New doc on these coming out

http://epicfilmsnyc.com/future-releases/

FUTURE RELEASES

THE WESTIES

In the 80s tensions rose as a new leader, Jimmy Coonan waged a war against all who challenged him to take control of New York City’s Westside Irish Mafia. With Jimmy Coonan now boss and the erratic Mickey Featherstone his chief enforcer, Coonan forges a profitable alliance with the all powerful Italian mob which many Irish view as selling out his own to the Italians – Meanwhile a rabidly ambitious U.S. Attorney (and future mayor) obsessed with taking them down declares Coonan and The Westies Public Enemy #1. In Hell’s Kitchen it’s best to keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

But everythings relative. Demeo crew were a particulary homicidal bunch. For the times. You get a crew today who has 10 hits under its belt and relatively speaking to todays enviroment thats big.
But Lefty Ruggerio himself had 22-24 alone 30yrs back and wasnt considered THE most crazy/hard guy on the streets. By a long shot.

So sure, the Demeo crew for their time, had a high count.

But in terms of simple numbers?

1920's and 30's SHIT all over Demeo.

Murder in 1920 was A DIFFERENT thing to 1981.

yes, blackstein, you certainly are correct, In the decade of the 20s early 3os in new York, and Chicago the murders were horrendous. thank you for pointing that out.

I seem to remember that Capeci once quoted a book ( East side West side, I believe it was called) which proved that the number of hits for Murder Inc. were hugely inflated. Still, for todays standards, as Sonnyblackstein wrote, the numbers would be huge. But it's hard to give a good number for those old guys.
Would Nicoletti and/or Alderisio have a shot at the title? And how would it compare to, for instance, Bugsy Siegel who was a stone killer in his younger days? (anyone have any figures about him? I just know some stories which might as well by mythical.)

Think casso admitted to. 37 murder conspiracy s. On top of taking over Roy demeo crew after they killed him. Did casso admit to the feds he supervised the hit on demeo that be a cool fact. But probably demeo or jimmy coon an or jimmy Burke for gangsters after the books were open in the 70 tys. Steve flemmi in Boston or martorano are serial killers. Be tter question goe stste by state. Read that guy Richie the boot killed a lot or would dispose of bodies

I still believe that the old timers from Brooklyn like Albert Anastasia, the Luciano/Genovese crew and the "Murder Inc" fellas clipped more people than any other mobsters. I wouldn't doubt if they took out a couple witnesses who got in their way while they were in route to clip a guy.

Back in the prohibition era it would be a cinch to clip five, ten guys at a time if they were trying to hijack your booze. The amount of bodies that add up are just too many to count. The old timers are the ones who would kill a civilian that would get in their way of making money. They had no qualms about it. These situations and killing civilians are something that rarely occurred in modern day times. That's why I just don't see the numbers with the De Meo crew and the other modern crews.

Yea Richie the Boot vs Longy Zwillman read about them. Most people don't know about their beef. Longy Zwillman wasalways in my Pops neighborhood with Moretti and the others in the Luciano crew.

Dominic cataldo of the Colombo family had a pretty high body count by all accounts

There were also more killers back then. The question is which mobster had the highest personal body count. The problem is sometimes on guy would hold the victim down while another stabbed or strangled them. Does each hitter get half a kill? How about when two or more guys shoot one victim? In all honesty nobody would ever know because the guys who do tell-all books are full of shit and then there are others who keep their mouths shut and we'll never know how many they killed.

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Cool now the westies in in development too set for a 2016 release

http://m.imdb.com/title/tt1797526/

I didn't have to time to read everybody's answer on each page and everybody gave fantastic answers but did anybody mention Richard "ice man" Kuklinski? This son of a bitch was brutal but I heard that he exaggerated a little and took the credit for murders he didn't really commit. Also... Mad Sam destefano from Chicago was a absolute psychopath. Frankie Carbo from the lucchese's put in A lot of work during prohibition and in the murder inc era. And whitey bulger ...... He was a nut job !! No exaggeration there. He killed a lot of guys in the 70's and 80's alone. Gerry pappa that was in the Brooklyn faction of the genovese family was another nut with a gun!

[quote=Alfanosgirl]I still believe that the old timers from Brooklyn like Albert Anastasia, the Luciano/Genovese crew and the "Murder Inc" fellas clipped more people than any other mobsters. I wouldn't doubt if they took out a couple witnesses who got in their way while they were in route to clip a guy.

Back in the prohibition era it would be a cinch to clip five, ten guys at a time if they were trying to hijack your booze. The amount of bodies that add up are just too many to count. The old timers are the ones who would kill a civilian that would get in their way of making money. They had no qualms about it. These situations and killing civilians are something that rarely occurred in modern day times. That's why I just don't see the numbers with the De Meo crew and the other modern crews. killing civilians,the killing of innocent men,and women happened hundreds of times in the modern era. jimmy burkes crew killed many women, the Chicago outfit of the 40s, 50s killed many women, look what casso did, in the nineties, when galente was in prison he was always threating people that he would kill their families."we only kill our own" is a huge mafia myth.they killed many innocent civilians.

im sorry, my response started with killing civilians, I don't know what happened.

I get what you are saying... that there were innocents killed in modern times but the numbers just don't add up to the numbers in the earlier years.