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Kay and Michael #6322
01/26/04 01:45 PM
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Does Kay love Michael? but i think if she loved him so much she wouldn't have remarried to Douglas Michaelson

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She married because even though Michael's divorce settlement with her was generous, he did not provide medical benefits. Since her new husband was a doctor, medical benefits would not present a problem.


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Re: Kay and Michael #6324
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I don't recall anything about medical benefits??? confused Seems to me she'd have enough money even without medical benefits.

At any rate, I do believe she loves Michael and it's not impossible that she also loved her new husband. wink It's hard to explain, and maybe I'm "different" in that way, but even after a divorce there is still a love of sorts with the father of your children. I guess however, it depends on circumstances. Hell, I don't know. ohwell

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Re: Kay and Michael #6325
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Originally posted by Justin:
She married because even though Michael's divorce settlement with her was generous, he did not provide medical benefits. Since her new husband was a doctor, medical benefits would not present a problem.
talk about reading between the lines!


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Re: Kay and Michael #6326
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Don Michael,

I believe that deep down Kay
loved Michael to the end. There is a very thin line between love and hate, and Kay and Michael crossed that line. Evidence of this was in GFIII. Michael found it in his heart to forgive Kay for having the abortion. When he takes Kay on the tour of Sicily, you can see it in her eyes that deep down she was still in love with him. I think in a deleted scene from GFIII, there were some overtones suggesting that they made love while they toured the countryside of Sicily. I think that while deep down Kay always loved Mike, she knew that she could no longer live that life.


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Re: Kay and Michael #6327
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She married because even though Michael's divorce settlement with her was generous, he did not provide medical benefits. Since her new husband was a doctor, medical benefits would not present a problem.
I hope you are not serious? confused


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Re: Kay and Michael #6328
01/27/04 03:39 AM
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I wish they developed kay's character a little more like Henry Hill's wife in Goodfellas, where she wasnt so innocent and was seduced by the power of it all


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Re: Kay and Michael #6329
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I think that she always loved him. I don't think you ever really stop loving someone. Espcially the father of your kids like TIS said.

I agree Norweejun. I would have liked to have seen more of Kay.

Re: Kay and Michael #6330
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Originally posted by Don_Michael_Corleone:
Does Kay love Michael? but i think if she loved him so much she wouldn't have remarried to Douglas Michaelson
That middle sequence in GFIII certainly stirred up some emotions in Kay. But I think once Calo interrupts Michael & Kay's discussion, it's evident that Kay will never go back with Michael. Look at the expression on Kay's face. She still loved Michael, but she could never completely trust him again. Can you blame her??!!

Re: Kay and Michael #6331
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I understand why Michael got in this business and I feel for him he got in the business to protect his father and his family he had no other chose and I think Kay should realise that just like Mamma realise that with Vito and Kay should understand that sometimes people will have to sacrifise their life so that they can protect the family and she should accept Michael for who he is.

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Re: Kay and Michael #6332
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Kay should have realized what kind of man she was marrying, a man who had no choice, but to take control of his father's criminal empire. She loved Michael, but I understand that she didn't want to be with a mafia leader, as her life was threatened as is her childrens. How can she trust her husband as well? At the end of Godfather Part 1, Michael lied straight to her face, a relationship needs trust. Where's the trust?

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I've never understood while Kay married Michael either. He was back in America for over a year or so before he decides to contact her after not even letting her know he'll be out of the country for a long while. At their last encounter before that, he wanted nothing to do with the family business, as far as Kay was concerned. She was even relunctant to get back with him at first, saying it was too late. He told her the Corleone Family would be completely legitimate in 5 years. She should have made him wait 5 years to prove it before commiting her life to him. Since she didn't, she knew darn well what kind of life she may be getting herself into.

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Kay married Michael because she loved him. Being away from a situation like that it is easy for us to question why? But let's face it, love truly is blind (at least most of the time). I think Kay, as many of us, sincerely thought things will change, he will change, and love conquers all. I think that's where where mind was. ohwell

TIS


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"War is over, if you want it" - John Lennon

Re: Kay and Michael #6335
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You're very right, of course, Italian Stallionette. Love can be very blind at times. Soemhow as objective observors we see the situation differently than the ones in love. Funny though. Even though we are meant to identify with Michael since he's the protagonist, I keep hoping Kay won't go for his proposal every time I rewatch THE GODFATHER.

Re: Kay and Michael #6336
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She loved him but couldnt be with him anymore>I think thats pretty bitchy of her, she knew he was a mob guy when she married him. Some women are to needy("Michael, get out of the mob,Mike,pleeeease,for me") an dMike should be glad she's gone grin cool


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Re: Kay and Michael #6337
01/30/04 02:09 AM
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It seems that Kay would love her 2nd husband, just not the same way as Michael.

I know they loved each other, but by the time they got married, it seemed to me that Kay loved who Michael was before he took over the family. She really hadn't changed so it was simple for Michael. But she married the idea of him, believing he would change back.

It was like she was in denial about what and who he had become or maybe she just didn't fully realize at the time. I mean, she had to know deep down who Michael was, but just wouldn't admit it to herself. When Connie accused Michael of killing Carlo and Kay asked if it was true, she already knew it was, but she wanted Michael to say 'No'. She wanted to believe that Michael really just imported olive oil.

By GII she couldn't deny it anymore and just wasn't able to handle the life. When she finally woke up, she couldn't take it and just wanted out. I still think she loves that part of who he was before he took over the family, that part that he shared with her, but she couldn't separate the two.

As to the abortion, it was sort of a way to hurt him, maybe even get back at him for the lies. Plus, I always thought that she had it to push Michael into hating her. She knew he wouldn't just let her leave him (especially if she was pregnant) so she did the one thing she knew he wouldn't easily forgive.

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01/30/04 05:55 AM
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Kay broke Michael's heart which is horrible


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