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Re: Michael's Meeting with Moe
[Re: dontomasso]
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06/04/10 03:18 PM
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And, if not to literally humiliate Moe, to appear with a show of force ("lookit all these guys on my side"). Also, he wanted Fredo there as a courtesy and because he was Moe's "friend" and could be "relied on" to be helpful to Michael, and Tom was there as his lawyer. Johnny was invited by Fredo. The novel says Neri was there, too.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Michael's Meeting with Moe
[Re: Turnbull]
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06/07/10 10:47 AM
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But I wonder how Moe's ownership interest, if it was legally recorded, was transfered to the Corleones. You can bet it was through someone else as a front. In II, Michael testifies at the Senate hearingn that he "owns some stock in the hotels." In Godfather II there are a couple of scenes in which there is an explanation of who owns the casinos in name, and who really owns them. I think it was some Lawyers in Beverly Hills who were the nominal owners. Even though Michael "owned" the casinos, as did Roth, they apparently allowed various groups such as the Lakevill Road Boys to come in and share in the profits just to keep the peace.
"Io sono stanco, sono imbigliato, and I wan't everyone here to know, there ain't gonna be no trouble from me..Don Corleone..Cicc' a port!"
"I stood in the courtroom like a fool."
"I am Constanza: Lord of the idiots."
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Re: Michael's Meeting with Moe
[Re: olivant]
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06/07/10 03:18 PM
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Moe took Fredo in because the Corleones bankrolled his casino or, as the novel states, to help him finish furnishing his hotel. I always figure that there are few secrets in the underworld and that Moe knew why Michael wanted to see him. So he probbaly did talk to Barzini. Exactly, Olivant. Moe had to know that the money the Corleones gave him wasn't simply room and board for Fredo. Sooner or later they'd come to claim their ownership. So, Moe, believing that the Corleones were being run out of town, figured he could tolk to Barzini and not have to worry about Michael taking retribution.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Michael's Meeting with Moe
[Re: Lilo]
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06/07/10 04:45 PM
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If Moe had played it straight with the Corleones and his casino hadn't been "losing" money, would the Corleones have allowed Moe to remain as a partner or was he slated for removal (hostile or not) once the Corleones knew how much $$$ there was in casino gambling. Well, if we retrofit GFII, then I think he would stay, if only to keep Michael's business relationship with Hyman Roth undisturbed. If not, I don't see why they would keep him around. What would they need him for? Michael didn't really seem to like having a lot of extraneous baggage around, especially when they were taking a cut of the profits. I'm sure sooner or later Michael would have gotten rid of him.
"A man in my position cannot afford to be made to look ridiculous!"
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Re: Michael's Meeting with Moe
[Re: Turnbull]
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06/08/10 02:27 PM
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And, having a loose cannon like Moe as a partner would be bad for business. Not to mention dangerous and stupid. Moe would have always been a threat to him, if he let him live (Just like Fredo in Part 2).
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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