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Is Franky from Casino based on anyone specifically #608492
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I was wondering if Franky(Frank Vincent) from Casino is based on anyone specifically? I'm sure we all know that Hollywood can barely use the phrase "Based on a True Story", but I'm curious.

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frank culotta here's an interview with the real franky from casino

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L1AhzfOUwA

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Re: Is Franky from Casino based on anyone specifically [Re: DannyP] #659597
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Most of you likely already know this, but had to share!

So I'm just starting to read his book, surprised (shocked?) to find out he was the performer in the Casino scene where they chase 'John Nance' (Jerry Lisner irl) through the house to kill him. Especially the lil' tidbit about Frank being the actual hitman the scene is based on.

I already knew about the lawyer being Tony's real lawyer, but this blew my mind even more. I always wondered who the actor was; he was in the cornfield scene, too iirc.

Are there any more mob cameos in there I missed? On that note, is there a thread detailing all real mafiosos appearing in mob flicks? If not, someone start one!


Re: Is Franky from Casino based on anyone specifically [Re: DannyP] #659615
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In The Godfather, Luca Brasi was played by ex-wrestler and ex-bodyguard for the Colombos, Lenny Montana. The paparazzi in the wedding scene was also part of the Italian American Civil Rights League which was connected to the Colombos.

In A Bronx Tale, Eddie Mush was played by himself. He may not be a Mob guy per se but he was a neighbourhood guy and a degenerate gambler.

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I always felt like there was a weird disconnect between Frankie Marino and Frank Cullotta. Can you imagine Frank from the movie flipping? Or appearing on VH1, etc. He just seems like such a tougher guy. Cullotta did kill a guy though, I just don't feel like he was as tough as the movie Frank Marino portrayed him to be.

The Remo Gaggi (Joey Aiuppa) role was pretty good though!

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Re: Is Franky from Casino based on anyone specifically [Re: DannyP] #659618
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Originally Posted By: DannyP
I was wondering if Franky(Frank Vincent) from Casino is based on anyone specifically? I'm sure we all know that Hollywood can barely use the phrase "Based on a True Story", but I'm curious.


Lmao

Re: Is Franky from Casino based on anyone specifically [Re: DannyP] #659643
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Yeah, Frank Cullotta is based on Frank Marino. Cullota is a hired technical advisor and play's a small role in being one of Gaggi's hitman. The Casino is not all true.. Cullotta now tells his story at Las Vegas, New York. He did it with Henry Hill but he passed and later Anthony Montana who was a Chicago Outfit Associate. Cullotta is now inducted into the LasVegas Mob Museum.

Re: Is Franky from Casino based on anyone specifically [Re: Antimacy] #659652
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Originally Posted By: Antimacy
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In The Godfather, Luca Brasi was played by ex-wrestler and ex-bodyguard for the Colombos, Lenny Montana. The paparazzi in the wedding scene was also part of the Italian American Civil Rights League which was connected to the Colombos.

In A Bronx Tale, Eddie Mush was played by himself. He may not be a Mob guy per se but he was a neighbourhood guy and a degenerate gambler.


Thanks. Lou Eppolito and Tony Darrow in Goodfellas are a couple more (although from what little I read about him, it seems Darrow got involved with the Gambinos after he played a mob guy in movies; so not sure that counts lol!)

Re: Is Franky from Casino based on anyone specifically [Re: Nick_the_Greek] #659848
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Originally Posted By: Nick_the_Greek
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In The Godfather, Luca Brasi was played by ex-wrestler and ex-bodyguard for the Colombos, Lenny Montana. The paparazzi in the wedding scene was also part of the Italian American Civil Rights League which was connected to the Colombos.

In A Bronx Tale, Eddie Mush was played by himself. He may not be a Mob guy per se but he was a neighbourhood guy and a degenerate gambler.


Thanks. Lou Eppolito and Tony Darrow in Goodfellas are a couple more (although from what little I read about him, it seems Darrow got involved with the Gambinos after he played a mob guy in movies; so not sure that counts lol!)

Although there’s a slight difference between Tony Darrow and Lenny Montana. After doing time and starting an acting career, Montana stopped hanging out with the Colombos. Then there is Darrow, a man could live happily ever after due to his Hollywood movies, but continues associating with known mobsters.

Re: Is Franky from Casino based on anyone specifically [Re: DannyP] #659964
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Cullotta is a rat, end of story. Very small parts of Marino are based on him, but in reality he never was responsible for bringing the skim back to Chicago or anywhere else. He was Spilotro's lackey-boy, and flipped long before Tony was killed. He didn't even get to do any real damage to the outfit because Spilotro was the only one he had real interactions with, and when he died, there went any use for Cullotta. I think he may have testified at Joey Doves' trial, maybe a couple other small ones, but nothing huge. Now he parades around like some big badass who grew tired of Spilotro's antics. In reality, he was a junkie scumbag who complains about Tony doing the same things he did. He's not quite on the level of a henry hill type scumbag, but damn near.

