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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #627999
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hey I dont know if its a problem on my end but its saying invalid file name.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #628002
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the Cleveland chart is showing invalid file

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #628088
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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #628090
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Hey, Muk - what's the latest on The Chicago Outfit? Can you post that link, please?

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #628095
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Hi Mark, i have not made a chart on Chicago, i did not dare to make it because there allready is a fine chart. Althought its not up to date.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #628096
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You do a very good job, by the way. Do you know where I could get an Outfit chart - even if it's not up to date?

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #628099
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Heres the link, i just found it.
http://www.swfcabin.com/open/1324779271


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #628102
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That's the one I found as well. Thanks!

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mark] #629259
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What happened to the Buffalo CHART?

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: NJBoy55] #632580
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I have just spoken to Mukremin about the rest of the NY Family charts (1985). I´m sorry to say that he doesn´t have the time right now to finish the project.
But I will give it a try. So I plan to post the Bonannos, the Colombos and the Luccheses (year of 1985) here pretty soon.
Because of my limited knowledge in "computer science", I will only use text.
I don´t know how to create a PDF file with pictures, arrows and stuff so the charts will not be as good as Mukremin´s. I guess I could draw pictures of the dudes, but I´m sorry to say, I have no talent in drawing...either.
Hopefully, I will be able to finish what I and Mukremin started.
Of course all feedback is welcome!


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #632611
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^^good luck!


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Dapper_Don] #632661
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Colombo Crime Family 1985

x - Death was a homicide
p - Menbers of a ruling panel 1987-1988
¤ - Members who sided with Orena against Persico

Former bosses
Joseph Profaci (1898-1962)
Joseph "Joe Malyak" Maglocco (1898-1963)

Joseph Colombo Sr (1914-1978)
Vincent "Vinny" Aloi (¤) (1923- ) (Acting boss)
Joseph "Joe Yack" Iacovelli (1928-2006) (Acting boss)
Joseph Brancato (1917-1989) (Acting boss)
Thomas DiBella (1905-1988) (Acting boss)

Boss
Carmine "Junior; The Snake" Persico (1933- ) (Fugitive at the time), apprehended and indicted 1986, imprisoned 1987

Underboss
Gennaro "Jerry Lang" Langella (1939- ) (Under indictment at the time), imprisoned 1987, demoted

Consigliere
Alphonse "Allie Boy" Persico (1929-1989) (In prison at the time)

Captains
Andy "Mush" Russo (1934- ) (Acting underboss at the time), indicted and imprisoned 1986

Ralph Scopo Sr (1928-1993) (Acting consigliere at the time), indicted 1986, imprisoned 1987, demoted

Anthony "Tony Scappy" Scarpati (1928?-1992?) (acting boss at the time), indicted and imprisoned 1987

Frank R. "Dick" Fusco (1904-1992) Demoted in 1988

Salvatore "Jersey Sal" Profaci (¤) (1936- ) (In prison at the time)

Vincent Randazzo (1901-1987)

Benedetto "Benny" Aloi (p,¤) (1935-2011) Became acting underboss in 1988

Joseph "Joe T." Tomasello (p) (1935- )

Vincent "Jimmy" Angellino (p) (?-1988x) Became acting conigliere 1988

Alphonse "Little Allie Boy" Persico (1954- ) Indicted and imprisoned 1987

Michael Franzese (1951- ) Imprisoned 1986, retired

John "Jackie Zambooka" DeRoss (1937- ) Imprisoned 1986

Dominick "Danny Shacks" Montemarano (1938- ) Imprisoned 1986

Anthony Induisi (1949- )

Acting captains
Joseph "JoJo" Russo (1957-2009)

Anthony "Chuckie" Russo (1953- )

James "Jimmy Brown" Clemenza (¤) (1911-1993?)

