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Re: The Families outside NY [Re: moolou] #612726
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Originally Posted By: moolou
Hey Ivy, do you have any ideas on what happened to the Buffalo mob? Aside from getting kicked out of that union in the late 90s, they seem to have just faded away. I've never heard of them being hit by too many investigations. I'm not saying they're some sort of super secret family that has an iron grip on Buffalo or anything. They seem to have gone out with a whimper as compared to, say, the Cleveland crime family.


Laborers Local 210 seemed to be the family's main source of power. Sort of like Local 394 for the DeCavalcantes. Once Local 210 was taken over in the mid-1990's, things seemed to have dried up to a large degree. Over the past decade there have been individual members of the family involved in some cases, like Thomas Marotta, Frank "Butchie BiFocals" BiFulco, Sonny Nicoletti Jr, Dominic "Sonny" Celestino, and Frank Frassetto. But really nothing showing a cohesive, formally structured organization. The Todaros are probably all but retired now and have plenty of money from their La Nova restaurant chain. That there are still even a couple dozen members left is probably due to the fact it's in the northeast as much as anything else.


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IVY, luzerne county in PA, with all the corruption you ever look into that..its boarders NY ..Big Billy Elia was the last one in the scranton/wilkes barres mob whatever that was called bufalino? I dunno

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Hey Ivy, do you have any ideas on what happened to the Buffalo mob? Aside from getting kicked out of that union in the late 90s, they seem to have just faded away. I've never heard of them being hit by too many investigations. I'm not saying they're some sort of super secret family that has an iron grip on Buffalo or anything. They seem to have gone out with a whimper as compared to, say, the Cleveland crime family.


Laborers Local 210 seemed to be the family's main source of power. Sort of like Local 394 for the DeCavalcantes. Once Local 210 was taken over in the mid-1990's, things seemed to have dried up to a large degree. Over the past decade there have been individual members of the family involved in some cases, like Thomas Marotta, Frank "Butchie BiFocals" BiFulco, Sonny Nicoletti Jr, Dominic "Sonny" Celestino, and Frank Frassetto. But really nothing showing a cohesive, formally structured organization. The Todaros are probably all but retired now and have plenty of money from their La Nova restaurant chain. That there are still even a couple dozen members left is probably due to the fact it's in the northeast as much as anything else.


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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti

IVY, luzerne county in PA, with all the corruption you ever look into that..its boarders NY ..Big Billy Elia was the last one in the scranton/wilkes barres mob whatever that was called bufalino? I dunno


Yeah, Ralph Natale was overheard on a bug talking about how D'Elia was the last member of the Bufalino family. Though there may be 1 or 2 other guys still alive. But the family is certainly gone. Even though it was always a small family, back in it's heyday the family was pretty strong in the labor rackets. And D'Elia was active up until recent years. He had a lot of contact with guys in New York, New Jersey, and Philly.


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New england has approx 6-8 crews

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New england has approx 6-8 crews


If that's the case, I imagine each crew only has a handful of made guys. Which wouldn't necessarily surprise me at this point since several recent busts have included a couple made members and a bunch of associates. The thing is, on different charts we have the names of guys who have been captains. And some of them may still be. But the exact hierarchical structure is becoming harder to pin down in the smaller families that remain outside NY, including the Patriarcas.


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Well the current hierachy of The Patriarca Family according to the FBI and Massachusetts State Police is listed like this.

OFFICIAL BOSS: Peter Limone ( 5 years probation)BOS
ACTING BOSS: Anthony "Tony" Dinunzio BOS
OFFICIAL UNDERBOSS: Carmen "The Cheesman" Dinunzio IP 6Y BOS
ACTING UNDERBOSS: Robert "Bobby" Deluca RI
CONSIGLIERE: unknown, not believed to have one since 90's.

CAPO Revere, Ma Faction: Antonio "Spucky" Spagnolo
CAPO East Boston, Ma Faction: Mark Rossetti(flipped in FBI custody) ACTING CAPO: Robert "Bobby Russo" Corozza
CAPO North End, Ma and Medford, Ma Faction, Vincent "The Animal" Ferrara with Anthony Dinunzio.
CAPO Connecticut Faction: Anthony "Tony the Beaver" Ascenzia Jr.
CAPO Rhode Island Faction: Joseph Achille
CAPO Rhode Island Faction: Anthony Parillo
CAPO Rhode Island Faction: Edward "Eddy" Lato UI

Re: The Families outside NY [Re: furio_from_naples] #613008
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if the outfits is as secret as u say ... how n why do u seem to have the information on them ? r u a groupie with some of them?


