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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: Bozak] #597148
03/12/11 09:54 AM
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Good.

Some day, and that day may never come, I'll call upon you to do a service for me.

But until that day - accept this as a gift on somebody's daughter's wedding day.


A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.

- THOMAS JEFFERSON

Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: AppleOnYa] #597152
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Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
Good.

Some day, and that day may never come, I'll call upon you to do a service for me.

But until that day - accept this as a gift on somebody's daughter's wedding day.





Hey Apple,
I got the wash tub and four bags of cement...
where is this guy you want to sleep with the fishes?..... smile


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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: AppleOnYa] #597939
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All very great points Apple, As Always, along with Turnbull's post directly after this post of yours that i'm replying to,.......'fatherson', I am most likely the one you got the cement ready for..... panic However! I just had a hypothesis to add to my theory about why Michael wasn't shot dead right away, and DID see the shooters a fracion of a second soon enough for him to react. Here goes....... The shooters were running at the 'window/target', could that be the reaction? They couldn't have hidden themselves close enough to the house/window to "wait" for the right time. They had no idea when he was going to be in his room(besides other conspiracy theories not discussed in this post). Therefore the shooter would have had to waut from "afar" to wait for their chance....make sense?


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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: Bozak] #597965
03/20/11 12:05 PM
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Any hypothesis can 'make sense' if you want it to enough.

But honestly, the reason Michael Corleone wasn't shot dead right away is that that would've basically put Roth in charge & ended the film.

Nearly everything Michael does after that scene is a direct result of the the Tahoe shooting and his quest to find out why it was able to take place (i.e. who the traitor was that enabled it).

Last edited by AppleOnYa; 03/20/11 12:08 PM.

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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: AppleOnYa] #597968
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We don't know what kind of automatic weapon was used. However, an M16 has a range of at least 1,500 feet. So, yes, the shooters could have concealed themselves in the bushes and still peppered their target with quite a few bullets in just seconds. I still say that Michael saw the muzzle flash which keyed his reaction. Of course, he could have seen some movement of the shooters too.

But Apple's right (here I go again). The movie had to continue, so Michael avoids the hit.


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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: NickGeraci] #597986
03/20/11 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: NickGeraci
All very great points Apple, As Always, along with Turnbull's post directly after this post of yours that i'm replying to,.......'fatherson', I am most likely the one you got the cement ready for..... panic However! I just had a hypothesis to add to my theory about why Michael wasn't shot dead right away, and DID see the shooters a fracion of a second soon enough for him to react. Here goes....... The shooters were running at the 'window/target', could that be the reaction? They couldn't have hidden themselves close enough to the house/window to "wait" for the right time. They had no idea when he was going to be in his room(besides other conspiracy theories not discussed in this post). Therefore the shooter would have had to waut from "afar" to wait for their chance....make sense?



NO! lol lol lol


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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: olivant] #597989
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Originally Posted By: olivant
But Apple's right (here I go again). The movie had to continue, so Michael avoids the hit.


That's obviously the main reason. I real life, Michael probably would have been dead or severly wounded.

But it isn't unplausible to think that the shooters were hiding from a distance. It's not like they could just stand there and wait for Michael to appear without getting seen by the intense surveillance of the compound.


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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: Sonny_Black] #597994
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Originally Posted By: Sonny_Black
...But it isn't unplausible to think that the shooters were hiding from a distance...


Well of course it isn't.

That is a given.

But as long as we insist on entertaining 'hypotheses':

Has it dawned on anyone that Michael would not have needed to see a 'flash' or visual of any kind to suddenly know he was about to be a target? That even if he did, there would have been absolutely NO time to react due to the speed of the bullets? That after a mili-second of thought he would know exactly why the drapes were open and then immediately hit the ground?


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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: AppleOnYa] #598000
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Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
Has it dawned on anyone that Michael would not have needed to see a 'flash' or visual of any kind to suddenly know he was about to be a target? That even if he did, there would have been absolutely NO time to react due to the speed of the bullets?



