It seems every board I go or comment section of a website related to organized crime both Italians and Albanians seem to have a beef with each other, why is that?

Also why do Italians hate gypsies so much, what do they do?

Gypsies are human garbage and should've been wiped out long ago. Professional con artists and thieves. Their children are taught how to beg for money at an early age, all to build big mansions in Romania that they never live in, just to show off their wealth. Most of the street mechanics are gypsies and I've been approached by almost a dozen, all Romanian, offering to fix my car on the street. Google them and look up their wikipedia entry. They are taught not to go to school, not to work, and other strange practices. Use a gypsy for target practice, good riddance.

I noticed when I watched the amanda knox trial and some pictures in prison, of her dancing, that she was the only white person in there. Are most people in Italian prisons, africant immigrants?

Most of europe hates Gypsies and they definitely hate all the africans who come into their countries with no money, education, values, and who can blame them. These people are ugly, stupid and criminally oriented and reproduce like cockroaches.

I can't say much on the gypsy thing.

But the Italian/Albanian thing here on the forums goes back at least a few years. There used to be a few Albanian posters who would go from board to board and their agenda was to convince anyone and everyone that Albanian organized crime was taking over the world. They would start thread after thread about this theory or try to steer other threads onto that topic. It sort of being an ethnic pride thing for them, they were relentless and caused a lot of problems. It's died down since then but, every time some newbie brings up the whole Rudaj thing, it can sort of flare back up.

How can a person be so hostile and racist? We all should know better since we share many things on these forums and we have different nationalities.

It seems every board I go or comment section of a website related to organized crime both Italians and Albanians seem to have a beef with each other, why is that?

Also why do Italians hate gypsies so much, what do they do?

I don't agree with the racist post about Africans and I don't condone violence against one even gypsies but we should be able to call a spade a spade and we shouldn't be afraid to speak out against a particular demographic and their crimes and behavior for fear of being branded a "racist".

Keep your vile, racist crap off these boards. You won't be told again!

@ SC ..I know this Off Topic but whose the picture of the guy in your avatar?

damn you guys are racist. if you look up gypsie history you can see that some european countries brought them to this state. they where a little bit like the jews back then.
where i come from we got a lot of gypsie's but there arent any troublemakers they just play music to earn money.

we also have a gypsie problem here(netherlands) but seriously nobody really cares except for a few people who live in the same neighborhoods as them.

and wasnt there a time that italians and other immigrants where hated ?

we also have a gypsie problem here(netherlands) but seriously nobody really cares except for a few people who live in the same neighborhoods as them.

and wasnt there a time that italians and other immigrants where hated?

look what im saying is you guys are calling a whole race a bunch of criminals. thats just wrong and no that isnt even a fact.

look what im saying is you guys are calling a whole race a bunch of criminals. thats just wrong and no that isnt even a fact.

and here in holland they are criminals some schools dont even accept gypsie's anymore. they dont work or go to school but that isnt a reason to hate all of them and i aint afraid of them either.

what i dont understand either is how did the gypsies form gangs and get involved in crime in europe. while in the east their heaviest crime might be pickpocketing someone.

but seriously i read somewhere that those people where actually rich until the german states started slaughtering gypsie's.

@mussolini14: i am no uneducated liberal and dont call people uneducated because they have different opinions than you do. and i am no educated liberal either.

wikipedia: When the Romani people arrived in Europe, the initial curiosity of its residents soon changed to hostility against the newcomers. The Romani were enslaved for five centuries in Wallachia and Moldavia, until abolition in 1856.[57]

Elsewhere in Europe, they were subject to ethnic cleansing, abduction of their children, and forced labor. In England, Romani were sometimes hanged or expelled from small communities; in France, they were branded and their heads were shaved; in Moravia and Bohemia, the women were marked by their ears being severed. As a result, large groups of the Romani moved to the East, toward Poland, which was more tolerant, and Russia, where the Romani were treated more fairly as long as they paid the annual taxes.[58]

The arrival of some branches of the Romani people in Western Europe in the 15th century was precipitated by the Ottoman conquest of the Balkans. Although the Romanies themselves were refugees from the conflicts in southeastern Europe, they were mistaken by the local population in the West, because of their foreign appearance, as part of the Ottoman invasion (the German Reichstags at Landau and Freiburg in 1496-1498 declared the Romanies as spies of the Turks). In Western Europe, this resulted in a violent history of persecution and attempts of ethnic cleansing until the modern era. As time passed, other accusations were added against local Romanies (accusations specific to this area, against non-assimilated minorities), like that of bringing the plague, usually sharing their burden together with the local Jews.[75]

In the Habsburg Monarchy under Maria Theresia (1740–1780), a series of decrees tried to force the Romanies to sedentarize, removed rights to horse and wagon ownership (1754), renamed them as "New Citizens" and forced Romani boys into military service if they had no trade (1761), forced them to register with the local authorities (1767), and prohibited marriage between Romanies (1773). Her successor Josef II prohibited the wearing of traditional Romani clothing and the use of the Romani language, punishable by flogging.[77]

In Spain, attempts to assimilate the Gitanos were under way as early as 1619, when Gitanos were forcibly sedentarized, the use of the Romani language was prohibited, Gitano men and women were sent to separate workhouses and their children sent to orphanages. Similar prohibitions took place in 1783 under King Charles III, who prohibited the nomadic lifestyle, the use of the Calo language, Romani clothing, their trade in horses and other itinerant trades. The use of the word gitano was also forbidden to further assimilation. Ultimately these measures failed, as the rest of the population rejected the integration of the Gitanos.[77][78]

Other examples of forced assimilation include Norway, where a law was passed in 1896 permitting the state to remove children from their parents and place them in state institutions.[79] This resulted in some 1,500 Romani children being taken from their parents in the 20th century.[80]

And I agree 100%. That is the position of these boards, so don't argue whether or not it's right for here.

Nobody is saying you cannot discuss racism here. Some of the comments posted above are indeed thought-provoking BUT some are also out and out racism at its worst. My warning was to Palomita20 and to his/her disgusting racist comments. The first sentence in that message set the tone of the post and it went downhill from there. Vile prejudice like that will not be tolerated here.

I didn't mean you had no formal education but rather you lack info on the Italian gypsie problem because the only knowledge you have comes from your experience with gypsies in Holland. Then the first thing you say is "you guys are racist" when there was only 1 posts that was and you had you used the plural form of guyS which implies more than one of us was racist. IMO before you use that term you better have some good info and not just be basing it on your experience in a different country.



Wiki is often inaccurate, you know this. Anyone can post anything they want on there. Type in "Italian Gyspie" problem and check out the stats of the Italian Government has on Gyspies and crime. We are not talking about Romanian immigrants we are talking about Romanian Gypsies. There is a big difference.

You don't know how they formed criminal gangs? How about they raise their children to be professional criminals and encourage them not to work or go to school. Joining a gang would come naturally to someone with that type of upbringing.