who knows about the camorran and corsican mafia structures. for example cosa nostra: boss, underboss, capo, soldier, associate. didnt know if i should put consigliere under the boss or under the underboss.

and does the structure from sicily differ from the american structure?

hey you copying my thread on corsicans how dare you, just kidding, anyway of what i believe camorra and corsican mafia structures descend differently the camorra descends from the spanish and the american structure descends from the sicilians. the corsicans i couldn't tell ya there so quiet more quiet than sicilians.

As I understand it a camorra structure differs from a Sicilian one in that it is a horizontal structure whereas a mafia one is more of a hierarchical vertical structure, there are many capo's and street capo's loosely organized in the camorra making it easy to replace them if there murdered or arrested.

camorra clans die and born frequently, because are many differente from mafia structure: an example the Di Lauro at his peek have 200 men and controlled many quarter Scampia,le vele, secondigliano,le case celesti etc every quarter have a capozona (chief of the zone), under the capozone there are the sentinels and the pusher payed 800/1000 euros for month,there also the Gruppo di Fuoco (Fire Group) that are payed for kill the enemy, a group of fire is composted by many young man under the 18, they use cocaine for forget the fear and kill better.
This is a chart of the di lauro clan before the scampia feud

http://hotfile.com/dl/132064804/e39b642/dilauro.pdf.html

welll i wondered about these structures after i read your thread . and nicky what do you mean by horizontal structure is it the same thing as furio posted? btw thanks for the chart furio

Thats very nice! thanks Furio. I personaly think that only the Cosa Nostra has a unique structure, all the others, Camorra, Russian, Turkish, Yakuza and other criminal organizations have a similair type of structure/hierarchy.

I mean that in a cosa nostra it is very regimented from the boss at the top to the lowest soldier a vertical structure, whereas in the camorra, yes like the chart it is looser and spread out.

Speaking of which...the Camorra has no "made" ceremony. You just earn your respect on the streets...that's it.
It's the only one in the big 4 not to have one.

I'd compare the Camorra to some Mexican cartels. The are formed, divided and wiped out in a blink...and they ain't afraid of using kid-hitmen.

I have no idea about the Corsicans, but I doubt that they have one.

the oly case in the camorra history in which there are a vertical structure and a ''made'' ceremony was with the NCO (nuova Camorra Organizzata) new organizated camorra that from 1974 until 1983 has ruled in Campany, take a look to this video

What is the 'Ndrangheta ceremony like? Is it similar to Cosa Nostra?

furio do you also know an answer on these questions:
who could be considered capo di tutti capi in campania?
what is the strongest family in campania?
wich family lasted the longest out of all these clans since they go defunct pretty fast.
what is the vow of silence called wich the campanians use?

I do not have answers for every question I only know that, in Campania, there is no capo di tutti i capi, Cutolo tried, in the 80s he got close, but then failed miserably,
The strongest family in Campania are the Casalesi
The historical family Alfieri, Giuliano, i don't know another name of clan
the 'Frieno'

thanks anyways.

yes the 'ndrangheta ceremony and camorra ceremony are similar to cosa nostra, the burning saint etc...
the strongest families in campania should be casalesi, nuvoletta, di lauro, mazzarella, russo

It depends what would you guys reckon as "similar".

'Ndrangheta's ceremony is the LCN's one...on steroids!
I read about every detail in a book about the involvment of the Calabrians in Northern Italy construction industry.
A Milano Comanda La 'Ndrangheta "Milan is led by the 'Ndrangheta" by Giuseppe Caruso and Davide Carlucci.
There is an entire chapter where a Calabrian made guy-turned rat describes his ceremony (happened in 2007).
It's simply shocking. It's longer, twister, you have to study and entire oath, there is an exchange of oaths, body and hand gestures have a meaning too.

AND...If all this wasn't enough...there are 6 different ceremonies, or "bapthisisms", each makes the affiliate move a little bit higher towards the top.
I couldn't find it in English, but the Italian wikipedia has a pretty detailed version Riti della 'Ndrangheta .

Italian-Canadian writer Antonio Nicaso wrote a remarkable book on the history (past and present) of the 'Ndrangheta.
Fratelli Di Sangue literally "Blood Brothers".

Every detail is there.

They are not alike. Where do you come up with this?

they are similar, the burning saint at the end is the same in cosa nostra, ndrangheta, camorra and sacra corona
yeah the ndrangheta ceremony is longer than the others, it's like cosa nostra's one in the 1800s, but they are similar and have common origins

Camorra has no ceremony.
Cutolo did it during his brief reign at the top of the NCO (as shown by Furio)...but when he was taken down, the ceremony went down with him.

Camorra's structure differs from LCN in many ways. Since that there is no ceremony and it values associates more on what they do rather that on their seniority, it's more common to have a guy in his 30s leading guys in their 60s. Something like this is very unlikely (it happens but not as much) in the LCN and 'Ndrangheta.

Sacra Corona Unita is more "blue collar", you have to read an oath and swear on the family's patron saint.
It's half the time of the Sicilian ceremony, which is itself way shorter than the 'Ndrangheta's.

Also, the fact that the 'Ndrangheta has 6 different ceremonies makes it very different from LCN.
The LCN always had just one, in Italy or elsewhere.

most of camorra families have cerimony, nuvoletta, casalesi and several others

i translate the oath of the video

I baptisted this place, as the baptized, our three old, if they named it with irons and chains, I baptize you with irons and chains.
Raise my eyes to the sky and see a star fly, and you have baptized the place with words of omertà and formed society.
Tell me guagliò, youare in search of what?
Of my qualification, as young honored.
How heavy is a picciotto?
Spread as a feather in the wind.
And what does represents an picciotto?
A sentinel of omerta, which goes round and round, all you see, hear and get paid, brings to the society.
If you betray,this bread will become lead and this wine will become poison.
If I knew you first as a young man of honor, from this point forward I recognize you as a picciotto belonging to this body of this company.

i never heard about that

Just in case anyone didn't realize what a picciotto is, it's a small child, but you all probably knew that.

I KNEW THAT! Well no, actually i didn't.