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cosa nostra street gang alliances #611925
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does the cosa nostra have alliances with street gangs such as the Latin Kings, Ms-13 or so.

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This is the only instance I've known of; some of the younger Perna's of the NJ Lucchese formed a business alliance with some members of the Bloods

http://www.nj.gov/oag/newsreleases07/pr20071218c.html

I dont think MS 13 is as big in NY as it is in other areas (although I did see a guy on the train w ms13 tattoos a few years ago). The big NY street gangs are dominican - the Trinitarios and the DDP. Haven't heard of any of LCN working with them but as with everything else we won't know until someone gets busted.

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Unless we're talking about certain Italian street gangs, like the Tanglewood Boys, etc., there aren't any "official" alliances between mob families and street gangs. However, there have been instances where they've worked together. As tt120 mentioned, the Lucchese New Jersey crew were smuggling heroin and cell phones into jail with the Bloods. A few years before that, the Luccheses and Bonannos were involved with the Bloods in an oxycontin ring that operated in New Jersey and supplied dealers in Connecticut and Massachusetts. In 2001, part of the charges in a Genovese family indictment included selling $40,000 worth of counterfeit $20 bills with the Latin Kings. And there have been gambling cases in Brooklyn involving the Gambinos and Chinese (Fukienese) gang members.


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Originally Posted By: tt120
This is the only instance I've known of; some of the younger Perna's of the NJ Lucchese formed a business alliance with some members of the Bloods

http://www.nj.gov/oag/newsreleases07/pr20071218c.html

I dont think MS 13 is as big in NY as it is in other areas (although I did see a guy on the train w ms13 tattoos a few years ago). The big NY street gangs are dominican - the Trinitarios and the DDP. Haven't heard of any of LCN working with them but as with everything else we won't know until someone gets busted.


ms 13 is all over queens and the dominican gangs are big in the bronx and manhattan (mostly upper) as well some areas in BK


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Haven't the FBI recently listed MS-13 as the most dangerous street gang in the country?

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The Feds started the task-force that works with South American countries in targeting MS-13 in '04. It was about that time when they seemed to be in the news like crazy.

I think the noteriety MS-13 garnered in the last decade or so worked very much against them, and directly led to the massive operations like the one in late 08 that saw some 650 suspects arrested across five or so countries.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/crime/2011/08/violent-ms-13-gang-fading-bay-area

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You would dealing with common street gangs would be beneath the so-called upper echelon organized crime groups such as La Cosa Nostra. Or has LCN become so weakened that they are forced to deal with groups they never would have in the past?

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Originally Posted By: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica
The Feds started the task-force that works with South American countries in targeting MS-13 in '04. It was about that time when they seemed to be in the news like crazy.

I think the noteriety MS-13 garnered in the last decade or so worked very much against them, and directly led to the massive operations like the one in late 08 that saw some 650 suspects arrested across five or so countries.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/crime/2011/08/violent-ms-13-gang-fading-bay-area


MS-13 is nothing but low-iq and stupid indians. Violent, yes. Organized, structured, deliberate, cohesive, no. The idiots kill each other, wind up being incarcerated and make NO money in the process. Colombians defintely don't work with them(directly at least), mexicans probably do, they are indians as well.

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@ Palomita

Yes and I believe in Mexico and other parts of central america the majority is mestizo not very many white.

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Originally Posted By: Palomita20
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The Feds started the task-force that works with South American countries in targeting MS-13 in '04. It was about that time when they seemed to be in the news like crazy.

I think the noteriety MS-13 garnered in the last decade or so worked very much against them, and directly led to the massive operations like the one in late 08 that saw some 650 suspects arrested across five or so countries.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/crime/2011/08/violent-ms-13-gang-fading-bay-area


MS-13 is nothing but low-iq and stupid indians. Violent, yes. Organized, structured, deliberate, cohesive, no. The idiots kill each other, wind up being incarcerated and make NO money in the process. Colombians defintely don't work with them(directly at least), mexicans probably do, they are indians as well.


Yeah, but in reality, they are probably more powerful and dangerous than LCN. MS-13 is more of a threat to the average citizen than any LCN family.

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Originally Posted By: botz
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Yes and I believe in Mexico and other parts of central america the majority is mestizo not very many white.


