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Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: Dapper_Don] #614304
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Well in your example you are right Dapper D, but Nick Scarfo Sr, who is already serving a life sentence, was or is going to be left out of an insider trading indictment that him and his son orchestrated. Nigro though is a pest to the Feds from what Anthony Arillota gave to them. Nigro was a Boss and was making people, ordering murders, the Feds want guys like him. But I am still not sure if it was him dealing with Mark Rossetti, but it will all come out.

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Are you talking about the fat kid, or the people who own his building???

Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: vinnygorgeous217] #614334
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Originally Posted By: vinnygorgeous217
Are you talking about the fat kid, or the people who own his building???



I was talking bout the guy who owns the building

Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: vinnygorgeous217] #614365
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Originally Posted By: vinnygorgeous217
Well in your example you are right Dapper D, but Nick Scarfo Sr, who is already serving a life sentence, was or is going to be left out of an insider trading indictment that him and his son orchestrated. Nigro though is a pest to the Feds from what Anthony Arillota gave to them. Nigro was a Boss and was making people, ordering murders, the Feds want guys like him. But I am still not sure if it was him dealing with Mark Rossetti, but it will all come out.


well that remains to be seen if nicky sr will be left out, they might try him and move him to a more secure facility or use the threat of that against nicky jr to get him to plea/flip


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Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: vinnygorgeous217] #614381
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You don't think the guy that owns the building still supplements his income??? I sort of had the notion it was in his blood. No?


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Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: sittite] #614382
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what do you mean? J and S? If they what with their income?

Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: Dapper_Don] #614469
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
Originally Posted By: vinnygorgeous217
Well in your example you are right Dapper D, but Nick Scarfo Sr, who is already serving a life sentence, was or is going to be left out of an insider trading indictment that him and his son orchestrated. Nigro though is a pest to the Feds from what Anthony Arillota gave to them. Nigro was a Boss and was making people, ordering murders, the Feds want guys like him. But I am still not sure if it was him dealing with Mark Rossetti, but it will all come out.


well that remains to be seen if nicky sr will be left out, they might try him and move him to a more secure facility or use the threat of that against nicky jr to get him to plea/flip



I don't c scarfo or nigro being brought up on new charges unless they are murder related

Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: vinnygorgeous217] #614680
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Oh boy here we go again. Ladies and Gentlemen I am sorry to report that yet another Mafia informant has come out of the woodwork in New England, though it has not hit the news stands yet. Robert "Bobby" Deluca the alleged Acting Underboss for Carmen Dinunzio, and serving as Anthony "Tony" Dinunzio's right hand in the administration of the Patriarca Family has been the subject of rumors swurling from Providence up to Boston that he also like Mark Rossetti is a paid informant for the FBI. This is a devastating blow, worse than Rossetti, the entire crew in Rhode Island is subject to indictment, along with everyone in Boston because of Mark Rossetti. The guys in Connecticut have a problem, as well as guys in New York who are being kept secret from the public. Deluca unlike Rossetti was made with Raymond Jr and his brief administration, but shined ultimately under Frank Salemme like Rossetti in the 1990's. It seems Salemme's reign really self destructed the 100 year old Cosa Nostra in Massachusetts, not only did it spark a civil war among warring factions, but it brought people into the picture that should have been under the frame. Robert Deluca is now supposedly the made guy that will testify against Luigi Manocchio along with Anthony St.Laurent and Mark Rossetti, this is huge, and you heard it hear first, like dominoes, everyone is going to fall, never to be brought back up again, unless a young prodigy can re-stabilize a Family that can't stabilize itself and ran it right into the ground.

Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: vinnygorgeous217] #614689
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.

if this is true providence is done. Boston may be able to stand the rosetti hit due to the fact they have some older guys who i can guarantee were not involved with MR. Question is do they want the big chair but providence will b destroyed

Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: vinnygorgeous217] #614694
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NO WAY!
It is huge.
Man...see ya providence...

Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: vinnygorgeous217] #614695
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Why youse being so nosy?
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Why youse being so nosy?
It's not the roman empire coming undone. Just some more high-school dropouts doing what they do best, getting by. FBI would make a deal with hannibal lecter if it suited their purpose.

Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: vinnygorgeous217] #614696
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Hold on...can we get a link or something?

Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: vinnygorgeous217] #614710
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Don't have one yet, but it is going to come out, Deluca is cooperating as we speak.

Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: vinnygorgeous217] #614711
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Deluca a rat???? wowwwwwwwww


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Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: vinnygorgeous217] #614716
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if these 2 guys wipe out all the active guys it will b interesting to c who steps up.