Salvatore "Torty" Lombardino (¤) (1931- )

Notes
Former capo John "Sonny" Franzese (¤) (1919- ) had been demoted to soldier in 1984 in order to take pressure off of him and to decrease the chance that his parole would be violated again.
Former capo Charlie "Moose" Panarella (¤) (1922- ) had also been demoted but for other reasons. He had allegedly acted abusingly towards the members of his crew.
Victor "Vic" Orena Sr (1934- ) rose to the rank of acting boss in 1988 after briefly had served as acting capo for "Little Allie Boy" Persico.

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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #632664
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^ you misspelled Franzese

where did you see that was the reason he was demoted? (not saying your wrong, just curious)


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: HairyKnuckles] #632672
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Bonanno Crime Family 1985

x - Death was a homicide

Former bosses
Nicolo Schiro (1872-1957)
Salvatore Maranzano (1886-1931x)
Angelo Caruso (1895-1991) (Briefly served as acting boss during 1931)
Joseph "don Peppino" Bonanno (1905-2002)
Gasparino DiGregorio (1905-1970) (Appointed boss by the Commission in 1965)
Paul Sciacca (1909-1986) (Appointed boss by the Commission in 1966)
Natale "Joe" Evola (1907-1973)
Carmine "Lilo" Galante (1910-1979x) (Served as acting boss during the 1970s)

Boss
Philip "Rusty" Rastelli (1918-1991) (Under indictment at the time), imprisoned in 1986

Underboss
Salvatore "Toto" Catalano (1941- ) (Under indictment at the time), Imprisoned 1987, demoted

Consigliere
Anthony Spero (1929-2008) (Acting boss at the time)

Captains
Joseph "Big Joey" Massino (1943- ) (Acting underboss at the time), imprisoned 1986

Salvatore "Sally Fruit" Farrugia (1914-2007)

Frank Tartamella (1916-1996)

Anthony "TG" Graziano (1940- )

Gabriel Infanti (1935-1987x)

Vincent Asaro (1935- )

Joseph "Joe DeSi" DeSimone (1937- )

Russell Mauro (1938-1991x)

Nicholas "Nicky Mouth" Santora (1942- ) Imprisoned 1986

Armand Pollastrino (1915-1990)

Giuseppe "Joey" Buccellato (1919?-1992) (Acting consigliere at the time)

Frank "Curly" Lino (1937- )

Acting captains
Charles "Little Charlie" Musillo (1926-2009?)

Louie "HaHa" Attanazio (1944- )

Notes
A New Jersey based member, Anthony Riela (1897-1992) might have been a captain at this time, but I´m not sure.
When Massino was elected boss in 1991, he enlarged the number of captains to 15 or 16.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Dapper_Don] #632673
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don


where did you see that was the reason he was demoted? (not saying your wrong, just curious)


Page 244 in Michael Franzese´s book "Blood Covenant"


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: HairyKnuckles] #632677
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Lucchese Crime Family 1985

x - Death was a homicide

Former bosses
Gaetano "Tommy" Reina (1889-1930x)
Bonaventuro "Joe" Pinzolo (1887-1930x)
Tomasso "Tom" Gagliano (1884-1951)
Gaetano "Tommy Three Finger; Brown" Lucchese (1899-1967)
Carmine "Mr Gribbs" Tramunti (1910-1978) (Served as acting boss 1968-1972)

Boss
Anthony "Tony Ducks" Corallo (1913-2000) (Under indictment at the time), imprisoned 1987, retired

Underboss
Salvatore "Tom Mix" Santoro (1914-2000) (Under indictment at the time), imprisoned 1987, demoted

Consigliere
Christopher "Christy Ticks" Furnari (1924- ) (Under indictment at the time), imprisoned 1987, demoted

Captains
Anthony "Tony Buddy" Luongo (?-1986x) (Acting boss at the time)

Aniello "Neil" Migliore (1933- ) (Acting underboss at the time), indicted in 1987, imprisoned 1987

Ettore "Eddie" Coco (1908-1991) (Acting consigliere at the time), became acting underboss 1987, later demoted by Amuso

Mariano "Mac" Macaluso (1912-1992) Became acting consigliere 1987, later demoted by Amuso

Victor "Vic" Amuso (1934- ) Became boss 1987

Paul Vario Sr (1914-1988) (In prison at the time)

Joseph "Joe Narrow" Lorato (1916-1989)

Joseph "Joe Hooks" Capra (1916-1992)

Joseph Riducono (?-?)