Re: Is Franky from Casino based on anyone specifically [Re: DannyP] #659978
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Check out chasingthefrog.com website and look up Casino - there's info on there about quite a few of the characters in Casino and their real life counterparts (Goodfellas as well)

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Originally Posted By: GrandAve
Cullotta is a rat, end of story. Very small parts of Marino are based on him, but in reality he never was responsible for bringing the skim back to Chicago or anywhere else. He was Spilotro's lackey-boy, and flipped long before Tony was killed. He didn't even get to do any real damage to the outfit because Spilotro was the only one he had real interactions with, and when he died, there went any use for Cullotta


Did you read his book, he more or less asserts what you're saying (only brought the skim back once or twice, pretty much Tony's errand boy, etc)

Scorsese likes to mix these stories up a bit, ya know? lol

Also...what does him being a rat have to do with anything?

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Lmaol thats good stuff eddie mush huh lol a real guy I bet u hes stand up too with s lot of old school credentials lol plead the 5th at every grand jury lol a couple contempts, no??


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Originally Posted By: GrandAve
Cullotta is a rat, end of story. Very small parts of Marino are based on him, but in reality he never was responsible for bringing the skim back to Chicago or anywhere else. He was Spilotro's lackey-boy, and flipped long before Tony was killed. He didn't even get to do any real damage to the outfit because Spilotro was the only one he had real interactions with, and when he died, there went any use for Cullotta. I think he may have testified at Joey Doves' trial, maybe a couple other small ones, but nothing huge. Now he parades around like some big badass who grew tired of Spilotro's antics. In reality, he was a junkie scumbag who complains about Tony doing the same things he did. He's not quite on the level of a henry hill type scumbag, but damn near.


Frank was an Important guy in Las Vegas for the Outfit. Frank wasnt just Spilotro's dick sucker he did do major things aswell. If Frank wasnt big he wouldnt of been choosen to join the Outfit.

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Who was the boston guy that was in the godfather?


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Originally Posted By: tommykarate
Who was the boston guy that was in the godfather?


What Boston guy?

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Culottes was never a made guy. But from what I heard he only flipped after he found out Spilotro was going to kill him. He said in an interview he participated in 4 hits, I think, 2 helping out and 2 that he pulled the trigger on.

Spilotro was by most accounts a psychopathic POS. Not sure I blame Cullotta.

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The Boston guy in the Godfather was Alex Rocco, who played Moe Green. Not positive, but I think he was connected to one of the Irish Mobs opposed to the Patriarcas. Not 100percent sure on the last part, but Rocco was definitely connected.

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Alex Rocco was from Massachusetts which isn't apart of Boston. Moe Greene wasn't from Boston either, Greene was based on Bugsy Siegel who was more Jewish than American.

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Originally Posted By: Imamobguy
Alex Rocco was from Massachusetts which isn't apart of Boston. Moe Greene wasn't from Boston either, Greene was based on Bugsy Siegel who was more Jewish than American.


Boston is a part of Massachusetts and Bugsy was born in America so he was one of the few early mafia figures who were actually American.

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No, Massachusetts is divided up with Boston but is apart of New England.

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Originally Posted By: Imamobguy
No, Massachusetts is divided up with Boston but is apart of New England.


What have you been smoking? I'm not even from the US and you stay next to Boston . Boston is the capital and largest city in the commonwealth of Massachusetts .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston confused

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New England is an area of 4 or 5 states including Massachusetts but it's like saying San Francisco isn't part of California it's part of the Southwest .

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Originally Posted By: Camarel
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No, Massachusetts is divided up with Boston but is apart of New England.


What have you been smoking? I'm not even from the US and you stay next to Boston . Boston is the capital and largest city in the commonwealth of Massachusetts .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston confused


Please. This guy is all over the place. He's from NY, no NJ, no NY. He's in the US, no he's in Scotland. He's writing a movie. No he's writing a book.


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No, Massachusetts is divided up with Boston but is apart of New England.


What have you been smoking? I'm not even from the US and you stay next to Boston . Boston is the capital and largest city in the commonwealth of Massachusetts .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston confused


lol

Please. This guy is all over the place. He's from NY, no NJ, no NY. He's in the US, no he's in Scotland. He's writing a movie. No he's writing a book.

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Originally Posted By: Imamobguy
Alex Rocco was from Massachusetts which isn't apart of Boston. Moe Greene wasn't from Boston either, Greene was based on Bugsy Siegel who was more Jewish than American.


Are you high? I live in Massachusetts pal. I can safely say that Boston is part of it, it being the state capital and all........ confused


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Originally Posted By: Imamobguy
Alex Rocco was from Massachusetts which isn't apart of Boston. Moe Greene wasn't from Boston either, Greene was based on Bugsy Siegel who was more Jewish than American.


The first sentence (bolded) is a true statement, but it's grammatically incorrect. It should read apart FROM Boston. It's a matter of semantics.

As for the second sentence ..... crazy


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Originally Posted By: SC
Originally Posted By: Imamobguy
Alex Rocco was from Massachusetts which isn't apart of Boston. Moe Greene wasn't from Boston either, Greene was based on Bugsy Siegel who was more Jewish than American.


The first sentence (bolded) is a true statement, but it's grammatically incorrect. It should read apart FROM Boston. It's a matter of semantics.

As for the second sentence ..... crazy


I get what you're saying and your right bjt after that he flat out said Boston isn't in Massachusetts

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You're right, Camarel. MobGuy's responses have been confusing.


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