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ivyleague i dont believe in your posts , i think some of them r names u have long thought of in your head n put them on this forum disgracing it


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Originally Posted By: rossato
ivyleague i dont believe in your posts , i think some of them r names u have long thought of in your head n put them on this forum disgracing it



Would you shut up? Not once on this forum have I ever lost my temper, but you really make me want to do so. In a few days, you've caused more mayhem, terrorized more people than VinnyGorgeous (former user) managed to in a lifetime. I try to treat this like a serious forum. A learning center, if you will. And it's very distracting when some people think this is Comedy Central with chat-speak. Clean up your act or get out.

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Accidental re-post. Might as well add something.

Ivy, I don't exactly understand what happened with D'elia. He became a snitch, but on a very specific operation. Therefore he wasn't exactly ratted out all his fellow made men, right? Did the family just lose hope after that? I've always thought the Bufalino Family was a decidedly small family. Russell kept 40-ish made guys around, and I always think there has to be a reason. Maybe to keep a low profile? In any case, it hasn't helped the family survive. But they had a great run.

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Originally Posted By: BarrettM
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ivyleague i dont believe in your posts , i think some of them r names u have long thought of in your head n put them on this forum disgracing it



Would you shut up? Not once on this forum have I ever lost my temper, but you really make me want to do so. In a few days, you've caused more mayhem, terrorized more people than VinnyGorgeous (former user) managed to in a lifetime. I try to treat this like a serious forum. A learning center, if you will. And it's very distracting when some people think this is Comedy Central with chat-speak. Clean up your act or get out.


kudos to you bro, im saying the same thing about this freaking guy!


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uv lost you temper? why dude? i hope u find it , remember n use your magnafying glasses u small minded man wheres ur fun n banter? chill out n dont b so serious , lifts some weights screw your girlfriend more smoke a joint if it helps lighten u up smile


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Originally Posted By: BarrettM
Accidental re-post. Might as well add something.

Ivy, I don't exactly understand what happened with D'elia. He became a snitch, but on a very specific operation. Therefore he wasn't exactly ratted out all his fellow made men, right? Did the family just lose hope after that? I've always thought the Bufalino Family was a decidedly small family. Russell kept 40-ish made guys around, and I always think there has to be a reason. Maybe to keep a low profile? In any case, it hasn't helped the family survive. But they had a great run.


good point its kind of like the mikey franzese who didnt rat out his fellow made guys...


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dapper don do u have beef? u know il whipe the floor with u n then powerwash ur sad act face


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Originally Posted By: rossato
dapper don do u have beef? u know il whipe the floor with u n then powerwash ur sad act face


im not even going to waste my time with you and respond formally too childish


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yeah go waste ur time sitting on ur ass eating pizza thats all your good for , try putting on more interesting posts instead of the basic stuff u put on now


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Re: The Families outside NY [Re: Dapper_Don] #613024
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
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Accidental re-post. Might as well add something.

Ivy, I don't exactly understand what happened with D'elia. He became a snitch, but on a very specific operation. Therefore he wasn't exactly ratted out all his fellow made men, right? Did the family just lose hope after that? I've always thought the Bufalino Family was a decidedly small family. Russell kept 40-ish made guys around, and I always think there has to be a reason. Maybe to keep a low profile? In any case, it hasn't helped the family survive. But they had a great run.


good point its kind of like the mikey franzese who didnt rat out his fellow made guys...


Haha.

Yeah, sort of like Franzese. It looks like he just testified against a casino owners to close some cases. Maybe there weren't any made guys left? Who knows? Of all the families in LCN, the Bufalinos are exceptional for their under the radar behavior. That's excluding some stuff D'elia did, but overall. This is the family that was secretly leading half of the Buffalo Family a little before Stefano Magaddino's death - whilst Magaddino was representing them on The Commission. I haven't read the Frank Sheeran book but I hope there's more out there.

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These guys are a bunch of humps...they ruined the mafia


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Hey Hey Hey

I think every1 is entitled to their on opinion, and some people watch something on the biography channel and all of sudden there an expert.

Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Originally Posted By: BarrettM
Originally Posted By: rossato
ivyleague i dont believe in your posts , i think some of them r names u have long thought of in your head n put them on this forum disgracing it



Would you shut up? Not once on this forum have I ever lost my temper, but you really make me want to do so. In a few days, you've caused more mayhem, terrorized more people than VinnyGorgeous (former user) managed to in a lifetime. I try to treat this like a serious forum. A learning center, if you will. And it's very distracting when some people think this is Comedy Central with chat-speak. Clean up your act or get out.


kudos to you bro, im saying the same thing about this freaking guy!


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Vinnygorgeous was funny,I didn't like his stupid ralph cipparotto picture thought it was kinda fruity, but yea he was funnny and knew some stuff..Rosatto isn't from the states he might see things a different way he knows some stuff gotta give him that


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Originally Posted By: rossato
yeah go waste ur time sitting on ur ass eating pizza thats all your good for , try putting on more interesting posts instead of the basic stuff u put on now


I don't think you understand that nobody here takes anything you say seriously.

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Originally Posted By: rossato
yeah go waste ur time sitting on ur ass eating pizza thats all your good for , try putting on more interesting posts instead of the basic stuff u put on now


and what have you done?

i dont have much time to contribute to the forum because unlike you i actually do something with myself and am in graduate school which just started classes back up last week

little guys like you make me want to keep checking the forum less and less often


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yeah with no proof no1 beleives u , mommy n daddy pay to have u go to graduate how sweet , a real man earns money everyday , not by going to graduate on momy n daddys money , yeh dicknose is right i do see things from outside the us , n i think there vaild points to be made, again... if u people cant take crisism what r u going to do everytime some1 cristises u ? ban them? call the cops? thats soft


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Originally Posted By: rossato
yeah with no proof no1 beleives u , mommy n daddy pay to have u go to graduate how sweet , a real man earns money everyday , not by going to graduate on momy n daddys money , yeh dicknose is right i do see things from outside the us , n i think there vaild points to be made, again... if u people cant take crisism what r u going to do everytime some1 cristises u ? ban them? call the cops? thats soft


once again your wrong, mommy and daddy dont pay a dime for me actually i go to a top ivy league school on a scholarship because unlike you i work hard and have a bright future


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Magadino was a snake, he didn't like joe bananas for a million reasons


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yeah well in my eyes ur a spoiled little brat who looks down on the working class man. i left school when i was 16 n went straight into a electricians aprrentiship , low n behold now im 22 fully qualified have been for 2years now n the moneys raking in smile how much money has it cost your mommy n daddy to send you to graduate?


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Dapper I got my B.A. from Temple, I was gonna go to Pace up in West Chester I couldnt afford it, what school u go to up there


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yeah with no proof no1 beleives u , mommy n daddy pay to have u go to graduate how sweet , a real man earns money everyday , not by going to graduate on momy n daddys money , yeh dicknose is right i do see things from outside the us , n i think there vaild points to be made, again... if u people cant take crisism what r u going to do everytime some1 cristises u ? ban them? call the cops? thats soft


once again your wrong, mommy and daddy dont pay a dime for me actually i go to a top ivy league school on a scholarship because unlike you i work hard and have a bright future


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magagino was bonnanos cousin , so ii dont believe that he didnt like him, they were family


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IVY, luzerne county in PA, with all the corruption you ever look into that..its boarders NY ..Big Billy Elia was the last one in the scranton/wilkes barres mob whatever that was called bufalino? I dunno


Yeah, Ralph Natale was overheard on a bug talking about how D'Elia was the last member of the Bufalino family. Though there may be 1 or 2 other guys still alive. But the family is certainly gone. Even though it was always a small family, back in it's heyday the family was pretty strong in the labor rackets. And D'Elia was active up until recent years. He had a lot of contact with guys in New York, New Jersey, and Philly.


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Originally Posted By: rossato
yeah well in my eyes ur a spoiled little brat who looks down on the working class man. i left school when i was 16 n went straight into a electricians aprrentiship , low n behold now im 22 fully qualified have been for 2years now n the moneys raking in smile how much money has it cost your mommy n daddy to send you to graduate?


i told you nothing im on a scholarship, my parents are immigrants from the DR who came here in the 80s,I am a self made man worked hard all my life


Tommy Shots: They want me running the family, don't they know I have a young wife?
Sal Vitale: (laughs) Tommy, jump in, the water's fine.


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