Louis "Beans" Foceri (1922-1989)

Anthony "Tony Tumac" Accetturo (1938- ) (Under indictment at the time, freed.) Indicted again 1988, freed. Demoted by Amuso

Joseph "Joey" DiNapoli (1935- )

Dominick "Crazy Dom" Truscello (1934- )

Acting captains
Michael Salerno (?-1990x)

Salvatore Avellino (1936- )

Frankie "the Wop" Manzo (1925- )

Jimmy "East" Oriente (?-?)

Notes
Michael "Mad Dog" Tacetta (1947- ) might have been an acting capo already at this time, but I´m not sure.
He definitely succeeded Accetturo as capo in 1988.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #634407
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I am from Chicago. My Uncle is a made man in the Outfit and has been for years. The Chicago Outfit is structured much differently than the 5 Families in New York. In Chicago, for example, there were 6 street crews that constituted the Outfit. For example, from about 1970 to 1986, the Street Crews were as follows. Cicero, Elmwood Park, Rush St., Grand Ave., 26thSt.,& Chicago Heights. The Top Boss of the Outfit was also the Boss of the Cicero Crew (Joey Auippa ), the Boss of the Elmwood Park Crew was the Underboss of the entire Outfit (Jack Cerone). The other 4 Crew Bosses were partners with the two Top Bosses. There were also some made men who were union or political specialists that reported direct to the Top Two Bosses. The Soldiers in the 6 Crews were NOT made men. They worked for the made men with specific jobs. The membership of the Outfit might have been about 240 men but the number of made men might have been about 60. In Chicago it was much more selective and much more difficult to be made, unlike New York where they make everybody. In Chicago, the Bosses of each Crew were equal to a Boss in New York. The made men in Chicago were equal to the Captains in New York. Chicago had their own Commission and had the final say in the midwest out to the West Coast. Chicago also controlled much of Las Vegas and had tremendous political power in their city of Chicago and all Cook County. The 5 New York Families combined were possibly more powerful than the Outfit, but the Outfit was more powerful than any of the New York Families individually. The Outfit also had more political and union power than any of the New York Families. Man per man, the Outfit was the strongest Mafia group in the United States according to F.B.I. reports and the White House reports. I would whole heartedly agree with them.The Oufit was also structured much better than the New York Groups who were always fighting or competing with each other. No Boss in the Chicago outfit ever was killed. The Only exception was Sam Giancana when he tried to make a comeback in 1974 after having been gone for 8 years. Each Boss, including the Top two bosses, have strong power bases and all work together in a structured partnership.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: TheChicagoDon] #634410
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Posting such a statement is equivalent to a so-called "pissing-contest" or everyone measuring there penis!