Does a older semi-retired guy come out of retirement ?? Or some young guys grab there balls and step up??

Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: vinnygorgeous217] #614723
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This is the first Ive heard of Bobby DeLuca having flipped. Interesting no doubt. But are there any articles or press releases confirming?

And dont ever be "sorry to report" Vinny. These guys are for the most part scumbags, and every guy that flips gives us that much more info and brings us that much closer to their decimation.


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Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: vinnygorgeous217] #614727
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Somewhat ironic considering the Saint wanted to whack DeLuca because Deluca accused him of being a rat. Every man for himself. No more honor amongst thieves if there ever was. Man, he was the last one I expected. Figured he was a candidate for boss depending on who went down.

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Originally Posted By: mike68
Somewhat ironic considering the Saint wanted to whack DeLuca because Deluca accused him of being a rat. Every man for himself. No more honor amongst thieves if there ever was.


Exactly!!!

Rumors pointed to the Saint cooperating as well which remains to be seen

at this point might as well have the Genovese take over the family and start over haha


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Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: Dapper_Don] #614731
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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don
at this point might as well have the Genovese take over the family and start over haha

lol At this point I bet the rank and file Patriarca guys left would agree.


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Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: vinnygorgeous217] #614734
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Originally Posted By: vinnygorgeous217
Oh boy here we go again. Ladies and Gentlemen I am sorry to report that yet another Mafia informant has come out of the woodwork in New England, though it has not hit the news stands yet. Robert "Bobby" Deluca the alleged Acting Underboss for Carmen Dinunzio, and serving as Anthony "Tony" Dinunzio's right hand in the administration of the Patriarca Family has been the subject of rumors swurling from Providence up to Boston that he also like Mark Rossetti is a paid informant for the FBI. This is a devastating blow, worse than Rossetti, the entire crew in Rhode Island is subject to indictment, along with everyone in Boston because of Mark Rossetti. The guys in Connecticut have a problem, as well as guys in New York who are being kept secret from the public. Deluca unlike Rossetti was made with Raymond Jr and his brief administration, but shined ultimately under Frank Salemme like Rossetti in the 1990's. It seems Salemme's reign really self destructed the 100 year old Cosa Nostra in Massachusetts, not only did it spark a civil war among warring factions, but it brought people into the picture that should have been under the frame. Robert Deluca is now supposedly the made guy that will testify against Luigi Manocchio along with Anthony St.Laurent and Mark Rossetti, this is huge, and you heard it hear first, like dominoes, everyone is going to fall, never to be brought back up again, unless a young prodigy can re-stabilize a Family that can't stabilize itself and ran it right into the ground.


so the fbi flipped deluca, rossetti, and the saint to get luigi whos probably going to croak by the time this goes to trial?

its obv to me they should have been going after deluca and rossetti and not flipping them to get an 80+ year old boss the guys on the street that are younger are more dangerous but its a net they throw and they get whoever they want, damm this is crazy info


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Re: Mark Rossetti being an FBI informant [Re: thebarber] #614804
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Well you might see New York here with the remnants of the Family to keep the money flowing in, but I really cannot predict a future for this family, because right now, there isnt one to really predict because there's nothing.

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It's a wrap........is deluca still out and about business as usual at the moment???


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From what I hear he and his family were removed from their homes either by the FBI or the Rhode Island State Police, nobody knows where he is, he's long gone and protected.

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Nobody is safe now.....


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Originally Posted By: Dapper_Don


at this point might as well have the Genovese take over the family and start over haha


+1 on this.

It's be interesting to see the Genovese take over a lot of the mid-west/eastern families. Essentially anything The Outfit doesn't control. Put some influence in Detroit, Cleveland/Youngstown, Pittsburgh and hell...St. Louis/KC --- if such families still exist.


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One has to realize that by spreading and branching out brings tremendous heat from the FBI. The Gambinos had crews as early as 2008 in California, Denver, Florida, New Jersey, New York, and Connecticut, and in Italy. When the Feds realized this they launched operation "Old Bridge," and took down 80+ Mafia members and associates. Now some guys were nailed earlier in California and Denver where they had some guys running high stakes card games, drugs, and loansharking. But when the Feds realized the Gambinos still had tenticles like that they swooped in hard.

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i think we need to wait some time and c how thee MR case pans out b4 we give up New England to the NY families. In my opinoin if deluca has flipped providence is over. All the major players will b gone. LM, EL, chppy, bobo will all be in the can .

