for all the "research and reading" you claim to have done,you should be well aware that Montreal has been Bonanno territory for 50 years. Not like they just decided to try and set up shot in 2004 when Vito went away, or in 2006 after project collisee.

they must still have some connections or something the bonannos and the canadians. so mussolini what reason you suspect for sciascia being killed if it wasnt for the graziano thing?

Sciascia wask killed because he was siding with Vito Rizzuto over the Bonannos on issues. After the law enforcement crack downs in America the Rizzutos just became more and more independent and there wasn't really anything Massino could do about it they had their own problems going on. Massino had asked Rizzuto to send down a hit team to kill Robert Perino and he refused, thats when tensions started and Sciascia was the main meditator between Rizzuto and the Bonannos, but he sided with Vito on certain issues and accused Graziano of being high on drugs, so in 1999 Patrick DeFilippo shot Sciascia in the head in John Spirito's SUV

cheers pal!

Are you serious or just messing around..?

i think he means present day. we all know the history from galante in the 50's setting up shop etc thats not in dispute.

In the Epilogue of Mafia Inc. it is stated that law enforcement thought that after Operation Colisee the Bonannos were major players. Which is not suprising considering Montagna's presence until recent.

if they are, and i'm not sayin ur wrong but they cant be all that strong. if they were montagna would still be alive

I think there is a reason why Montagna was supposed to 'disappear' instead of being gunned down on the streets. If he would have just disappeared, it would have been harder to point the finger towards certain people.

what baffles me is why he would agree to go meet at all with all that happened leading up to it (lopresti killed). he should have seen this trap coming from a mile away.

He'll set up a meeting with someone that you absolutely trust, guaranteeing your safety. And at that meeting, you'll be assassinated.

lol. great movie

Guess Montagna should have watched his classics!

obviously lol

yh sonny i meant present day. sorry should of explained better

That's the most intriguing thing I've read re: Montagna getting killed. Either way, it would look like the Di Maulo/Desjardins side. With a disappear job or attempt at it, could it be certain Bonannos sacrificing a lamb for a renewed share with the Calabrians?

FWIW there is an article or 2 floating around out there claiming the reason Desjardins and company were arrested when they were was because there was a Bonanno hit squad looking for them.

Which Calabrians are you talking about?

I guess it would be the DiMaulo sponsored side. The guys aligned with Cotroni in the old days(Sicilians too) that are still alive. They surely still have some connection to the Bonnano. The guys who were recently killed up there seemed to have been a closing of bad accounts to placate another party and not retaliation for Montagna. Then why would Desjardins be at risk? Because him going would almost have to be allowed. Otherwise, the Bonanno presence in this just got sent home, officially.

usually if there is a credible threat they just warn them. it was reported that [BadWord] was warned before he fell, same with nick rizzuto sr. also back in the 80's gotti was warned by fbi when they knew the genovese were planning to hit him. i dont really buy into that theory that they were arrested because they knew a hit squad was out for them

Recent articles state that the murder of Giuseppe Colapelle is related to the murder of Montagna. He was killed because he had provided Desjardins' group with information. I think it would be immensely stupid if he was killed by his own guys in front of their own hangout.

i was just listening to a radio interview that andre cedilot (autor of mafia inc) gave to a local radio station up here in montreal. gave a pretty good broad review of whats going on since nick rizzuto jr was whacked. in that arcuri, montagna, desjardins, di maulo and mirarchi came together and tried to forge somekind of an alliance.

he doesnt give any reason as to why, but says that for some reason montagna started to act arrogantly, big ego etc. desjardins than approached montagna about it in a sitdown, saying something to the effect that that wasnt the arrangement and he needed to back act more reaonable. after that meeting montagna tried to kill desjardins. than desjardins faction than kills montagna. the only two left from the original alliance are di maulo and arcuri. now according to cedilot di maulo doesnt want to be boss, and than arcuri is "terrified" and is in semi hiding. again his words not mine.

looks like its back to we're it started, no leadership.

but its even possible that all this people (montagna, arcuri, mirachi, di maulo, desjardins etc.)were under the supervision of the bonanno's to get ride of rizzuto's who probably were working on their own in the latest years

i think it was just local gangsters with the backing of influential men in hamilton and toronto. after nick jr was killed, thats when things went into high gear, rizzuto enemies saw how weak they were, it was the right time to strike

i doubt it, like all the people involved are in some way or another linked with the bonanno's, dimaulo himself was a bonanno member... i bet that the war between montagna and the other faction was for who's the new bonanno's captain in montreal

i think that has very little to do with it

Both Di Maulo and Desjardins have established ties to the Bonanno family since at least the early 1970s. They accompanied Paolo Violi to represent Montreal's vote for the election of Rastelli in 1973. Di Maulo was a close Cotroni associate since 1960 and has been part of the Montreal decina since. When Vitale met with Vito Rizzuto in Montreal, Di Maulo was also present and later took Vitale with him to introduce him to others. A week before Desjardins faced an attempt on his life he was seen traveling to New York.

we all agree there is long established ties between montreal, ny. my point being i dont think ny has as much influence present day as many seem to believe.

i dont see how can have influence hamilton or toronto, montagna was involved in this war and he was the bonanno's acting boss, the bonanno's are clearly involved

everyone seems to forget that montagna was in montreal only because he was kicked out of the usa by the govt. if it wasnt for legal trouble he woule be in nyc