Ivan a made guy over at real-deal?

Oh, and has anyone mentiones KC? Definitely KC, though only after Detroit and shortly before Chicago.

Yes.



Depending on what is meant by "gone", they might already be. If you mean unstructured/nonviable, then they're history. Apparently a couple of made guys are still around and active though.

It's Deitche, and thanks !

Welcome to the board Scott, nice to see one of the "professional" researchers here.

Thanks. Saw this board in the past and finally got around to joining.

wow that was a pretty entertaining argument haha. does he post anymore or did he get banned? i agree with some of his points though

lol this is funny

there all scumbags, some are rapist's some are gay, some dabbled in herion sales, some dabbled in child porn production.... by the year 2025 the mob will have been a small stain on the criminal world... guys are finally figuring out in this day and age the way to go is independent, and have a small non affiliated crew... like guys you grew up woth or extended family members etc... almost every new lcn member these days are junkies that is fact... most old timers actually didnt use drugs beleive it or not they were actually about the paper.

patriarca LCN will soon be dead, i would think places like upstate NY and kansas city, NOLA california have been on the decline fro awhile now..... none of these gys are 100 percent italian even some of the old timers... thats why there reaching for membership in all the worng places.

this is dead on

is there ANY action still going on in the Cleveland/Youngstown area? I know a few of the guys from the Danny Greene era are still alive but not sure if they have any involvement anymore.

Yeah there's still some stuff going on but not much. Probably 10-15 guys around still and not much structure.

There'll always be something going on in Collinwood.

the outfit is gonna be the next one to go.

Not even close. New England or DeCalvacantes will be next.

Bullshit, Dellacroce is right If anyone's gunna go extinct it's Chcago

Yeah almost extinct when a low level guy had almost 200k cash laying around and supposedly extorting businesses across the country. There's many low level Philly and New England guys like that.

granted, every single family has fallen on extremely hard times since the mid 80's, but the question is, who has fallen the hardest? i don't think its even up for debate. the outfit went from a huge, immensely powerful organisation that spanned a huge area of the western US to a few crews operating almost entirely within the city itself as well as the surrounding suburbs with a few minor exceptions. most agree that they were comparable to the 3 smaller ny families before this occurred.

fast forward to the present day. while the ny families have all felt the sting of L/E and attrition, none have fallen nearly as far as the outfit. people can and will make jokes about sinking ships ect, but the fact remains that even the weaker ny families have the resources, manpower, and diversity to outlast whats left of the outfit. combine that with the obvious split between the illegal and semi-legit factions of what remains in chicago and you potentially have a perfect storm.

if we are discussing who is next to cross the line from viable to non-viable, my vote is detroit hands down. lots of people already think thats the case. as far as the rest, we shall see. the next decade or so will tell us alot. will the outfit continue to go the semi-legit path, or might we see a bit of a resurgence at least as far as the street rackets are concerned? if we don't, than it's far from a stretch to think that the decalvacante's might outlast them due to a superior recruiting pool at the very least. unless something drastic changes, i see both philly and NE sticking around longer.

^^^ Why is this so hard to understand for you "Cornballs" sorry Cheech but I love to use the term when it applies.

I don't know why some people seem to think New England is on the verge of extinction. The Providence faction may be depleted at the moment but, if you look at the past decade, that family has been as active as any outside New York.

That may be one of the most uneducated, non-researched statements that I have ever seen on a public forum regarding the mafia. Obviously, you're not a member of Real Deal? Quit spewing shit that you can't back up with research.

idiot

I don't think the mob will ever completely be gone. Some small families may get much smaller, but may well grow again

Who you talking to?

ya ill back you on that part, very few low to mid level new england guys have net worth like that. but theyll stick ya to collect a 300 dollar monthly payment from a drug dealer, or interest on a 5 grand loan.... its really kind of petty these days. Thats why unafilated guys have a job and hustle these days, like a union job nad run numbers or drugs on the side.... if you dont have a job these days you stick out like a sore thumb. Angelesco pays his bills by shaking down drug dealers for hundreds of dollars on a weekly monthly basis, and is enlisted by bookies nd loansharks to give beatings and stabbings to collect there debts in return angelesco and other knuckleheads take a percentage of the money they collected. i dont know what kind of person would resort to borrowing money from these clowns.

Philly & Jersey will be gone long before Chicago.

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