Originally Posted By: TheChicagoDon
I am from Chicago. My Uncle is a made man in the Outfit and has been for years. The Chicago Outfit is structured much differently than the 5 Families in New York. In Chicago, for example, there were 6 street crews that constituted the Outfit. For example, from about 1970 to 1986, the Street Crews were as follows. Cicero, Elmwood Park, Rush St., Grand Ave., 26thSt.,& Chicago Heights. The Top Boss of the Outfit was also the Boss of the Cicero Crew (Joey Auippa ), the Boss of the Elmwood Park Crew was the Underboss of the entire Outfit (Jack Cerone). The other 4 Crew Bosses were partners with the two Top Bosses. There were also some made men who were union or political specialists that reported direct to the Top Two Bosses. The Soldiers in the 6 Crews were NOT made men. They worked for the made men with specific jobs. The membership of the Outfit might have been about 240 men but the number of made men might have been about 60. In Chicago it was much more selective and much more difficult to be made, unlike New York where they make everybody. In Chicago, the Bosses of each Crew were equal to a Boss in New York. The made men in Chicago were equal to the Captains in New York. Chicago had their own Commission and had the final say in the midwest out to the West Coast. Chicago also controlled much of Las Vegas and had tremendous political power in their city of Chicago and all Cook County. The 5 New York Families combined were possibly more powerful than the Outfit, but the Outfit was more powerful than any of the New York Families individually. The Outfit also had more political and union power than any of the New York Families. Man per man, the Outfit was the strongest Mafia group in the United States according to F.B.I. reports and the White House reports. I would whole heartedly agree with them.The Oufit was also structured much better than the New York Groups who were always fighting or competing with each other. No Boss in the Chicago outfit ever was killed. The Only exception was Sam Giancana when he tried to make a comeback in 1974 after having been gone for 8 years. Each Boss, including the Top two bosses, have strong power bases and all work together in a structured partnership.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #634413
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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Posting such a statement is equivalent to a so-called "pissing-contest" or everyone measuring there penis!


My uncle is bigger than his uncle.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: SC] #634414
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I don't follow the Outfit is any of that factual stuff or bs? For the time being I'm going to sit on my hands till they go numb and watch Whitney tributes on tv. She is one fine looking African-American Women.
Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
Posting such a statement is equivalent to a so-called "pissing-contest" or everyone measuring there penis!


My uncle is bigger than his uncle.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #634415
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It's not my problem if the F.B.I. and the C.I.A. thought the penis of the Chicago Outfit was better organized and more powerful than any of the New York Families. If you have a problem with it, call the F.B.I. or the C.I.A. and argue with them whose penis was bigger.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: TheChicagoDon] #634416
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Hey I was curious admiral ballsack..So what your telling me is that our federal government "thought the penis of the outfit" was more organized and powerful then NYC Familes. The Penis of the outfit I'm assuming is the boss?

Originally Posted By: TheChicagoDon
It's not my problem if the F.B.I. and the C.I.A. thought the penis of the Chicago Outfit was better organized and more powerful than any of the New York Families. If you have a problem with it, call the F.B.I. or the C.I.A. and argue with them whose penis was bigger.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: TheChicagoDon] #634419
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Originally Posted By: TheChicagoDon
I am from Chicago. My Uncle is a made man in the Outfit and has been for years. The Chicago Outfit is structured much differently than the 5 Families in New York. In Chicago, for example, there were 6 street crews that constituted the Outfit. For example, from about 1970 to 1986, the Street Crews were as follows. Cicero, Elmwood Park, Rush St., Grand Ave., 26thSt.,& Chicago Heights. The Top Boss of the Outfit was also the Boss of the Cicero Crew (Joey Auippa ), the Boss of the Elmwood Park Crew was the Underboss of the entire Outfit (Jack Cerone). The other 4 Crew Bosses were partners with the two Top Bosses. There were also some made men who were union or political specialists that reported direct to the Top Two Bosses. The Soldiers in the 6 Crews were NOT made men. They worked for the made men with specific jobs. The membership of the Outfit might have been about 240 men but the number of made men might have been about 60. In Chicago it was much more selective and much more difficult to be made, unlike New York where they make everybody. In Chicago, the Bosses of each Crew were equal to a Boss in New York. The made men in Chicago were equal to the Captains in New York. Chicago had their own Commission and had the final say in the midwest out to the West Coast. Chicago also controlled much of Las Vegas and had tremendous political power in their city of Chicago and all Cook County. The 5 New York Families combined were possibly more powerful than the Outfit, but the Outfit was more powerful than any of the New York Families individually. The Outfit also had more political and union power than any of the New York Families. Man per man, the Outfit was the strongest Mafia group in the United States according to F.B.I. reports and the White House reports. I would whole heartedly agree with them.The Oufit was also structured much better than the New York Groups who were always fighting or competing with each other. No Boss in the Chicago outfit ever was killed. The Only exception was Sam Giancana when he tried to make a comeback in 1974 after having been gone for 8 years. Each Boss, including the Top two bosses, have strong power bases and all work together in a structured partnership.


