Do you believe in life after death? single choice
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Believe or hope for?

Could there be an afterlife? Possibly.

Do I hope there's an afterlife? Absolutely.

Do I believe there's an afterlife? No.

Knowing what we know now, I think it's a very remote possibility. It's really nice to see that people are finally starting to think logically when it comes to this subject.

Perfectly stated.

For those having an issue with this matter I recommend talking to your local spiritual advisor.

But it's difficult for those who don't understand the four fundamental interactions of the physical world (i.e. non-contact forces, electromagnetism, strong interaction, weak interaction), much less their principles, to have much conceptualization of the fundamentals involving the non-physical world.

Nothing comes from nothing; nothing ever could.

Does this apply to God, as well?

I don't know, but God probably feels like the customer service rep at Walmart after answering ridiculous questions all day.

Give the guy a break. You'll all get your rebates and coupons so long as you're patient and don't act like you're entitled.

But seriously, can you imagine if it all really were as cut-and-dry or black-and-white as that? All the jackasses who'd be trying to book a 'room' at the Pearly Gates and ohh it would be somebody's ass if they don't get it on time or their little girl doesn't get a room with a window.

Could there be an afterlife? Nothing indicates that.

Do I hope there's an afterlife? Absolutely not.

Do I believe there's an afterlife? No.

No dice. If nothing can be created without a creator, then who is the creator of the creator? It is a valid question, and by no means ridiculous.

Many theists believe that "God" transcends the rules of the universe and the rules of man, which is convenient for those who believe in Him, but does nothing for those of us who are logical about the subject.

Theists also believe that faith transcends logic. Fair enough. But when the idea of God itself is full of so many contradictions, where do you draw the line?

Isn't faith believing in something when logic says not to?

Anyway, we all know God isn't a Customer Service rep at Wal*Mart.... he's at Target, right?

I didn't mean your question was ridiculous and I'm just messin' around. But I'm sure I don't have the answer to any of those questions you posed nor can I explain why the universe is seemingly endless and without boundaries.

If something comes from nothing then what is the source of said nothingness? Where do space and time come from?

Does one hit a brick wall at the end of the space-time continuum? Isn't there something on the other side of the wall and so forth?

Or is our universe one amongst many, like a marble piled on top of others in a bag? But then what's beyond the bag and who's holding it?

It all breaks down in the face of human logic, because isn't possible for the human mind to fully comprehend the infinite; it's simply greater than us and unattainable in this life form.

Target was definitely instrumental in my change of beliefs. Any deity that can allow a place as tortuous as Target to exist is just cruel

In all seriousness, your definition of faith is correct, and to be honest, I envy those who can set their logic aside and believe in something such as God. I used to be one of those people, and I honestly wish I could still do that. Atheism does not come easy for me, I assure you.

When most people talk or write about God, they are not talking or writing about some ethereal entity only. They assign to that entity specific characteristics, even a personality. Certainly, the primary religions on this planet do that. So, when one asks if one believes in God, it's really a loaded question.

Of course, we humans live in a temporal world where everything has a beginning, a middle, and an end. Thus, we accrue that temporal continuum to everything.

Again I ask what part of human logic can deduce the source and parameters of an infinite number of universes, where they end and where they begin? How can the human mind approximate boundaries or limits of our expanding universe and its infinite number of surrounding universes and so forth....

As long as this eternal question amongst others perplexes us all then I can never rule out something like a God or an alternate state of being.

That doesn't imply however that I believe life on Earth ought to be held secondary or inferior to any supposed afterlife, obviously.

Some of us who don't believe in after life, don't claim that we came from nothing and go back to nothing. There are particles that builds entities, regardless of it being a human being or a brick in a wall. By chance some particles come together, form a human being. But would that happen again? Hardly possible in my opinion. The particles that came together, could end up in many a combination that would make it impossible for the same being to come together again. And even in case that my pattern of DNA be cloned, would it act as I would do, have my memories and take responsibility that my entity once did? Of course not.

It all comes down to the question of do you believe in immaterial soul that some claim is attached to a material body. A nervous system, that's very material, and has the ability to learn and remember, much like artificial intelligence, IMHO, can not be claimed to be an immaterial and an immortal soul. It dissolves to its fundamental particles as any other part of our body after death and it gone.

Look at someone with Alzheimer's disease, it sure looks like the soul has already left the building. Goes to show it is all about our brain that makes us different with any other entity. Once that's gone, we're gone as well. Not to nothingness, but to not being what we once were.

As I said in my first post, I believe it is possible that there's an afterlife or a Creator of some sort. I don't believe this from a logical standpoint, just simply from a "theoretically anything is possible" standpoint. The key to any good argument is providing a degree of falsification. If someone can't provide a scenario or possibility that their argument may be false, then how can they ever prove it to someone who doesn't believe? So I concede that while it defies all logical reasoning that there is a God or an afterlife, I admit that it's possible I'm wrong. And if I am wrong, I'm sure I'll pay for it in the next life because, to me, God seems like a pretty insecure entity.

"I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die." --words of the Lord Jesus Christ, John 11:25-26.


That settles it for me.

And you know what hell is folks. It's Andy Gibb. Singing shadow dancing for eons and eons.

BTW, I didn't post Jesus' words to get into a big theological debate. It's just my conviction and, yes, peace and comfort. Just wanted to make that clear. :-)

yes i do believe in life after death..

Agree with Fathersson: I don't believe, but it would definately be nice

But my mind says it doesn't exist.