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Re: The Underboss Situation [Re: cookcounty] #701081
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maybe he was a street boss

Re: The Underboss Situation [Re: cookcounty] #701148
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Originally Posted By: cookcounty
how else would paulie have authority over chis if chris was a captain?


I don't know. Seniority maybe. All I know is that there's nothing to suggest he was underboss. That's just an assumption a lot of people have made.


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Re: The Underboss Situation [Re: BarrettM] #707099
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The Soprano family didn't need an under boss, They were a small family and the capos were always talking directly with Tony not through someone else like an under-boss position should be.

Re: The Underboss Situation [Re: BarrettM] #798484
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sorry to bring up an old post Lol.. but my take is that Paulie was never underboss to begin with. Tony's crew wasn't part of the 5 families in NY. He had a very small family with estimated of 50-60 made men. Tony didn't need an underboss at the time because of how small of a crew they were and also that might have just caused a problem for him. He probably just made all the capos earn for a period of time so he can decide who his underboss would be. and according to Phil, Tony's crew didn't follow all of the "rituals" of La Cosa Nostra.

and also, a street boss is the same thing as an acting boss. usually if the big guys is locked and has the street boss carry out his work.

Re: The Underboss Situation [Re: BarrettM] #798488
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I always saw this scene as evidence that Paulie was underboss for at least the early seasons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Orzf66f4A

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Originally Posted By: NickyEyes1
I always saw this scene as evidence that Paulie was underboss for at least the early seasons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30Orzf66f4A


Paulie could have been a decent boss because he didn't really a family and the mob was really the only thing he had besides "ma"

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Re: The Underboss Situation [Re: MZ] #798517
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Originally Posted By: MZ
sorry to bring up an old post Lol.. but my take is that Paulie was never underboss to begin with. Tony's crew wasn't part of the 5 families in NY. He had a very small family with estimated of 50-60 made men. Tony didn't need an underboss at the time because of how small of a crew they were and also that might have just caused a problem for him. He probably just made all the capos earn for a period of time so he can decide who his underboss would be. and according to Phil, Tony's crew didn't follow all of the "rituals" of La Cosa Nostra.

and also, a street boss is the same thing as an acting boss. usually if the big guys is locked and has the street boss carry out his work.


That's an inherent problem with ensemble casts for TV - there's only so much time to focus on the core. You don't have the time nor the resources to draw out an elaborate organization, even if the DiMeos were a 50-60 made member family.

You see the same thing in police procedurals. A show may focus on seven to eight characters, when in real life, the same organization has several times more staff.

Re: The Underboss Situation [Re: BarrettM] #799300
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I don't think Paulie was ever an actual underboss. There was no official underboss until Bobby; Tony tried grooming Chris to be one but it didn't work out obviously. Paulie was Tony's number 3 guy but his official rank was capo. He held authority over other capos because Tony decided he could do so. Sil was the second in command so in effect he was both consigliere and underboss. It isn't strictly following the typical family hierarchy but Tony was the boss and he could make the pecking order what he wanted.

Re: The Underboss Situation [Re: Its_da_Jackeeettttttt] #799569
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Originally Posted By: Its_da_Jackeeettttttt
Originally Posted By: MZ
sorry to bring up an old post Lol.. but my take is that Paulie was never underboss to begin with. Tony's crew wasn't part of the 5 families in NY. He had a very small family with estimated of 50-60 made men. Tony didn't need an underboss at the time because of how small of a crew they were and also that might have just caused a problem for him. He probably just made all the capos earn for a period of time so he can decide who his underboss would be. and according to Phil, Tony's crew didn't follow all of the "rituals" of La Cosa Nostra.

and also, a street boss is the same thing as an acting boss. usually if the big guys is locked and has the street boss carry out his work.


That's an inherent problem with ensemble casts for TV - there's only so much time to focus on the core. You don't have the time nor the resources to draw out an elaborate organization, even if the DiMeos were a 50-60 made member family.

You see the same thing in police procedurals. A show may focus on seven to eight characters, when in real life, the same organization has several times more staff.


I always thought this was a problem with NYPD Blue. Not a major one obviously.


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Re: The Underboss Situation [Re: BarrettM] #828113
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in one episode the fbi showed a chart of the family structure.

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paulie was underboss,he resented bobby because bobby was bobby, and paulie was paulie

then tony gave paulie the aprile crew because he needed his most trusted watching them

plus all the CONSTRUCTION MONEY with NY

Re: The Underboss Situation [Re: BarrettM] #828773
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Paulie probably was the de facto underboss, given he had no real crew up until the final episode.

Kind of a gripe I had in later seasons -- it seems like the entire DiMeo family became one giant clusterfuck with no organization. This is about the closest I can find to something that makes sense:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b5/Sopchart.jpg

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It does get confusing in season 6. Before that Paulie is capo and Chris and Patsy are under him. By Season 6 Chris is a capo but it isnt stated whether Chris took over Paulie's crew or he was given a crew of his own. Patsy seems to report to paulie still. Chris seems to have a younger crew with guys like benny under him

Re: The Underboss Situation [Re: IvyLeague] #838087
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
Originally Posted By: cookcounty
how else would paulie have authority over chis if chris was a captain?


I don't know. Seniority maybe. All I know is that there's nothing to suggest he was underboss. That's just an assumption a lot of people have made.


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Re: The Underboss Situation [Re: BarrettM] #950187
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They basically had a ruling panel.

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