Obv he is cooperating.. Goodnight Ligambi and Goodnight Borgesi.. Wow.. What a peice of crap.. He keeps his mouth shut, nobody would do any serious time including himself.. What a rat..

Jeez this could put a lot of guys away!

This is unreal.. How could this guy flip? He would be doing very little time.. I dont get this.. Im only thinking hes thinking about his life.. He is the guy who brought Frankie the Fixer to Ligambi.. Lou is not a made guy, so mby when he would be released he would get wacked.. Escp after the wiretaps about beating up Angelina..

I know it's a controversial opinion. But if the feds were completely moral they would avoid catching Ligambi because for once, here's a Philly boss who doesn't kill everything that moves. Call me a fanboy. But I hope this isn't true.

Barrett, I almost always agree with you and find your posts informative and accurate. I have to disagree with you here.

While Ligambi's reign has not been as violent as Stanfa and Scarfo, one murder is too many, even if the victim is a criminal / mobster. The moral thing to do is to lock up anyone involved in violent and non-violent crime.

My uncle was a bookie and loanshark. I want to believe he never got violent, but the truth is he almost certainly did.

We are all collectively interested in LCN or we would not be here. I do not think that makes you or anyone else a fanboy. I also think it is natural to pull for the proverbial bad guy every now and then, and Ligambi falls into that category for many because he has been viewed as a strong, quiet, old school boss.

Thanks for the compliment, means a lot. In a sense I know you're right. I'm a little on both sides. I just happen to be bitter over the overall dealings of OC law enforcement units across the country. At times it feels as though they focus their efforts on dethroning the incumbent mafia boss before even looking at him or his associates. And as for other gangs, more resources should be spent on Mara Salvatrucha and US representatives of the Mexican cartels (although politically that's a whole different thing). The first priority should always be to eliminate the most violent wrongdoers. My problem is not so much that they locked up Ligambi, and it's a problem that wasn't completely in federal control. My problem is more that violent Merlino supporters have a shot at terrorizing the city once again. May not happen, but once again, they have another shot at doing so. (This is coming from someone who knows other cities better than Philly)

Could be sort of like that deal years ago when Nick Caramandi got locked up and while he was incarcerated apparantley Long John Martorano was incarcerated at the same time and he told Caramandi that the word on the street was Scarfo was going to whack him,so that's when he flipped.And then there was the Feds playing back that tape for Sammy The Bull with Gotti apparantley going to whack him.I think u guys have good points when you say that about Bent Lou,cause Uncle Joe seemed real mad at him in that 1 video.

Also if this is true about him co-operating wouldn't he seem vulnerble with just that ankle bracelet.I mean what happens if somebody tries to whack him now,its not like the Feds are hiding him.

disagreed not all criminals are bad people. sometimes drugs, alcohol, financial security, and mental health all play a part in non violent crimes. if this country had as many dif rehab facilities as it did prisons it would be a better place. i was once a heroin addict who sold the drug to strictly support my habit. after being set up by the drug task force, i was given an alternative program called drug court. (pm if u wanna know what it is or google it) i'm so grateful to have this program in my life. it keeps me under a strict watch but also helped me change my thoughts and my actions greatly. not trying to be preachy! just thought i would share some of my expiernce, strength, and hope with you. (i've been through many correctional facilities and never learned a damn thing and never tried to be a better person. jails and prisons do nothing.

Kudos on rehabbing yourself. Getting off that stuff takes alot of willpower and mindcontrol. Having said that why does this bent finger guy have such an annoying grin? Does he have relatives in the life? It's no surprise the FBI is making a deal with this guy, he's a choir boy compared to some of their past confederates.

The FBI made deals with Leonetti in Philadelphia, killed over 10 people and played a part in killing many others. Mauratano, who was part of Whitey's crew in Boston and killed many individuals, including a woman. Gravano, whose many misdeeds are known. They even had Anthony Casso on their side and gave him a deal, which they later rescinded because he contradicted Gravano and invalidated Gravano's testimony by among other things, bringing up the fact Gravano was a drug trafficker, something he never admitted. Casso once killed someone and buried him alive just because he suspected he may flip. Can you imagine, if in your job you could bring someone off the street who has done all sorts of heinous things but who could guarantee a successful outcome on whatever project you were working on? That's what the prosecutors and fbi guys are doing by giving these individuals deals in exchange for cooperating. Just too damn lazy and egotistical to do their damn jobs. This would never fly in any other developed country. BUt in the land of the ignorant and home of the stupid everything is fair game.

