest, but it seems like philly over the last ten years even with the drop in violence within its own family is still one of the most violent families for its size in the country. granted, we might be measuring this only on some of the murders, as this and other violent crime might be harder to track. thoughts?

also Lucchese associate James Donovan he was blown away in 2010 by Bonanno associate Hector Pagan

Capeci reported on this this past Thursday

and maybe also adding Sal Montagna? tho that was in Montreal...

2000 - Philadelphia associate John Beebee wounded.
2001 - Philadelphia associate Adam Finelli killed.
2001 - Philadelphia associate Carmen Perrota wounded.

Who are these people ? And associate with who ? Also is it known why they were on a hit list ? Is Perrota and John Beebee made now?

aint their a few bonanno and gambino guys going to trial for some botched home invasions that got some civilians killed. Would that count. Also the murder of martin bosshart by gambino drug dealers in 2000.

i think peter argentina was an associate of the lucchese family

"Police say Mr Argentina may have affiliations with the Luchese crime family.

They said although Lastorino wasn't a member of the Luchese, his father Frank Lastorino Sr., was, and had been sent to prison in 1993 for conspiracy to commit murder.

Police say Lastorino's brother is also in the Mob.

But instead of appearing like an orchestrated act of mob violence, police say they think Lastorino acted alone."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...l#ixzz1msaV9yyT

They were associates of one type or another. Don't know off the top of my head who they were with.

On a site note, one of the redeeming features of the AmericanMafia site is the hit list that runs from 1991-2004, for those who haven't seen it. Wish they'd update it. You can also add Tony Machines being wounded in Philly.


http://americanmafia.com/Mob_Hits/1991_04_update.html

Until I found the awesomeness of this site and the exception of bitterqueen and hollywood goodfella, americanmafia (along with bitterqueen and hollywood goodfella) was my only source of Italian-American organized crime

sorry but i have to plug my site in here as well lol i suggest you also check out my blog

www.fivefamiliesnyc.blogspot.com

i would say its like cnn for the five families

Dappah, you a smart man; I've always givin' your blogspot mad props (not to mention the fact you do a tremendous job with detailing legal side and the legal wording of mobster's predicaments, indictments, etc.)

Where you go to Uni? I know your a Dominican in NY, what do you want to do, career wise? Oh, and I'm a nice Italian-American goin' to a Lutheran college out here in Cali, that's got a sister college in Brooklyn (Jackie Aprile Jr. from The Sopranos went to it, good drama program). I'm a poli sci major with aspirations of becoming a defense attorney (my old man's one, and it definitely runs in the family). Will go to law school after a 4 year stint in the military.

This has the making of match.com all over it.

Lookin' to get Eiffel towered tonight, 'Mela? Lol.

Touche'. But it was funny, admit it.

Yeah it was girl so was my smart-assed retort

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That it was. I love a good smart assed retort.

Ivan... sounds good. Let us know how it turns out.

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There were hundreds of nice looking girls who met my general criteria, so I added "Goodfellas" as a search filter to narrow things down.

hooray for the internet

No love for adult-friendfinder?

I'm Dominican American (born in NYC) to be exact. Currently going to business school (my focus is management and organizations) at one of the ivy league schools on the east coast and graduating in late May. I am actually looking to go into govt work in either DC or NYC specifically economic development stuff (tax incentives, low-interest loans, etc) or alternatively doing some management consulting work at a consulting company. I also have some political aspirations so maybe I will go for some type of office one day, who knows. I majored in international relations (lots of poli sci in there) and economics during undergrad.

I thought about law school but I find law to be extremely boring (except RICO) so I opted for b-school instead. Good luck to you in your studies.

I have no account there. Match is the only one of those sites that doesn't creep me the fuck out.

So if you do a search on adultfriendfinder for "Goodfellas", does anything come up?

hahahaha, funny shit Ivan. Probably a lot of fat dudes with foods in their pic

Adult friendfinder...isn't that for people looking to swing and 3somes and all that?

And not for nothing, but I had to go to urban dictionary to look up "eiffel towered". You guys are killing me. Ol girl can't keep up with the lingo.

My apologies Five Felonies for taking this baby off track.

the best thing about creating a thread is it can lead the convo in any direction, besides it was funny

scarfo family hands down