I am no expert on the Chicago outfit, but your statement that the Outfit alone is stronger than 1 individual New York family, that is total crap. With the Colombos going downwards, we could say yes, the Outfit may be stronger. But there is no way you can compare the Genoveses with the Outfit.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #634420
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Well, since you want to start with name calling, Yes Admiral New York Dick Nose, What I'm saying is that the Government has always considered the Chicago Outfit ( not just the Top Boss) but the entire Chicago Outfit as a more powerful better organized Mafia Group over any of the New York Families. The Chicago Outfit basically elected John Kennedy in 1964. The C.I.A.partnered with Chicago to kill Castro etc., etc. New York makes everybody and their brother. In Chicago, you have to belong to a street crew for years before you would even be considered to be made. In Chicago, when a guy gets made it's a big fucking deal, unlike New York. Made guys are very powerful in Chicago and run their own franchises with soldiers working under them to help them do business with all the street associates.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #634422
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From the 1930's forward, the Outfit has always been the strongest, best organized, most politically & union strong Mafia group in the country. Chicago basically told New York to get the fuck out of Las Vegas back in the late 1950's. New York has always been strong but is not cohesive like Chicago and makes too many soldiers who basically go out and do whatever they want to do as long as they pay some kind of tribute to their captain. in Chicago, the soldiers are not made guys but instead, they WORK for the made guys doing specific jobs. Much better organized than New York. There is a long, long list of rats in New York. In Chicago, there has only been ONE rat among the highly elite smaller core of made guys in 80 years. The Federal government has publicly stated in numerous reports, that the Chicago Outfit is the Strongest mafia group in the Country. Always has been. Not the Genovese's. If you don't like hearing it, go argue with the Feds about it.

Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Mukremin] #634423
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This is again some kind of inside information from outfit ?


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: TheChicagoDon] #634424
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Alright Don Penis,

Should I kiss your pinky ring?

There are some knowledgeable people on this board that jerk off to these guys everyday they know everything when it comes to discussing old hairy Italian gangsters. Furthermore stop saying "Go ask the Feds," that's retarded.

Originally Posted By: TheChicagoDon
From the 1930's forward, the Outfit has always been the strongest, best organized, most politically & union strong Mafia group in the country. Chicago basically told New York to get the fuck out of Las Vegas back in the late 1950's. New York has always been strong but is not cohesive like Chicago and makes too many soldiers who basically go out and do whatever they want to do as long as they pay some kind of tribute to their captain. in Chicago, the soldiers are not made guys but instead, they WORK for the made guys doing specific jobs. Much better organized than New York. There is a long, long list of rats in New York. In Chicago, there has only been ONE rat among the highly elite smaller core of made guys in 80 years. The Federal government has publicly stated in numerous reports, that the Chicago Outfit is the Strongest mafia group in the Country. Always has been. Not the Genovese's. If you don't like hearing it, go argue with the Feds about it.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: Dapper_Don] #634425
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You mispelled Franzese..OMG BLOG BLOG BLOG MOBWIVES ON DVR CHECK!

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^ you misspelled Franzese

where did you see that was the reason he was demoted? (not saying your wrong, just curious)


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: SC] #634426
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In Girth? LMAO

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Posting such a statement is equivalent to a so-called "pissing-contest" or everyone measuring there penis!


My uncle is bigger than his uncle.


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Re: New York and other mafia family charts (UPDATED) [Re: DickNose_Moltasanti] #634427
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I didn't say go ask the Feds. I'm simply stating what the reports have been from the F.B.I. & The C.I.A. There's no point arguing with me about it. Don't blame the messenger for the message, New York Dick Nose.

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