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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #690093
01/11/13 05:33 PM
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Looks good. I thought everyone said
Leonard Falzone was boss

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #690096
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We dont have any source on who is boss, he used to be consiglieri and after that supposedly underboss. Some say hes the boss now, but others claim not. Its like taking a gamble when your making a chart smile
cant statisfy everyone


Up to date mafia charts --> https://cosanostracharts.wordpress.com/
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #690107
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i corrected the soldiers, no more associates because it gets confusing.

http://www.freeuploadshare.com/image/Buffalo_Cosa_Nostra_family.jpg


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #690271
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Great job, Muk. Do you think you should add James Feliciano, the 35 year old as a member? He was born in 1977. I don't know if he really was made. What do you or Ivy think?

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #690735
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Those are some really nice charts you made Mukremin. Looks like you put in a lot of effort to make them.

Thanks for posting them.

I really liked all the photo's you used on them too.

It was a pretty big download for a chart and i had trouble the first couple times getting the complete chart but in the end i did download them.

Thanks again, keep up the good work. cool

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #691348
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I really liked all the photo's you used on them too.Every thing is clear and there is no ambiguity at all.

Thanks for sharing.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #694230
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links are dead pls somebody update

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Ivan] #694708
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Don't be fooled by their looks. I know (or knew) many of these guys and they are intelligent in a way that most of us aren't. They're ruthless, treacherous and have no conscience, which makes for a very dangerous person. They are experts in survival, street style. Extreme caution is warranted.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #694869
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SicilianJohn,

I mean no bad with this trust me bro but what the hell do you mean by that comment.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Scalish] #695167
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Scalish, I'm still trying to get used to this site so I probably could have made myself clearer. Earlier in this thread sveral people were posting things like:

"Looking at all those guys, most of them don't look very bright. Talking about the 'general attrition' hypothesis. It's not like it used to be... But looks can be deceiving though. wink"

So I answered them but probably put it in the wrong place.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #695214
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SicilianJohn,

All good my man. Just did not get but now I do. Welcome to the board bro.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #695239
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Sicilian john, reppin da HB.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Skinny] #695369
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I have recently read 2 books about the 'ndrangheta in the province of Cosenza which have some rare photos and descriptions of less known facts about the mafia wars in the 70s and the 80s. So I made some charts (incomplete, unfortunately) and translated a couple of pages from one of the books so you understand what are the charts about:

The Cosenza province has been the last one of the Calabrian provinces to end up in the grip of the ‘ndrangheta. In 1903 86 people have been convicted for gang association. Their leader was Stanislao De Luca, a young man from a good family, aided by one Francesco De Francesco, nickamed “za Peppa”. The clan had initiation rites similar to the ones of the “picciotteria” of Reggio and Catanzaro.
After that, the criminal organizations remained unnoticed for a long time. From the 30s to the 60s one of the most feared bosses was Luigi Pennino, a freelance photographer, very good at using the knife.
The clans drew attention to them again when Luigi Palermo, nicknamed “Zorro”, a boss who made career under Pennino, has been killed in Cosenza 14 December 1977. It was Franco Pino, a young ambitious gangster, who ordered his murder. A war without quarter started. The Muto clan of Cetraro, the Basile-Calvano of San Lucido and the boss Giuseppe Cirillo (the trusted man of Raffaele Cutolo’s New Organized Camorra in the Sibari area) took the side of Franco Pino and his main ally, Antonio Sena.
The Pranno brothers and the Vitellis, the Africanos of Amantea and the Serpas of Paola chose to take the side of Franco Perna, the killed boss’s nephew-in law instead.
The war continued until the end of the 80s. Dozens of people have been killed, including a 12-year-old boy, Pasqualino Perri, the son of a businessman close to the Pino-Sena group. Another significant episode of this violent conflict was the murder by the Pino-Sena group of two members of the Reggio ‘ndrangheta the 6 August 1983 in Scalea, at the request of the clans of Reggio Calabria headed by Pasquale Condello and Giovanni Fontana. In Cetraro, Giannino Lo Sardo was killed, chief secretary of the Public Prosecutor’s office in Paola and Comunist councillor, an enemy of the clans of the Cozenza province.
“They only kill each other, it’s better to wait”. That’s what was often heard in Cosenza during the 80s. The fighting clans hunted each other like beasts. To kill the enemy, before he kills you.
At the end of the 80s, after dozens of murders, a “pax mafiosa” (mafia peace) was established, although it was short-lived because of the detachment of the Bartolomeo-Notargiacomo group from the Perna-Pranno-Vitelli clan. It was then that the murder of Sergio Cosmai, the director of the Cosenza prison, was committed. “My husband”, Tiziana Palazzo says, “has been killed by the ‘ndrangheta because he was a state official who believed in the respect of the law”. Before Cosmai’s arrival, the imprisoned clan members of Cosenza lived by small and big privileges. 21 June 1983 there was a mutiny. The prisoners wanted the lengthening of out-of-cell time. The director of the prison decided to use severe methods. Some prison guards used batons to convince the prisoners to re-enter their cells. Even the boss Francesco Perna didn’t avoid being beaten by the guards. And he remembered this very well. “I want a 12-caliber sawed-off shotgun” he is alleged to have said in prison “because when I will shoot him, I have to disfigure him, I must reduce him to such conditions to make him unrecognizable”.
12 March 1985 Cosmai was killed by a Perna clan hitman while he was in his Fiat 500 on the way to take his daughter from school.
The second mafia war was also a massacre. One of the most ferocious episodes was the murder of the brothers Stefano and Giuseppe Bartolomeo, 24 and 26 years old, kidnapped 5 January 1991. The bodies of the two brothers were dissolved in acid, as the murderers Aldo Acri’, Ferdinando Vitelli, Angelo Santolla and Mario Pranno declared. An underage boy, Francesco Bruni, was killed in November 1991 to take revenge on his father, considered responsible for the death of Francesco Carelli, close to the Pranno-Vitelli group. He was 16 years old. He was found with his throat slit, strangled with an iron wire in a ravine among the woods under Montescuro, one of the tallest Mountains of the Silan highland.
During the operation “Missing” in October 2006 a quarter of the century of mafia wars in the Cosenza province has been reconstructed, with the arrest of the bosses Giuseppe Irilli and Domenico Cicero, top members of the former Perna-Pranno clan, and the brothers Michele and Pasquale Bruni, bosses of the homonymous clan. Francesco Muto, the boss of Cetraro, and the bosses of San Lucido and Paola, Romeo Calvano and Giuliano Serpa, were also indicted.
Thanks to the decimation of the ‘ndrine of Crari, the so-called “gypsy clan” took over the drug trafficking. Only in December 2007 the antimafia law about the assets sequestration was applied for the first time.

