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Re: Philadelphia's Irish Mob [Re: AmericanCrime] #695782
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I think the last viable and concrete Irish-American racketeer leader to come outta the K&A, would have to be John Berkery in the 1980s. Well, unless you count the vaguely Irish meth guys that were left with the remnants after he went AWOL.

Everything else is really just insubstantial rumormongering.

Altho, I'm sure there's still little crews and independent crooks in the Northeast of Irish descent.

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Originally Posted By: AmericanCrime
Yeah I heard about the Seamus O'Neill thing a while back. Some posts I've seen wanna attribute into some sort of Irish-American OC thing, which I mentioned in my first post.

I didn't, however, know the details about John McLaughlin. That he had a stake McWhitey's in the Northeast or that he considered himself a gangster and was mildly feared amongst the locals as the article suggest.
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Wasn't some of these guys the last of the Alamo for the white street kids in North Philly? Kensington is where these crackpots pitched their battles with the Spanish and the Ricans and the blacks. This was back in the early 90's and McLaughin was part of the crew involved in this battle which is why when he later owned the bar he called the bar 'McWhitey's' cos it weren't exactly a tribute to Whitey Bulger if you catch my drift. He wanted the white power to prevail in the neighborhood and there were some pretty fierce disputes. In 89 he was stabbed in the chest in a battle between whites and the hispanics.
http://articles.philly.com/1989-10-17/news/26118083_1_youths-ontario-streets-john-mclaughlin

In this piece Fran Conway talks about how the neighbourhood was beginning to go to shit with the turf war with the spanish etc... http://articles.philly.com/1991-10-06/news/25816608_1_gangs-black-families-younger-kids/4

Kensington is quite a tough neighborhood today from what I hear so it must have been a real junkyard back then. Hear they have cops on every corner now to stamp on those looking to cop shit in the neighborhood.

Closest you'll probably get to an Irish mob boss in the North East these days is one of the leaders of those white pride type gangs. Not sure if Dead Man Inc has any followers in Philly but in Maryland and Brooklyn it has members and down in Texas James Sweeeney has just pled out to avoid the chair or some shit over some murder rap in Texas. Always an Irish guy wrapped up in this bullshit these days though not sure if these are white pride as they were sposed to have a thing with the Black Guerilla family though down in Texas that BFG shit ain't gonna fly with those Aryan dudes. http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2013-01...l-gang-dead-man


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Originally Posted By: AmericanCrime
I think the last viable and concrete Irish-American racketeer leader to come outta the K&A, would have to be John Berkery in the 1980s. Well, unless you count the vaguely Irish meth guys that were left with the remnants after he went AWOL.

Everything else is really just insubstantial rumormongering.

Altho, I'm sure there's still little crews and independent crooks in the Northeast of Irish descent.


Berkery was like a living legend in the philly area. I forget if it was picked up on tape or if someone testified about it but Angelo Bruno supposedly said he loved Berkery and that he would of made him in a second if he was italian. Berkery and Long John were around Bruno all the time and he never made Martorano but he said he would of made Berkery. Go figure. lol

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Originally Posted By: Giancarlo
Originally Posted By: AmericanCrime
I think the last viable and concrete Irish-American racketeer leader to come outta the K&A, would have to be John Berkery in the 1980s. Well, unless you count the vaguely Irish meth guys that were left with the remnants after he went AWOL.

Everything else is really just insubstantial rumormongering.

Altho, I'm sure there's still little crews and independent crooks in the Northeast of Irish descent.


Berkery was like a living legend in the philly area. I forget if it was picked up on tape or if someone testified about it but Angelo Bruno supposedly said he loved Berkery and that he would of made him in a second if he was italian. Berkery and Long John were around Bruno all the time and he never made Martorano but he said he would of made Berkery. Go figure. lol


They were real tight. Bruno was the Godfather to Berkery's son too and Berkery also had another son whose Godfather was a made guy from South Jersey I think.

When some guy called Hornblum was doing a book on the K&A crew he wanted to keep a lid on it cos he didn't want his name in any way associated to the burglary thing.


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Re: Philadelphia's Irish Mob [Re: SEAN_SOUTH] #695925
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Originally Posted By: SEAN_SOUTH
Wasn't some of these guys the last of the Alamo for the white street kids in North Philly? ...
http://articles.philly.com/1989-10-17/news/26118083_1_youths-ontario-streets-john-mclaughlin

Yep, that's the guy. It checks out. Altho I didn't know about his whitepower history. How ironic that he got pinched for batterying a ol' FOB mick to death.

Originally Posted By: Giancarlo

Berkery was like a living legend in the philly area. I forget if it was picked up on tape or if someone testified about it but Angelo Bruno supposedly said he loved Berkery and that he would of made him in a second if he was italian. Berkery and Long John were around Bruno all the time and he never made Martorano but he said he would of made Berkery. Go figure. lol


Yeah he's a really interesting figure int he Philadelphia OC crime scene. Had a definite hand in making Philly the "Meth Capitol of the World" in the 80. Ofc. along with the regulars. Pagans, Chelsais Bouras, John Martorano, Ronald Raiton etc etc.

Originally Posted By: SEAN_SOUTH
When some guy called Hornblum was doing a book on the K&A crew he wanted to keep a lid on it cos he didn't want his name in any way associated to the burglary thing.


Yeah tell me about it. He's a bit of a spaz when it comes to his image. He tried to sue Hornblum IIRC, and I believe he's gone straight and is a lawyer now.

