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Mob killer- Charles Carneglia #591877
01/23/11 09:15 PM
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Who else is getting completely excited for this book!? Can't wait for the release date. I only hope they release a hardcover as well. Tony DeStefano is a great writer and this topic should make for a great read.

http://www.amazon.com/Mob-Killer-Rampage...1640&sr=1-1


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Re: Mob killer- Charles Carneglia [Re: Mooney] #602126
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I am also excited about this book, hope its another one that i can't put down like The Ice Man, that book i couldnt put down, it went everywhere with me. I've got Mob-Killer Rampage on my wishlist on amazon. damn, my wishlist is getting so long lol.

Re: Mob killer- Charles Carneglia [Re: bluegem82] #602203
05/05/11 09:24 PM
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Most mob biographies aren't worth the paper they're printed on. But the author of this book is Anthony DeStefano, who wrote the outstanding "King of the Godfathers," the Joe Massino bio. I'm definitely ready for this one.


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E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu...
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Re: Mob killer- Charles Carneglia [Re: Turnbull] #605398
06/13/11 10:16 AM
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I picked it up Saturday night and just finished it.

DeStefano is a truly gifted writer. He was able to display that there is plenty of gray area in even the most horrific personality. Carneglia's actions (like keeping souvenirs from his victims, as if he was an unsub on an episode of "Criminal Minds") are some of the most shocking you'll ever read. They're right up there with anything the DeMeo crew ever pulled. But he's able to display some humanity in the man without coming off like a mob groupie (he was good to his mother and little kids, etc.).

In other words, DeStefano writes that Carneglia deserves to live out his days in prison, but he did have a decent side to him, and, to DeStefano's credit, he wasn't afraid to write about it. There's also plenty of stuff about Junior Gotti's crew during the '90s, after Senior went to prison. To my knowledge, it's the first book to really touch on the subject. You know that if Mikey Scars or John Alite ever write a book it's going to be filled with utter bullshit. This one has the ring of truth to it.

In short, it's thoroughly researched and well written. DeStefano should be covering the mob for one of the major New York outlets.

Bonus: At the straight-to-paperback price of $6.99, it won't set you back at all.


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Re: Mob killer- Charles Carneglia [Re: Mooney] #605445
06/14/11 12:27 AM
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DeStefano is a great writer, I wish he wrote something on Sonny Franzese or the Chin or somebody like that... I will def be picking this one up


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Re: Mob killer- Charles Carneglia [Re: pizzaboy] #605795
06/19/11 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Carneglia's actions (like keeping souvenirs from his victims, as if he was an unsub on an episode of "Criminal Minds") are some of the most shocking you'll ever read. They're right up there with anything the DeMeo crew ever pulled


Not quite.
The actions of the DeMeo crew take some beating.
If Carneglia had been from Canarsie instead of East New York he may well have ended up at the Gemini - he would have fitted in pretty well there!!

Re: Mob killer- Charles Carneglia [Re: Mooney] #605831
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$7 huh, yeah that sounds like it might be worth it.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Mob killer- Charles Carneglia [Re: GaryH] #605843
06/20/11 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: GaryH
If Carneglia had been from Canarsie instead of East New York he may well have ended up at the Gemini - he would have fitted in pretty well there!!

Yeah, I forgot. Canarsie is a whole two miles from East New York. I think you ought to stick with British geography, Gary tongue lol.

But you're right, Carneglia would have been right at home in the back room of the Gemini. Sick bastard that he is.


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Re: Mob killer- Charles Carneglia [Re: Mooney] #605881
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I couldn't help but laugh at the idea of Carneglia dropping a finger bone in Ruggeiro's soup.


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Re: Mob killer- Charles Carneglia [Re: IvyLeague] #608266
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Charlie Carneglia may not have been the most famous gangster in New York but he was very strange. The soup bone story is just one of many in the book Mob Killer which show how eccentric and cruel he could be. Alot of mobsters didn't like him because of his drinking and erratic unpredicatable nature. But with his brother being John and his reputation as a killer for the late John Gotti he was protected for longer than he might have been had he not had those allies.

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Originally Posted By: Mob_Scribe
Charlie Carneglia may not have been the most famous gangster in New York but he was very strange. The soup bone story is just one of many in the book Mob Killer which show how eccentric and cruel he could be. Alot of mobsters didn't like him because of his drinking and erratic unpredicatable nature. But with his brother being John and his reputation as a killer for the late John Gotti he was protected for longer than he might have been had he not had those allies.

Perfect description of the guy, especially in describing his longetivity. If it weren't for John, Charlie probably wouldn't have survived the '80s. People often protect their troublesome siblings in all walks of life, not just in the mob.


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Re: Mob killer- Charles Carneglia [Re: Mooney] #609035
07/25/11 05:42 PM
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Any new insights into the Castellano hit? IIRC, Carneglia was one of the shooters wasn't he?

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There was some talk that John was involved in the planning and execution of the Castellano hit. See the book "
Underboss" by Peter Mass, the biography of Sammy Gravano on this.

Re: Mob killer- Charles Carneglia [Re: Mooney] #613499
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Borders is down to its 60-80% sale so I picked this up for $1.
Looking forward to reading it.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Mob killer- Charles Carneglia [Re: Mooney] #613572
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Thats awesome. Even with the exchange, thats only like a buck-oh-five here. I wish Borders in Oz was doing the same thing. I think they got bailed out here or something.


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Re: Mob killer- Charles Carneglia [Re: Mickey_MeatBalls_DeMonica] #626693
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I read that Charles had a friend who had a "problem", so he asked Charlie for some advice - not someone you would usually turn to for advice but a friends a friend - so charlie tells him "we'll plant a piece in the guys car, then call the cops and say some maniac is driving crazy and waving a gun at you out of the window, so the guy gets pulled over and they find the gun - not the end of the world right?, well not until they find a dead guy in the trunk with 2 bullets in his brain - which matches the gun found in the car - end of the "problem", his friend says "Ya know - thanks charlie but no thanks" .........


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