Starts tonight. Hilarious online article here:


http://www.buddytv.com/articles/the-apprentice/25-reasons-to-watch-the-new-se-39581.aspx

To be fair, all celebrities compete on behalf of a favorite charity (Bret Michaels did ALOT for diabetes research), but it's true there are alot of B-List or 'Has-Beens' that tend to be signed up. This season's cast:

LaToya Jackson
Gary Busey
NeNe Leakes (Real Housewives of Atlanta)
Star Jones
Lisa Rinna
Marlee Matlin
Dionne Warwick
David Cassidy
John Rich
Richard Hatch (former "Survivor" champ)
Meat Loaf
Mark McGrath
Jose Canseco (retired baseball player)
Lil' Jon (rapper
Niki Taylor (model)
Hope Dworaczyk (reigning Playboy Playmate of the Year)

I hate almost everybody on that list . But this could be good tv though. Gary Busey is such a goddamn retard. I can't wait to hear him explain how beautiful and great Jesus Christ is.

Jose Canseco... wow... I thought that was him in the brief commercial spot I saw for this. Still not gonna watch it, tho...

Wow...David Cassidy has to be the biggest pussy in reality tv history. I'm sure he's a nice guy and everything, but damn! Slap a pair of tits on him and he's a woman.

You talk like that in front of your mother, Vinny?

No, my mother doesn't speak English.

I felt bad for David being the first one fired but he DID come across as a bit of a weenie and Richard Hatch skillfully turned the tables on him.

I don't think David would've gotten too much respect had he stayed around long enough to be a project manager.

Just out of random curiosity, what is your mom's native language?

It was definitely tough to look at it. I just wanted to shake the guy, tell him to fight, anything other then do what he did. Trump had no other choice.

As far as Hatch goes, he's an arrogant prick, but at least he can fight for himself and I wouldn't be surprised if he goes far here.

He had a bit of a chance to stay, too...until he kept looking to Jose for support like a big brother.

What I'm really looking forward to is first time the women's team loses. The ladies are always about sisterhood and women working together harmoniously...but when those cats are scratching at each other to stay on the show it is truly going to be something to see! (They already went at it a bit even before hearing they won the task...!)

I'd love to have Meat Loaf win. It's just very hard to root for anyone here. I really don't like the majority of the people. And why is Gary Busey not in some cage? I don't feel safe walking the street with that guy loose. LaToya Jackson is also creeping me out. I'm sure she's a nice lady and everything, but she's creeping me out. But I will say this, I LOVE Marlee Matlin. Not because of the deaf thing, there's just something really beautiful about her. Don't know what it is. Maybe her smile or something.

I love Marlee too....always have. That NeNe from Real Housewives is going to be hard to shut up when she gets going and it doesn't seem to take much to get her going.

It's difficult to pick a favorite this early in the game, better to watch each episode and see how everybody handles themselves. The most interesting thing about the Boardroom is that sometimes it's obvious who should be fired but then after a bit of questionning somebody can say JUST the wrong thing and back themselves into a corner and that is when Trump (and the Jr. Trumps) shows no mercy. It happened to Cyndi Lauper last season; amazing to watch.

Richard Hatch back in prison.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/20...ent-back-prison

Geez...I sure hope he's not one of the two finalists.

Felt bad for Lisa Rinna. She seems like a classy lady. The fact that she got bullied into managing these closed minded bitches, namely Star and Dionne, was a sad thing to watch. No healthy human being could've managed these women. Do they even fucking bleed? The only other female who showed a lot of class was Marlee Matlin, who has always been great. She's a true queen. The more I see her express her views, the more I love her.

I agree about Lisa, she is a VERY classy lady. But...

Lisa did not manage the task well, and did not defend herself well in the Boardroom. The last thing you want to do as task manager is to ask everybody for ideas right off the bat. It indicates lack of leadership and that's when people like Star Jones go in for the jugular. They bullied her into managing for a reason...to eliminate her.

I cannot wait to see that old bag Dionne Warwick fired. She was incredibly demeaning & disrespectful to Marlee in this episode...and I'll be watching to her behavior in upcoming shows.

I was disgusted with Dionne Warwick's behavior. You look up the c word in a dictionary and there's a picture of Dionne Warwick right underneath it. I hope Trump tears her to pieces in there.