And in Europe, the majority of people are of Caucasian descent!

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Originally Posted By: JasonAnthony74
You would dealing with common street gangs would be beneath the so-called upper echelon organized crime groups such as La Cosa Nostra. Or has LCN become so weakened that they are forced to deal with groups they never would have in the past?


The mob has always worked with other groups if it's profitable, including street gangs. The top mob guys don't but, on occasion, soldiers and associates do. For example, with the Luccheses and the Bloods, acting bosses like Joseph DiNapoli and Matthew Madonna, as well as captain Ralph Perna, weren't dealing with the Bloods. But soldier Joe Perna was.


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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
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You would dealing with common street gangs would be beneath the so-called upper echelon organized crime groups such as La Cosa Nostra. Or has LCN become so weakened that they are forced to deal with groups they never would have in the past?


The mob has always worked with other groups if it's profitable, including street gangs. The top mob guys don't but, on occasion, soldiers and associates do. For example, with the Luccheses and the Bloods, acting bosses like Joseph DiNapoli and Matthew Madonna, as well as captain Ralph Perna, weren't dealing with the Bloods. But soldier Joe Perna was.


Even the Genovese used a Cuban street gang to enforce their control of the Harlem numbers racket.

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Yes and I believe in Mexico and other parts of central america the majority is mestizo not very many white.


Yeah, CEntral America is like east la, except they only speak spanish.

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You would dealing with common street gangs would be beneath the so-called upper echelon organized crime groups such as La Cosa Nostra. Or has LCN become so weakened that they are forced to deal with groups they never would have in the past?


The mob has always worked with other groups if it's profitable, including street gangs. The top mob guys don't but, on occasion, soldiers and associates do. For example, with the Luccheses and the Bloods, acting bosses like Joseph DiNapoli and Matthew Madonna, as well as captain Ralph Perna, weren't dealing with the Bloods. But soldier Joe Perna was.


Even the Genovese used a Cuban street gang to enforce their control of the Harlem numbers racket.


What if the Cuban street gang decided to take over the Harlem numbers racket from the Genovese?

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Or, what if portions of the MS-13 started moving into and taking over certain LCN strongholds? Does LCN have the manpower to combat a street gang with literally thousands of members?

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i dont' think in the ast coast ms-13 is strong, maybe it has some crews but not so many members and they can't start war to the mafia there how could? they coulnd't know even where to start

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There is NO WAY LCN can compete in terms of manpower with MS-13.


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You gotta use a guy like Christopher Moltasanti to deal with dat street shit. It's funny he's a corrupt cop in that movie "Clockers"


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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
You gotta use a guy like Christopher Moltasanti to deal with dat street shit. It's funny he's a corrupt cop in that movie "Clockers"


Like when he comes back from rehab and Petey and Benny Fazio kill those two black would be hitmen.


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^^ What episode is that?


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Originally Posted By: DickNose_Moltasanti
^^ What episode is that?

Whitecaps, last episode of season 4


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Originally Posted By: Palomita20
Originally Posted By: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica
The Feds started the task-force that works with South American countries in targeting MS-13 in '04. It was about that time when they seemed to be in the news like crazy.

I think the noteriety MS-13 garnered in the last decade or so worked very much against them, and directly led to the massive operations like the one in late 08 that saw some 650 suspects arrested across five or so countries.

http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/crime/2011/08/violent-ms-13-gang-fading-bay-area


MS-13 is nothing but low-iq and stupid indians. Violent, yes. Organized, structured, deliberate, cohesive, no. The idiots kill each other, wind up being incarcerated and make NO money in the process. Colombians defintely don't work with them(directly at least), mexicans probably do, they are indians as well.


Colombians are mostly indian too. Their cartels aren't what they used to be. Only the Valle Del Cauca cartel is known. Outside of this cartel, it are the paramilitary groups FARC, AUC, Urabenos, Aguilas Neras,...controlling the drug trade. Almost all of the people in these groups look extremely mestizo.

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LCN is closely alligned with hells angels in northeast.

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race color dont really matter in the criminal world anymore... hasent since the late 80's.

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agian race dont matter... who ever can get a corrupt doctor to prescribe them oxys or kolonipins.. hahaa


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