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Penn State sexual abuse scandal #619764
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Of all the ugly things that happen in sports, this may be the ugliest of all-time. A former assistant coach is alleged to have sexually abused 8 young boys in a 15 year time period. One alleged incident was witnessed by a graduate assistant who saw a boy sodomized by the assistant coach in the Penn State shower. Yahoo Sports

Joe Paterno might be legally cleared, but how he has slept at night all these years is beyond me. He has FOREVER ruined his reputation if he did turn a blind eye to this inexcusable behavior. Indications are that he told the PSU administration, but he had a moral obligation to do more and he (along with other PSU officials) were silent.

I for one hope that Sandusky is on suicide watch. He does not deserve to get off that easy if he did even 1/100th of these allegations. He deserves to have the shit kicked out of him and much worse for the rest of his life in prison. It just infuriates me that someone could do this to children.

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I'm heartbroken by Paterno's turning a blind eye to this, Goom. It's like finding out that one of your old parish priests was a pedophile. He has that grandfatherly way about him, so it almost feels like a personal betrayal.

Some of my friends here already know this, but I should add that my youngest daughter is a sophomore at Penn State right now. She told me over the weekend that the entire campus is reeling over this.


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I have heard a few bits and pieces about this even over here.
Absolutely awful......


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Paterno has canceled his weekly news conference. I think he's on his way out. I expect an announcement that this will be his last season. PS has to put this behind them. However, the legal machinations could continue beyond the season. I expect those charged will plea bargain. However, the inevitable civil suits will stretch this out well beyond the season.


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Re: Penn State sexual abuse scandal [Re: goombah] #619820
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I hate everything Penn St, but I dont wish this on anybody. Joe Paterno is a fraud. Penn St University is a disgrace. Roll Tide.

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Re: Penn State sexual abuse scandal [Re: goombah] #619829
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Sad that this is how "JoePa" exits.

But, I don't feel bad for him at all.

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The disturbing thing about Sandusky is that he is not even proclaiming his innocence. I mean Michael Jackson who i belive was guilty came out immediately to say he didn't do it. Sandusky doesn't seem to give a fuck. Thats just as disturbing as the disgusting things he did

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How can assistant coach Mike Mcquery see Sandusky in the showers with a 10 year old boy and not beat his ass and protect that boy. Wtf.

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Originally Posted By: flamingokid123
How can assistant coach Mike Mcquery see Sandusky in the showers with a 10 year old boy and not beat his ass and protect that boy. Wtf.

If I saw that i would beat the shit out of the guy

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The NCAA better step up to the plate and shut down the PSU football program. If after an investigation it is determined that 1) any of Sandusky's attacks occurred on the PSU campus, or 2) any incident occurred after PSU officials were notified then this is the worst collegiate scandal in the history of sports.

The NCAA has been a hypocrisy for many years, but they must shut down the program if crimes occurred. For pete's sake, if they suspend OSU, Miami, and USC for misdemeanors, then they must shut down Penn State for felony crimes. There is no other way for the NCAA to act.

And isn't it curious that the Sandusky has been under investigation for many months, yet the news of his arrest and the breaking of this story came just after Joe Pa broke the record for coaching victories. I'm sure that was not coincidental.

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this is the saddest thing i have ever seen. i just hope sandusky gets his in jail, as well as those who let it continued.

and, i believe that penn state needs to lose all their coaches, as well as those that run the school.

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Well, Paterno isgone at the end of the season, but the lawsuits will keep this in the news maybe for years.


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I'm sorry but there is no way Paterno should be able to retire at year's end. He should be fired immediately.

I agree Olivant. The victims' families will (and should) sue for quite some time. Penn State's very existence will be hanging in the balance. I'm sorry that such a drastic result could hurt so many who are innocent in all of this, but this is about as hideous a crime as is possible short of murder.

At the very least, the President, all Board of Trustees, the Provost and other PSU administration, plus every person involved with the football team and the Athletic Dept all need to be fired.

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Originally Posted By: goombah
I'm sorry but there is no way Paterno should be able to retire at year's end. He should be fired immediately.

I agree Olivant. The victims' families will (and should) sue for quite some time. Penn State's very existence will be hanging in the balance. I'm sorry that such a drastic result could hurt so many who are innocent in all of this, but this is about as hideous a crime as is possible short of murder.

At the very least, the President, all Board of Trustees, the Provost and other PSU administration, plus every person involved with the football team and the Athletic Dept all need to be fired.
Agreed

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Joe Pa is gone!

