It's not the Rizzutos hitting back, it's the same group who's been doing this since day 1.

It was not the same "group" anymore because Montagna was previously also part of it.

Montagna was part of a group, most likely new Sicilians backed up Ontario. The same group is still gunning for them, eliminating any rebellious factions who don't fall in line.

Montagna, Lopresti and Desjardins were the result of wanting to break off I believe.

So you think the groups isn't led by Di Maulo and the Cotronis?

Di Maulo-Cotroni group is part of the coalition, but the main source of vendetta is Hamilton.

Di Maulo-Cotroni group is part of the coalition, but the main source of vendetta is Hamilton.

But you mentioned Sicilians, possibly the Arcuris?

maybe montagna group allied with di maulo at first to took over the rizzuto's and after deleting them the two groups started fighting eachother
but montagna answers to bonanno's he didn't do all by himself

i think that ontario groups have absolutely nothing to do with it, the fact that some italian journalists clown said it doesn't mean it's the truth
so according to you the ontario grous who are historically far weaker than montreal mafai moved war to rizzuto's and montagna? it's impossible

i think they are weaker and according to local police they are weaker i bet
the growing ndrangheta in italy is right, but in canada the sicilians remain the strongest group by far

i never said they dominate the heroin or cocaine trade, they are sure involved but nobody really dominates it
but sure the sicilian cells in canada far exceed the calabrian ones in that country

Montagna was close to the Arcuris........so yes that makes them part of the plot.

Not in terms of numbers or population that's for sure.

9 Locals and Hamilton's 3 groups far exceed the Sicilian numbers in 2011.

The thing is, while the murders of Rizzuto and his allies seemed to be very well plannend and carried out with extreme efficiency, Montagna's murder certainly was not. This means that it was probably carried out by another group.

If the assumptions about that supposed mob meeting are true, I'm considering two possible scenarios:

1. Montagna could have been involved in a dispute with Montreal AND Ontario mafiosi, and his murder could therefore have been ordered by Ontario and carried out by local mobsters.

Or,

2. Montagna AND Ontario mafiosi became involved in a dispute with Montreal mafiosi which suggests a possible break in that coalition.

Both are equally plausible IMO. But I'm tending to believe more in the second scenario. If Montagna knew he had no more allies, he would have likely been more warry to meet with other gangsters, possibly even unarmed and without a bodyguard. Montagna's trips to Ontario, and considering that the first murders were most likely organized by Hamilton, suggest he was allied with Ontario mobsters.

where did you hear montagna met ontario mobsters? i heard he met nick rizzuto and told him to stay away but any meeting in ontario

if montagna like you said can't be able to run montreal i don't see like anyone from ontario could

Montagna was a middle man for both groups and was trying to become top dog in Montreal while doing so.

The next murder will determine what`s going on but there seems to be a pattern and so far, anybody Sicilian and close to the Rizzuto or involved with them is being executed.

Montagna wanted a big slice and truth be told, why would some Bonnano boss be able to run Montreal?......he`s only lived here for two years and could have all the contacts in the world, but he`s not part of local social fabric.