As far as Lisa goes, I think she's a much better leader than Star or Dionne. I also disagree with what you said. One of the best things a leader can do is ask his underlings for ideas. All great leaders take advantage of other people's minds. That is smart, because then you're not working with one mind anymore. You're strengthening your strategy. That is not a lack of leadership. That is smart leadership. Lisa's biggest flaw was being afraid in the boardroom. I think we all sensed that, but somehow she never lost her composure. That is strength. That is class. I think the Donald made a big mistake by firing Lisa Rinna.

That is absolutely true in the real world, and when you've actually GOT the job. But not in the world of The Apprentice (Celebrity or otherwise...).

I've seen too many times a task manager asking for ideas & suggestions and then getting pounced on for lack of leadership if the task was lost, and even before that. That's just what happened to Lisa.

The problem with Dionne Warwick is that for a while people MIGHT be deferential to her because of her age & showbiz status. One of the women even said (I think it was NeNe) that is is difficult to argue with a 70yr old music legend. Ms. Warwick seems to know that and is taking full advantage of it. We'll see how long that lasted for her.

You're right and that's the problem with The Apprentice. They want the leader to do everything, like that is what always makes a good leader. Sure some people are truly exceptional leaders and don't seem to need anyone. Well, good for them. The biggest problem Lisa had was her own team. Like you said, they wanted to get rid of her from the start. I don't blame her for being a little shook by that. Anybody is gonna have a tough time managing a team that wants you gone and talks to you like you're a child. The disrespect they showed her was disgusting. That negative environment was entirely caused by Star and Dionne. Does Trump really work in an environment like that?

Dionne's status is definitely playing a huge role in how the others are playing the game. I don't know, I've never been a fan of her music and if I ever met her, I'd talk to her the same way I talk to John Doe. Why be afraid to stand up to someone like that. What the hell is she gonna do? Hire a hitman. LaToya is another player that bothers me immensely.

The Apprentice is a competition reality show. The purpose is to WEED out and find a good leader amongst many contestants who alternate from working with each other to working against each other. Once your team loses, somebody has to be fired and The Boardroom is where Trump looks for what he needs in an Apprentice, not who he likes better as a person. If Lisa's lack of leadership led her to The Boardroom then that was where she could have saved herself by blaming Star and/or Dionne for the loss. Trump gave her several chances to do that. When a task manager is NOT fired, it is because they successfully made a member of their team come off as the weaker candidate. That is what Richard Hatch did the week before and what Lisa Rinna could not do.

Look out for when NeNe is a task manager because she will probably not ask for, nor be interested in the ideas or opinions of anybody.

Sometimes the leader isn't the problem. In this case, the leader was fine for the most part. The problem were the underlings. I know what this competition is about and I know what Donald Trump is about, but I don't always agree with his way of "weeding out" the contestants. Trump wanted Lisa to attack Dionne and Star for their part, mainly because they wrote and conceived the story. But ultimately, it was Lisa's decision. I don't think this matters, because they lost by so little. They could've won this, but I think the main reason they lost was due to the toxic environment created by Star and Dionne. They were tough to control and pretty much bullied their way through the task. You can't have people like that on your team. And this is what Lisa talked about when she defended herself, but apparently you and Donald Trump didn't hear it. Or understand it.

Actually, Lisa wasn't fine as task manager, wasn't fine as a leader, knew she wasn't ready to manage a task but let herself be talked into doing so...and pretty much conceded all of that, which was one of the things Trump didn't like.

When your team loses, either monetarily or via decision like this one...it doesn't matter if it's by alot or a little. A loss is a loss and somebody has to be fired. But...from what I recall of the episode, they lost by more than a little. I remember discussions that children had no concept of 'shy', and that the print was WAY too small for a children's book. Lisa could have blamed Dionne & Star for both these things, which then could've been thrown back at her for ok-ing both as task manager.

Which is why the Boardroom decision usually comes down to personalities and passion and how you scratch & claw your way out of a corner. Holly Robinson lost every task she managed last season and still managed to make it to the final two because of how she fought in the Boardroom. Trump wants to see passion and fight and wants a candidate to convince him WHY they should stay and/or somebody else should go. He does not want to see somebody admitting they weren't ready and didn't do well in controlling their team.

I've worked with good leaders for many years and believe me when I tell you this, Lisa Rinna is a good leader. The best leaders are kind people who are willing to listen to their group. Imagine how things would've went if she'd had a manageble team. A team who runs on positive energy. People like Star and Dionne could never be good leaders, because they poison the workplace. They don't last. They're arrogant motherfuckers who have too much pride to admit they're mistakes. Lisa showed strength and class by what she said in there. When somebody tells me they have a lot of things left to learn or they can do better, that does not mean the person is soft. But I guess it does to guys like Donald Trump and The Apprentice is his show. I know what it's about, but I'll continue to voice my opinion about it.