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FOX Sports --Updated Nov 9, 2011 10:23 PM ET
Penn State football coach Joe Paterno was fired late Wednesday night as the result of a growing child-sex scandal that has engulfed the program. The move is effective immediately meaning he will never coach for the school again. President Graham Spanier was also fired.


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I think people need to remember jerry Sandusky is the scumbag. i understand Paterno could have done more but i dont think joe is an evil person I think he was naive and was fooled by Sandusky. I agree with him losing his job but I think he is getting more blame the the sick fuck that did it. Also people need to remember the cops were in the next room when Sandusky admitted his disgusting acts to the kids mother and did not arrest him. the cops are the real frauds

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Law and Order SVU had a sports themed episode earlier this year covering the same issue.

Carmelo Anthony and Chris Bosh guest starred.

Heavy D (RIP) starred in it also, he was the star pro player's assistant.
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sad sad story....

I shudder whenever I hear about these types of stories because I played organized sports and attended camps/trips as a kid and
could have been in vulnerable situations just like the young men in this story.

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Re: Penn State sexual abuse scandal [Re: JCrusher] #619968
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Originally Posted By: JCrusher
I think people need to remember jerry Sandusky is the scumbag. i understand Paterno could have done more but i dont think joe is an evil person I think he was naive and was fooled by Sandusky. I agree with him losing his job but I think he is getting more blame the the sick fuck that did it. Also people need to remember the cops were in the next room when Sandusky admitted his disgusting acts to the kids mother and did not arrest him. the cops are the real frauds


While I do not agree with everything you say, I agree that Paterno is not evil. However, he did deserve to lose his job because he did not do enough to follow through on an ethical basis. While he may have his ass legally covered (and I agree he should not be jailed), he did have a responsibility as a father, father-figure, grandfather, and coach to make sure all authorities (PSU and local police) were made aware of Sandusky's sickening behavior.

I also disagree with your statement that the cops are the "real frauds." There are far too many people and departments than just to single out the police. The District Attorney did not press charges initially, McQueary and his father should have done more than just tell Paterno, the PSU police, and on & on.

The bottom line for this was Paterno's power and money. Let's face it - football was the lifeblood of Penn State and nobody wanted to see that apple cart upset. Instead of getting out in front of this situation, everyone involved all of these years put the entire university at risk.


Unrelated to your post, what exactly were those several hundred idiots rioting for last night? Did they read the indictment against Sandusky? Penn State had NO CHOICE but to fire Paterno for his role in this. Was it bad to dismiss a coach over the phone - probably. But the issues here are unprecedented in sports. Children's lives were irrevocably changed by Jerry Sandusky and these idiot rioters were protesting the dismissal of a football coach?

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The Sandusky Grand Jury Report.

http://cbschicago.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/sandusky-grand-jury-presentment.pdf

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Unfortunately, that doesn't surprise me one bit. In such cults that is sports fandom, winning is what matters. Nothing else does. Its why Steelers fans forgave their Quarterback for being a two-time alleged rapist, or football fans putting Mr. Vick's past troubles under the bus.

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1982 SI article about how Sandusky was turning down NFL and college head coaching jobs at age 38 because he was so "committed" to the youth program he ran in State College, PA.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1126185/1/index.htm

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What I want to know is how could anyone witness a 10 year old being sodomized in a shower, and walk away?? What kind of person turns their back on a child in such a situation? It's beyond my comprehension. Forget about calling the police, but how can you turn your back on a rape? You just walk away and let the rapist continue?


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You're supposed to kill the guy mad.

Seriously, you are.


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Pennsylvania statutes cite a host of persons, primarily those licensed by the state, to report or cause to be reported suspected child abuse. However, others who are employed by an institution (such as a university) who are not otherwise required to report, are required to notify their superior of suspected child abuse.

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I was wondering why this story wasn't on the BB. Anyone who knows me knows I'm ignorant on sports so didn't even think of looking here. tongue

Don't fall over BUT I have never heard of Paterno, or Sandusky but how absolutely awful.I can NOT understand how someone can witness things like this and not call the police (or make sure someone calls police) I understand that he'll retire at the end of the year? I think he should leave now.

Now, I see a story that says Sandusky may have pimped out young boys to rich doners. frown Simply unspeakable.


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Madonne TIS, how could you not know? This is not a sports story. It's been on every network news show just about 24/7 (Cain owes the story a thank you).

Paterno is the winningest coach in college football history. He's a living legend at Penn State (if not elsewhere) where students rioted last night on campus in protest of his termination. It's not over by any means as there is the eventual prosecution and inevitable civil suits.


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