In my opinoin boston has more guys with juice left and will take the hit better and keep on going. They have some young guys in the can that will b home soon, some powerhouses from the 70-80's who have been laying low that may decide to pounce on the chance to take over everything and there is a few of young associates on the streets that are capable of becoming players.

The New England family may become the Boston family but they will not totally disappear . U can bet on that

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Originally Posted By: vinnygorgeous217
One has to realize that by spreading and branching out brings tremendous heat from the FBI. The Gambinos had crews as early as 2008 in California, Denver, Florida, New Jersey, New York, and Connecticut, and in Italy. When the Feds realized this they launched operation "Old Bridge," and took down 80+ Mafia members and associates. Now some guys were nailed earlier in California and Denver where they had some guys running high stakes card games, drugs, and loansharking. But when the Feds realized the Gambinos still had tenticles like that they swooped in hard.


i see your point but regardless there will be fbi heat and with the dissolution/consolidation of other families that will undoubtedly bring more heat on the families that are left standing (NY)


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Originally Posted By: vinnygorgeous217
One has to realize that by spreading and branching out brings tremendous heat from the FBI. The Gambinos had crews as early as 2008 in California, Denver, Florida, New Jersey, New York, and Connecticut, and in Italy. When the Feds realized this they launched operation "Old Bridge," and took down 80+ Mafia members and associates. Now some guys were nailed earlier in California and Denver where they had some guys running high stakes card games, drugs, and loansharking. But when the Feds realized the Gambinos still had tenticles like that they swooped in hard.


California? Any links man?

BTW, operation "Old Bridge" was a Media-oritented crackdown. I think that 80% of those indicted are already out. At least on this side of the Atlantic.
Heck, even Italian Dom was busted...and here he is in control of the family.

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vinny they mentioned you in the newspapers, check it out!

Everybody else uses cyberspace to circulate false rumors about their rivals, so it was probably only a matter of time until the underworld discovered the infinite possibilities of the Internet.
A rumor went around this week that one of the leading gangsters in what’s left of organized crime in New England had flipped, become a rat. First it was just a whisper, but then it appeared on the Internet, posted by some guy with the moniker “vinniegorgeous,” after a New York gangster.
“Oh boy here we go again. Ladies and Gentlemen I am sorry to report that yet another Mafia informant has come out of the woodwork in New England, though it has not hit the newsstands yet.”
Nicely done. He’s giving you the scoop, and the fact that it hasn’t appeared in the papers yet doesn’t mean it’s not true, it means that you’re getting the news first, ahead of all the squares.
Is this true? I don’t know. I called a guy who’s close to the alleged rat and he says he saw him last weekend.
“I don’t believe a word of it,” my friend said.
Here’s the genesis of the rumor. The guy hasn’t been seen for a couple of weeks. Now, in the old days, everyone would have jumped to the same conclusion: Somebody whacked him. You’d ask around and some wiseguy would take the stogie out of his mouth, shake his head slowly and rasp, “He’s gone to California.”
Gone to California. Or, as they said in “The Godfather,” “He sleeps with the fishes.”
Nowadays, though, if you go MIA, the wiseguys jump to a completely different conclusion. They figure you flipped and have vanished into the Witness Protection Program. You’re now a hardware store owner in Iowa.
So “vinniegorgeous” says that this guy (who I’m not naming because I can’t nail down the story, if indeed there is a story) “will now testify against” another recently indicted mobster.
Saying things like that is a good way to get somebody shot.
Of course rumors didn’t start with the Internet. Remember Zip Connolly, the corrupt FBI agent now doing 40 years in Florida on a murder rap? He got Frank Salemme shot by (anonymously) predicting a gang war on the front page of this newspaper. Two days later, Salemme’s rivals struck first, gunning him down in the parking lot of the Saugus IHOP.
But planting a newspaper story requires a middleman — a reporter. With the Internet, vinniegorgeous can just sit at home in front of his screen and create just as much havoc without talking to a single soul.
These rumors affect stock prices all the time on Wall Street. It’s why doctors just sealed their Internet files. It’s why you hear new companies advertising on the radio, offering to clean up what’s said about businesses online.
“You heard it hear (sic) first,” vinniegorgeous wraps up. “Like dominoes, everyone’s going to fall, never to be brought back up again, unless a young prodigy can stabilize a Family that can’t stabilize itself.”
A young prodigy? A messiah. Like, maybe, vinniegorgeous? Probably not. I figure, this was written either by somebody who doesn’t like the guy he’s accusing of being a rat, or a cop.
I’d bet on the hood, but I could be wrong.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/view.bg?articleid=1366720&format=text

http://fivefamiliesnyc.blogspot.com/


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