The decision to go with the story was ultimately Lisa's decision. The task manager has the final say. Except in this case, Lisa was almost bullied into going along with them. She voiced this, but like I said, it fell on deaf ears. Another thing to remember is Lisa was all alone. She was shaking and she could've crumbled, but she didn't. A beautiful and classy woman from A to Z.

Star was the winning manager the week before. Her project raised more money than any task in Celebrity Apprentice history. She had the same group to manage as Lisa did (and got the same attitude from Dionne, by the way).

I agree that Lisa showed strength and class. What she did NOT show was good leadership. She knew it, and she admitted it. And she was fired.

ONWARD to tonight's episode...only 3 hours away!!!

This statement alone points to bad leadership.

Any manager who allows themselves to be bullied (or intimidated) into going along with their team's decision...is neither a manager nor a leader.

At one point, Lisa asked Star over the phone to approve something...Star refused, as she was not the task manager. This was VERY wise on Star's part because it pointed away much of the responsibility in case their team lost.

I agree, but I said almost bullied. Pay attention. I never saw Lisa budge. What I did see were two women with a very bullying attitude. It's funny you mention Star being "VERY" wise when she refused to approve an idea Lisa had. Are you forgetting that Star wanted to have 'WRITTEN BY STAR JONES' on the cover of the book and Dionne wanted 'CONCEPT BY DIONNE WARWICK' right underneath that? Yeah, that's smart . Especially on The Apprentice where people who fight for credit are usually the ones with the biggest targets on their backs. But what did Lisa do? She refused to go a long with it. As hard as they tried to bully her into going a long with this, she did not budge. A good leader puts his team first and that's what she did. It was a team effort. Nothing more, nothing less.

Yes, I agree that one of the few times Lisa did show backbone on her task was in her refusal to put Dionne & Star's names on the book. She was right in that. And aside from that, she was bullied (not almost bullied) during the task itself. She couldn't even give a pre-performance pep talk without Dionne slapping her down.

And they lost.

Lisa didn't budge in the Boardroom in her standing up to the other two women. But she was also never able to articulate why either one of them should be fired instead of her.

What she DID do was admit to ALL her shortcomings to Trump, over & over. I really wanted her to stay but she dug her own hole & stepped right in. So as Trump said...he really had no choice but to let her go.

You need to watch this show again. She did not talk about her shortcomings over and over. She admitted she had a lot of things left to learn, but have you ever met anyone who doesn't have a lot of things left to learn? I haven't.

As far as the pre performance pep talk goes, I was DISGUSTED by that shit. All I could think was, are these women serious? It really didn't matter she did, it was never good enough. You think she got bullied into shutting up ? What the fuck are you gonna say to a person who doesn't want to hear your voice or anything you have to say? Are you gonna go tell them to go fuck themselves? Are you gonna put a shotgun to their heads? No. The more she tried, the more they resisted her! These bitches could NOT be managed. In a situation like this, there isn't much you can do. Fucking period.

Admitting that was completely honest of her...but not very encouraging to Trump. She admitted to several things that got her in deeper & deeper trouble, beginning with not wanting to manage the task in the first place, and being talked into it even though she thought she wasn't ready. She admitted to crumbling under the pressure. Not what you want to hear from your next Apprentice. Trump had to fire somebody...and Lisa proved the weakest of the 3. On top of being the losing task manager.

And no, I don't need to watch it again. Because whatever happened, Lisa Rinna is gone, that's not going to change, and I'm now revved up for Episode 3 which is less than a half hour away.

Gary Busey managing the men this week...oughta be good!!!!

The fact that she was the project manager is a good reason to fire her. And she was fired. It's just sad she got fired before Star and Dionne, two of the most toxic people in the history of reality television.

Yeah, Gary Busey . I can't wait to see that. If he wins, then I'll take back every bad thing I've ever said about him. 'Cuz he's either a fucking genius or a demented lunatic who should be committed to a psychiatric hospital ASAP.

She was set up to fail by Star and Warwick even before the event.
They were the ones who did the shit job, then threw her under the bus. all the while shifting focus back to her when they were called out by Trumps kid.

She wasn't smart enough to fight back and stand her ground like the two bitches did so Trump let her go.

Just like before, shit workers alway blame their boss because they let us do it!
She should of really stuck it to those two, but she was to much of a lady to do it like they did to her.