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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: SC] #601661
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Andrew Sullivan:

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Can I say how deeply moving it is that a man named Barack Hussein Obama gave the order for the operation that killed Osama bin Laden?


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Someone should tell the jackasses celebrating outside the White House that they're probably inciting another attack.

Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: Frank_Nitti] #601663
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Originally Posted By: Frank_Nitti
Someone should tell the jackasses celebrating outside the White House that they're probably inciting another attack.


You mind holding back the piss till tomorrow at least?

Seriously let's not fuck up this feel good moment right now. OK?

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Originally Posted By: Frank_Nitti
Someone should tell the jackasses celebrating outside the White House that they're probably inciting another attack.


Maybe you should head out there with a megaphone.


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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #601665
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Thanks RR

I wasn't going to phrase it quite like that but hell yea.......this IS something to celebrate. smile



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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: Frank_Nitti] #601666
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Originally Posted By: Frank_Nitti
Someone should tell the jackasses celebrating outside the White House that they're probably inciting another attack.


Like the celebrations going on back on 9/11... burning American flags and dancing in the streets when news of the terrorist attacks reached them??

I think this is a wonderful sight to see, but if you feel that strongly, why don't YOU go to Washington and tell the crowds to quiet down?


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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: SC] #601667
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It's a great day. Not just for Americans, but for every man and woman who believes in freedom, love and peace.


"What is given, can be taken away. Everyone lies. Everyone dies." - Casey Anthony, in a poem, July 7, 2008
Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: SC] #601668
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Originally Posted By: SC

Like the celebrations going on back on 9/11... burning American flags and dancing in the streets when news of the terrorist attacks reached them??

I think this is a wonderful sight to see, but if you feel that strongly, why don't YOU go to Washington and tell the crowds to quiet down?


Exactly!


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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: IvyLeague] #601669
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Did anyone see the news coverage of the crowd gathered at Ground Zero? There are a few hundred people there and they just sang the national anthem.


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Originally Posted By: Frank_Nitti
Someone should tell the jackasses celebrating outside the White House that they're probably inciting another attack.


I couldn't agree more. We should all stop celebrating, EVERYONE go back into your houses and Pray for the Soul of Osama Bin Laden. We should all write letters to Al Qaeda members expressing our deepest sympathies and BEG them not to do anything. I have 3 letters written already, we should all learn, as Americans, to just let the world do what they want to us and we shouldn't try to anger them in any way, shape or form.


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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #601671
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Thanks RR

I wasn't going to phrase it quite like that but hell yea.......this IS something to celebrate. smile



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I say we do what the good ole Beastie Boys would recommend: Make Some Noise!


Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: SC] #601672
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Guess SC is watching CNN whistle

Yeah, I switched channels (FNC has a canned Obama biopic going a little while back so I switched) wink



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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: J Geoff] #601673
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Originally Posted By: J Geoff
Yeah, I switched channels (FNC has a canned Obama biobic going a little while back so I switched)


That's good.... a real don doesn't watch Fox.


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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: SC] #601674
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Hey Geoff,

Make sure you save this thread with the other 911 thread. We don't want to lose the "as it happened" feeling. Not that I'm telling you what to do. tongue
But, seriously!! wink




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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: SC] #601675
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Originally Posted By: SC
a real don doesn't watch Fox.


I don't know about that, but let's keep it bipartisan wink



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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #601676
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
Hey Geoff,

Make sure you...


Ahh, the Boss speaks!! grin wink

So far I haven't had to delete anything for disk space reasons -- for years! So we should be good. wink



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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #601677
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BTW,

Talk about having the last laugh on OBL. Can you imagine OBL reaction if he was told not only that the U.S. would kill him, BUT that he'd be carried away by U.S. forces. grin


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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: SC] #601678
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I wonder how this all went down. I can picture Osama shaking like a bitch when they broke into that house lol.


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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: SC] #601680
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Mets won eek



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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: SC] #601681
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It seemed to me like, after a little over nine years, the biggest anticlimax in my lifetime. I really thought people didn't care anymore.

I find it inexplicably comforting to see I was wrong.

Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: SC] #601682
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This is a real headline over at AICN.com:

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Will killing Osama Bin Laden make CAPTAIN AMERICA the film to beat this summer?


what the fuck?

Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: SC] #601683
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US tracked couriers to an elaborate bin Laden compound
He died in firefight along with his son, two couriers, US officials say; Pakistan was not told in advance
By Bill Dedman
May 2, 2011



It started with a courier's name.

Senior White House officials said early Monday that the trail that led to Osama bin Laden began before 9/11, before the terror attacks that brought bin Laden to prominence. The trail warmed up last fall, when it discovered an elaborate compound in Pakistan.

"From the time that we first recognized bin Laden as a threat, the U.S. gathered information on people in bin Laden's circle, including his personal couriers," a senior official in the Obama administration said in a background briefing from the White House.

After the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, "detainees gave us information on couriers. One courier in particular had our constant attention. Detainees gave us his nom de guerre, his pseudonym, and also identified this man as one of the few couriers trusted by bin Laden."