But that's wat the feds want. Why do you think it's such a coincidence that when they released Merlino, they almost immediately caught Ligambi. They want to tempt Merlino and his supporters to step back in and fill up the vacuum so they can get him too and finish off the Philly mob once and for all. It's juist too obvious.

I definitely agree. Statement of the decade.

the feds would nothing more than to get merlino for ggood! he beat them at their the own game!

What could Lou have on the Merlino crew.. Lou wasnt even a made guy.. Im wonder how much info he has on murders or anything significant.. They have 14k wire taps supposebly in this case already.. This coward Bent Finger has now made everyones sentence atleast double or triple.. He keeps his mouth shut, nobody does more than 7 yrs

Isn't the general procedure to get potential informants into a MORE secure facility rather than just letting them go? What am I missing here?

Isn't this more what you would do if you had someone who would continue being a covert informant, with charges being dropped shortly afterwards?

Except for the whole covert being having been blown away...

Lenin and Mccarthy I could't agree with you more,something doesn't add up here.You just don't let a co-operating witness go off in to the streets of Philadelphia.Maybe everybody is jumping to conclusions.

if hes ratting i hope the worst for him all rats deserve death before dishonor

Ligambi should pay him to stay silemt or recant his stTEMENTS GIVE HIm A MILLION Cash to hide then kill him

Why? To be fair (and not to be mean) this is kind of a silly comment. As much as there is a problem with the witness protection program and benefits too generous being offered for informants, its not for this reason. I will agree with you that turning states is a bit of a twisted move in extreme circumstances, but I wouldn't generalize. For instance, Sonny Franzese ratting out his father for god knows why. Strange, maybe a little perverse. But beyond such extreme situations, informant have helped cripple the mob to a point where all but the most confident families are avoiding violence and murder. Informants and shrinking Italian populations, that is.

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It's called general attrition, and you're right. To make it short and to the point: There's no "new blood."

And the second and third generation Italian Americans in the United States are among the most upwardly mobile European ethnic groups in the entire country. Why pick up a gun when you can go to college, better yourself, and give your family an honest, respectable life?

The Italian immigrants of the early 20th century didn't have this option open to them, so if you want to make excuses for them becoming gangsters, you might have a valid point. But today there's no excuse; and to the credit of most of the younger Italian Americans, they know it. I just don't see as many mob "wannabes" today as when I was a young guy. And that's a good thing.

what about those third generationers italian americans who are both lazy and ambitious

We don't know if he is ratting for sure, and we don't know how much info he has on the other guys like Ligambi, I have no idea if he was in Ligambi's inner cirlce, if he was, I bet Ligambi and guys like Mousie are kicking themselves they didn't have him whacked out.

If he ratted...wouldn't Anastasia have an article or video on this by now? He has sources within the FBI and the mob. Hopefully on mob talk tomorrow we'll get more answers, it's all speculation until then.

It's entirely possible that the Feds sprung him early to make him appear to be a rat; this way he has no choice but to cooperate. They've used this tactic before.

But my money says he's in the Program by the time the temperature gets down into the 70s.

i know georgie has connects but i dont think like that.....

Borgesi himself use to be one of Anastasia's sources, a lot of guys on the street talk to him...

perhaps with the mob but not within the fbi. i mean he might by I MYSELF highly doubt it.

How about the other guy who plead guilty ,Esposito?Maybe out of everybody these are the only 2 to have plead guilty.So by pleading guilty early maybe they just got some time knocked off their sentences.Like that 1 lawyer said why would Bent Finger rat he was only facing 50 months.So maybe by pleading guilty early he'll do half that.Why would you uproot your whole life and endanger your family when your only facing a little over 4 years in prison.Does not add up.

I really hope hes not a rat but like the lawyer said.. its pretty obvious he is cooperating.. I would hate to see Ligambi.. Staino and the boys do a long stretch bc of this guy.. Escp him..

i wonder what merlinos thinking he could just come right back if bent finger loiu is a rat and they go down the path is clear him and his old entourage of mazzone and johnny chang
I wonder why no news reporters have tried to film or talk to joey in florida i thought he was a celebrity gangster? wheres the paparazzi?