Are you speaking from your vast experience on the battlefield?


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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: Bozak] #598001
03/20/11 04:22 PM
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No, just hypothesizing.


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- THOMAS JEFFERSON

Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: AppleOnYa] #598007
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Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
No, just hypothesizing.


Apple, Apple, Apple, Apple, Apple -- I wanna be reasonable with you. You can post here on the Board with your Board family. You won't be deprived of expressing any opinion. Just don't hypothesize.

Apple, if you don't listen to me -- and hypothesize -- you'll disappoint me.


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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: Bozak] #598011
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I'm trying to be nice to NickGeraci.

I know it's out of character but he seems like a pleasant enough fellow.

Don't you......AGREEEEEEEEE?????!!!!!!


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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: AppleOnYa] #598021
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Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
I'm trying to be nice to NickGeraci.

I know it's out of character but he seems like a pleasant enough fellow.

Don't you......AGREEEEEEEEE?????!!!!!!


NO! lol lol


ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: AppleOnYa] #598070
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Original geschrieben von: AppleOnYa
But honestly, the reason Michael Corleone wasn't shot dead right away is that that would've basically put Roth in charge & ended the film.


No. The reason that Michael wasn't shot dead right away is that FFC wanted us to develop silly stuff like drapes-opening-theories.

Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: Danito] #598072
03/21/11 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted By: Danito
...The reason that Michael wasn't shot dead right away is that FFC wanted us to develop silly stuff like drapes-opening-theories.


lol

Yes...and don't we all feel guilty for making him wait 30+ years to have this dream fulfilled.


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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: AppleOnYa] #598075
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Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
Originally Posted By: Danito
...The reason that Michael wasn't shot dead right away is that FFC wanted us to develop silly stuff like drapes-opening-theories.


lol

Yes...and don't we all feel guilty for making him wait 30+ years to have this dream fulfilled.


Damn the drapes! Re make the film with Rolladen Shutters.


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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: dontomasso] #598076
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Originally Posted By: dontomasso
Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
Originally Posted By: Danito
...The reason that Michael wasn't shot dead right away is that FFC wanted us to develop silly stuff like drapes-opening-theories.


lol

Yes...and don't we all feel guilty for making him wait 30+ years to have this dream fulfilled.


Damn the drapes! Re make the film with Rolladen Shutters.


Why not remake the film and make a horror movie out of it. It were evil spirits who opened the drapes. wink


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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: AppleOnYa] #598149
03/22/11 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
I'm trying to be nice to NickGeraci.

I know it's out of character but he seems like a pleasant enough fellow.

Don't you......AGREEEEEEEEE?????!!!!!!


Thank You Apple,......someone appreciates me, whistle and i promise I'm not M. Winegatrner in disguise....lol


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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: Bozak] #598155
03/22/11 09:14 AM
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Well, even if you were I wouldn't be afraid to let you know that your GF book sucked.


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- THOMAS JEFFERSON

Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: AppleOnYa] #598160
03/22/11 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted By: AppleOnYa
Well, even if you were I wouldn't be afraid to let you know that your GF book sucked.



Thats for sure...

which one you ask?

Both of them, You aren't afraid to let him know
and the book sucks. GAY ALFREDO... uhwhat


ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
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Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"

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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: Bozak] #598566
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Umm sounds like fatherson is really letting his emotions control his reasoning, Tsk Tsk.


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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: fathersson] #598567
03/25/11 09:49 PM
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(he really thinks I'm M.W. folks.......) lol shhh


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Re: Tahoe Shooting Question [Re: NickGeraci] #598575
03/26/11 12:04 AM
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Apple,
I think we are going to need some newspapers here. wink


ONLY gun owners have the POWER to PROTECT and PRESERVE our FREEDOM.
"...it is their (the people's) right and duty to be at all times armed" - Thomas Jefferson, June 5, 1824

Everyone should read. "HOW TO KILL A MOCKING BIRD"

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