The end of the 70s:


The Pino clan during the 80s:


The Perna clan during the 80s:


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Dwalin2011] #695467
02/09/13 02:33 PM
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I don´t know anything about these guys, but I can see the effort behind the charts. Good work!


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: DonMega] #695490
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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #695891
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Nice work.
Don't like the design, but I guess this isn't an art contest...

Any updated chart of Detroit?

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: LuanKuci] #696137
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I found this document about the trial of some 'ndrangheta groups for the gang war that happened in the 80s (unfortunately it's only available in Italian).

http://www.stopndrangheta.it/file/stopndrangheta_439.pdf

If I got it right, it describes the groups as they were at the moment of the arrests made in 1992, with the so-called operation "Olimpia".
Here I tried to make a chart of the Libri 'ndrina. However, I put on it only the members listed in the document and they seem too few for one of the most powerful 'ndrangheta clans. Maybe they weren't able to identify the other members back then. Maybe somebody could provide information to complete the chart?


Last edited by Dwalin2011; 02/12/13 07:14 PM.

Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #696138
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Some handsome fella's there!


"Because I'm the Boss"

Tony Salerno
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #696175
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Marios nickname must be Fabio

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #697452
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Very cool charts! Thank you for posting all of them.


*** il capo di tutti capi ***

"You'll never meet another guy like me if you live to be 5, 000." -John Gotti
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #697592
02/18/13 06:07 PM
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Siderno Group chart I found on a weird Canadian football hooligans' site:


http://canadianfootball.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/mob-tree.jpg

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: LuanKuci] #697678
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I tried to make a chart of the Racalmuto mafia in 1991 (Racalmuto is in the province of Agrigento):



However, I am not sure if it's 100% correct as I don't know if Diego Di Gati was the only capo in the family in 1991 when the war with the stidda started. However, it's possible he was the only one as the family was quite small and not very powerful, they even had to ask the help of Salvatore Fragapane from Santa Elisabetta.
Also, I am not sure who of the low-level members was actually made and who was just an associate. I read Nicolo' Cino and Diego Petruzzella were made, but I don't know for sure about the others. Maurizio Di Gati was made later, in 1991 he was just an associate.

Last edited by Dwalin2011; 02/19/13 09:11 AM.

Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: LuanKuci] #697796
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Originally Posted By: LuanKuci
Siderno Group chart I found on a weird Canadian football hooligans' site:


http://canadianfootball.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/mob-tree.jpg


Great chart! You know, that no image picture is actually a picture of Vito Rizzuto.


"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Sonny_Black] #698732
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Here I made a chart of the Castelvetrano family in the 90s. But there might be one HUGE mistake about the capos: I read a book published in 1993, before the trial and the convictions, so they changed many of the surnames. In the book they call the 2 capos "Saverio Riesi" and "Peppe Nicastro". Saverio Riesi must be Saverio Furnari, but I still don't understand who Giuseppe Nicastro might be. In the family, as I read, there were 2 high-placed members named Giuseppe: Marotta and Clemente, i think it's one of them, but who? Anyway, I put them both on the same level on the chart because another book states they later had more or less the same power.
Also, I found no mention of who the underboss of the family might have been. But I read that, when Francesco Messina Denaro went into hiding, the consigliere (Vaccarino) became acting boss.



P.S. I hope Matteo Messina Denaro won't find and kill me for the mistakes I may have made in this chart grin




And here is a chart of the Catania family in the 80s. I made it according to this document which contains the interrogation of Antonino Calderone, the former underboss of the family.

http://archiviopiolatorre.camera.it/img-repo/fondo_zupo/Sez._I_serie_0001_Vol_022.pdf

Strangely, it seems that according to him at the beginning of the 80s Santapaola only had 1 capo, while in the 70s they were at leat 2. Maybe the other one went with Alfio Ferlito and his group.



Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #701158
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What program do you guys use to make the charts?


Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #701569
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John Riggis out of the can. Hes oooooldddd bro! Doesnt even look like that pic.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: LittleNicky] #701658
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Originally Posted By: LittleNicky
What program do you guys use to make the charts?

I use Microsoft Publisher.


Willie Marfeo to Henry Tameleo:

1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #705378
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Is Tin ear sclafani out already? I just read the book about the jersey family "made men". From the looks of their chart, the Decalvecantes are decimated; mabye 30 guys on the street.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #705406
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I thought made men was a good book. That vinny ocean was a shady character


When Interpol?
Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #706069
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Hmm nice to read this and it is really beneficial to get information from this. Thank you for sharing this.

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