He has even taken to having his people deface Wikipedia to remove his name out of relevant articles. Curious how someone like that can turn things around. Esp. when his crew was known for doing burglaries up and down the eastern seaboard for decades.

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the irish crew is in Delaware county very secretive and low profile,the best criminals are the one you never hear about

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there is a guy in Delaware county called the bulldog he runs the irish and nobody does a thing without his approval,he went to war with the boyle st boys out of chester.he is more of an urban legend they say he is a little guy but crazier than hell

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there is a guy in Delaware county called the bulldog he runs the irish and nobody does a thing without his approval,he went to war with the boyle st boys out of chester.he is more of an urban legend they say he is a little guy but crazier than hell

Stonehurst/Bywood born, bred, and based and most of my "crazier" neighbors of Irish (or Italian or any white for that matter) descent in Delco are too busy sampling Chester's finest wares to fight a war with them. I see the same in Clifton, Collingdale, Drexel Hill and everywhere in between.

So yeah, I don't believe you.

For those who want to know what became of the K&A gang here are some examples of the kids of the K&A gang doing like daddy did.

http://articles.philly.com/2001-04-20/ne...ng-gang-members

http://www.thereporteronline.com/article/RO/20071207/TMP01/312079990

Re: Philadelphia's Irish Mob [Re: SEAN_SOUTH] #765688
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I live in Baltimore and ive seen some of these Dead Man Inc kids. they are all dopeheads, far from racketeers..


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Originally Posted By: SEAN_SOUTH


Wasn't some of these guys the last of the Alamo for the white street kids in North Philly? Kensington is where these crackpots pitched their battles with the Spanish and the Ricans and the blacks. This was back in the early 90's and McLaughin was part of the crew involved in this battle which is why when he later owned the bar he called the bar 'McWhitey's' cos it weren't exactly a tribute to Whitey Bulger if you catch my drift. He wanted the white power to prevail in the neighborhood and there were some pretty fierce disputes. In 89 he was stabbed in the chest in a battle between whites and the hispanics.
http://articles.philly.com/1989-10-17/news/26118083_1_youths-ontario-streets-john-mclaughlin




i found this video of kensington back in 1982 its from i guess the white area. It looked pretty depressing back then swell.


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Originally Posted By: HandsomeStevie
I live in Baltimore and ive seen some of these Dead Man Inc kids. they are all dopeheads, far from racketeers..


I think they are mostly a prison based gang and the only real viable group for white inmates in the maryland system. Not really been much evidence of them out on the streets as an organised force like the BGF or other drug crews.

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I live in Baltimore and ive seen some of these Dead Man Inc kids. they are all dopeheads, far from racketeers..

Most, if not all, white street guys are dopers (even in the younger guys in the Mafia nowadays). If they weren't they'd be earning more and longer money legitimately or in white collar fraud. Other groups are locked out of certain things in a way white men and women are not.


i found this video of kensington back in 1982 its from i guess the white area. It looked pretty depressing back then swell.

It was and is depressing. If you can imagine it got even worse. It was scummy back then. It's dangerous now.

Less graffiti now though.

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Re: Philadelphia's Irish Mob [Re: AmericanCrime] #786471
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UPDATE

John Berkery, "alleged" Philly crime figure and associateofAngeloBruno justput out two self-published books. They are of a thinly veiled autobiographical nature.

Books by JC Berkery


I bought the second one causethats the era thatreally interests me. I havent read it in depth, but skimmed a few pages. Theres tons of mention ofintermingling with the LCN. Raymond Martorano, Bruno, Bouras, Raiton, Pagans all the bignames of the Scarfo/Bruno era.

Kinda funny that he sued Hornblum for libel years prior to putting out his own books. Hell maybe that's the reason. Eliminate the competition.

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im in port richmond, and i know a couple of the the guys involved in the meth ring years ago have recently been released prison. cant remember names though. Berkery is legend down here.

Re: Philadelphia's Irish Mob [Re: moolou] #957416
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Not true. Not even close to true. The Irish know where the irish neighborhoods are. Just trust me that's flat out wrong.

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so cocky and sooo wrong. I can see that people on this thread are not from N.Y. and have zero idea how shit works

Re: Philadelphia's Irish Mob [Re: AmericanCrime] #957438
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The last remnants of the K&A gang were the Traitz brothers crew which had a meth ring before they were indicted/ sentenced in the early 2000s. There also aren't really any predominantly Irish neighborhoods left like Kensington, Grays Ferry, Mayfair and Pennsport once were.

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Originally Posted by irishkaos
The last remnants of the K&A gang were the Traitz brothers crew which had a meth ring before they were indicted/ sentenced in the early 2000s. There also aren't really any predominantly Irish neighborhoods left like Kensington, Grays Ferry, Mayfair and Pennsport once were.

For an all out good read on the K&A gang, please get yourself a copy of " Second Story Man"...cant remember the authors name, & I lent my copy to my bro-in- law & havent seen it back yet....good read though. there r a predominant Irish population still in Kensington though & the older dudes sitting in the corner bars(which r on EVERY corner) r full of stories.


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has that mystery of the boston guy having a heart attache on the philly subway been solved he was a teamster with like 250k cash on him a few yrs back

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Pmac- Never heard another word about that.

Supposedly the guy had connections to Skinny Joey in Philly I remember and he dropped dead of a heart attack at Penn Station NY on the train platform with a book bag filled with 250k. Why couldn’t I have found that book bag , FML....

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