In 2007, the U.S. learned the man's name.

In 2009, "we identified areas in Pakistan where the courier and his brother operated. They were very careful, reinforcing belief we were on the right track."

In August 2010, "we found their home in Abbatabad," in an isolated area.

"When we saw the compound, we were shocked by what we saw: an extraordinarily unique compound."

The plot of land was roughly eight times larger than the other homes in the area. It was built in 2005 on the outskirts of town, but now some other homes are nearby.

"Physical security is extraordinary: 12 to 16 foot walls, walled areas, restricted access by two security gates." The residents burn their trash, unlike their neighbors. There are windows facing the road. One part of the compound has its own seven-foot privacy wall.

And unusual for a multi-million-dollar home: It has no telephone or Internet service.

This home, U.S. intelligence analysts concluded, was "custom built to hide someone of significance."

Besides the two brothers, the U.S. "soon learned that a third family lived there, whose size and makeup of family we believed to match those we believed would be with bin Laden. Our best information was that bin Laden was there with his youngest wife."

There was no proof, but everything seemed to fit: the security, the background of the couriers, the design of the compound.

"Our analysts looked at this from every angle. No other candidate fit the bill as well as bin Laden did," an official said.

"The bottom line of our collection and analysis was that we had high confidnece that the compound held a high-value terrorist target. There was a strong probability that it was bin Laden."

This information was shared "with no other country," an official said. "Only a very small group of people inside our own government knew of this operation in advance."

The raid

The operation went smoothly except for a mechanical problem with a U.S. helicopter, which was lost, the senior officials said. No U.S. personnel died. All were able to leave on other helicopters. the officials would not name the type of helicopter or say how many U.S. personnel were involved.

"Ths operation was a surgical raid by a small team designed to minimize collateral damage. Our team was on the compound for under 40 minutes and did not encounter any local authorities."

Bin Laden himself participated in the firefight, the officials suggested.

"Bin laden was killed in a firefight as our operators came onto the compound," an official said.

Did he fire, a reporter asked.

"He did resist the assault force, and he was killed in a firefight," an official said.

Four adult males were killed: bin Laden, his son, and the two couriers.

"One woman killed when used as a shield," and other women were injured, the officials said. The women's names were not given; it's not clear whether bin Laden's wife was among them.

Handling bin Laden's body

Officials said they will take care with bin Laden's body.

"We are assuring it is handled in accordance with Islamic practice and tradition," an official said. "We take this very seriously. This is being handled in an appropriate manner."

The officials also said they expect attacks from bin Laden's loyalists who may step up the timing of attacks.

"In the wake of this operation, there may be a heightened threat to the U.S. homeland. The U.S. is taking every possible precaution." The State Department has sent advisories to embassies worldwide and has issued a travel ban for Pakistan.

"Although al-Qaeda will not fragment immediately," an official said, "the death of bin Laden puts al-Qaeda on a path of decline that will be difficult to reverse."

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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: SC] #601684
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"[I]f we have Osama bin Laden in our sights and the Pakistani government is unable or unwilling to take them out, then I think that we have to act, and we will take them out. We will kill bin Laden. We will crush al Qaeda. That has to be our biggest national security priority," - Barack Obama, 2008.

Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #601685
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Four adult males were killed: bin Laden, his son, and the two couriers.

"One woman killed when used as a shield," and other women were injured, the officials said. The women's names were not given; it's not clear whether bin Laden's wife was among them.


What scumbag cowards.


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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: Lenin_and_McCarthy] #601686
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Originally Posted By: Lenin_and_McCarthy
It seemed to me like, after a little over nine years, the biggest anticlimax in my lifetime. I really thought people didn't care anymore.

I find it inexplicably comforting to see I was wrong.


Nicely said.


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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: SC] #601687
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Using a woman as a shield tells you everything you need to know about these animals. Their lives aren't worth a dime.


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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: IvyLeague] #601689
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I almost assumed those typos were yours, sorry -- even more sadly, they're from MSNBC ohwell



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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: J Geoff] #601690
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Originally Posted By: J Geoff


I almost assumed those typos were yours, sorry -- even more sadly, they're from MSNBC ohwell


I don't care for MSNBC myself but it was the latest I could find on exactly what happened.


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Re: Osama bin Laden Dead [Re: SC] #601692
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I don't know what you guys are talking about....George Bush is a Warmonger and baby killer. Bush lied...people died. Remember??? Now the same folks who've been sporting 'Bush not my President' shirts are ready to chant 'U.S.A' and pound their collective chests over the death of one man. I guess since there aren't any football games in season to get excited about they need something to fill their lives with.

But Americans have become so pseudo gladiatorial in nature. To the point where they've no qualms about provoking an almost inevitable terrorist attack that's sure to follow in the coming weeks.

Any excuse for a barbecue and keg party I guess. ohwell

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Originally Posted By: Frank_Nitti

Any excuse for a barbecue and keg party I guess. ohwell


You've gotta be kidding.


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