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Re: DETROIT LCN DECEASED MEMBERS
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I agree 100%.I could see Jack "Jackie the Kid" Giacalone being the Street Boss.
Tony Z has alot of Street cred and family backing but has made some bad moves but they could happen to anyone.
I believe he had alot to do with the bust by being recorded,etc talking mob business.
Thats still crazy as i spend alot of time in the Motorcity around gambling haunts,etc and i didnt know Tony had dropped that far especially after he did a big bit without snitching where he could have did no time if he would have cooperated but he stood up as usual and took his sentence and did it like a Man..?
I Believe 100% Jack Tocco was the right move as Boss as he has held the reigns for 30+ years and is on his way to a long run at the top like his Uncle Godfather Joe Zerilli.
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Re: DETROIT LCN DECEASED MEMBERS
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Okay, so im not exactly sure what this page is (i think its part of an online game?) but i found it on a recent search on Detroit LCN and am wondering how accurate the chart & relevent photo's are. Ive definitly heard of some of them, but certainly not all of them (at least of the top of my head) Perhaps someone with more Detroit knowledge could point out wheter its an actual, factual chart or rather the screen-names of a bunch of clowns playing a game? http://www.wantonwicked.net/pmwiki/index.php?n=Players.TheDetroitPartnership Since the photo of soldier Dominic Fiore kinda looks like an actor i cant quite place and associate John Costa is accompanied by a picture of Johnny Depp in Donnie Brasco(really, im sure he's not that good looking) i tend to have doubts on the veracity of the whole thing. It makes for a good read though, even better if its right & the pictures are correct (allowing a little bad grammer & spelling)
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Re: DETROIT LCN DECEASED MEMBERS
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Also, ive heard references to a "Partinico Faction" in the Detroit LCN, the "heroin wing" of the Family (they all have one, no?) led by captain Raffaele "Jimmy Q." Quasarano & Sicilian Francesco "Frankie Fingers" Coppola.
I assume it must refer to the Sicilian township, which i guess was the breeding ground of Quaserano, Coppola & their associates spread from from California to Canada? Or at least where they sourced their drugs?
Any information & illumination would be great, since i was pretty certain that Guglielmo Vito Tocco aka Black Bill, and by proxy the entire Tocco family, came from Terrasini.
As a side note, its so interesting yet understandable how many of the US Families retain links to their old townships & traditional Sicilian recruiting grounds, like, the obvious example, the Bonanno's & Castellemare Del Golfo.
Other examples would be Sam the Plumber & his Ribera nostalgia or Angelo Bruno's Villalba.
Alot of those early bosses were inclined to prefer & promote those from the same town back on the "other side", but shrinking recruitment pools make this practice unfeasible these days, and it is common enough for American mobsters to be from all over Italy, Southern (Puglia, Basilicata, Molise, Lazio, etc) as it is for them to be from the North (Piedmont, Lomardy, Liguria, etc)
Whats really fascinating is that the Rizzuto's have managed to maintain this practice, with their Sicilian home town of Cattolica Eraclea serving as their resource pool well into the 20th century. I do, however, digress.
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Re: DETROIT LCN DECEASED MEMBERS
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03/31/10 08:13 AM
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Rafaelle "Jimmy Q" Quassarano has been considered one of the Detroit Partnerships Most valued members for years.
Capo-Rafaelle along with now deceased Peter Vitale had close ties with eastcoast mafia members and acted as the Partnerships contacts with the New York underworld.
He was the familys primary narcotic-capo.?
He married the daughter of Sicilian Mob Lord Vittorio "Don Vito" Vitale.Jimmy Q was the Partnerships Consigliere in the late 70s but was forced to giveup the posistion due to a prison sentence.
The Partnership has had alot to do with the Heroin sell/distrubution in the Motorcity,Canada,Northern Ohio,etc as every other house in certain areas in Detroit especially the East or West sides u can score Heroin as easily as buying a pack of smokes and its been that way all my life.They have helped keep it well stocked.
I know The Zerillis such as 1st Partnership Boss Joseph "Uno" Zerilli came from Terrasini,Sicily so i would assume the Toccos,etc did also but i dont know off the top off my head.
Soldier Caesar Badalamenti became one the partnerships top narcotics Capos and was the familys liasion to the local Sicilian underworld-For all accounts i believe he is still alive and paying his dues,I have found nothing saying hes deceased.?
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Re: DETROIT LCN DECEASED MEMBERS
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The only thing i see incorrect is a pic of Johnny Depp.Everthing else to my knowledge is on the up and up but a couple more of the pics could be B.S.?
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Re: DETROIT LCN DECEASED MEMBERS
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The Partnership has had alot to do with the Heroin sell/distrubution in the Motorcity,Canada,Northern Ohio,etc as every other house in certain areas in Detroit especially the East or West sides u can score Heroin as easily as buying a pack of smokes and its been that way all my life.They have helped keep it well stocked.
Are they really still current big players in heroin in Detroit or Michigan? Not saying they may not still be involved but I think the Mexicans are the dominant player in that business now. http://www.justice.gov/dea/pubs/state_factsheets/michigan.htmlHeroin is widely available throughout the Detroit metropolitan area and the more densely populated areas of Michigan. Large quantities of heroin are imported from South America, Mexico and Africa. Southeast and Southwest Asian heroin is available in the metropolitan Detroit area; however, South American heroin is the most abundant. Major heroin trafficking organizations in Michigan are inner-city and Hispanic—although, Nigerian drug trafficking organizations continue to transport significant amounts of heroin into Michigan. Mexican Cartels NDIC Heroin West Michigan
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Re: DETROIT LCN DECEASED MEMBERS
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04/02/10 02:34 AM
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Ahh, thats it, exactly what i needed, that memory jog.
Gaetano "Don Tano" Badalamenti was a high ranking Sicilian mafiosi, one of three bosses comprising the Sicilian Commission, or Cupola at the time, including Stefano "Prince of Villabate" Stefano & Luciano Liggio. Don Tano in particular was deep, deep into the Heroin Trade, charged & convicted to life in the Pizza Connection trials, dying in a Massachussets prison without ever breaking omerta.
Anyway, Badalamenti had family in Detroit, an had been there himself before. He took to using a nephew, one Ceaser Badalamenti to direct the sales of heroin to mobbed up wholesalers around North America. Infact, if i remember correct, Ceaser's constant forgetting of the passwords & codes for heroin deals greatly helped investigators in wire-taps.
Dont you love that? You mention Ceaser Badalamenti & it just triggers a flood of recognition. The "Heroin Wing", of course.
This & Jimmy Q's own links to Vittorio "Don Vito" Vitale make for some pretty solid mob credentials, eh?
I almost thought that might explain the Partinico reference, but im pretty sure Badalameti was from Cinisi.
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Re: DETROIT LCN DECEASED MEMBERS
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Only a few of those mugshots are "Made" members of the Detroit LCN.They all went down in the same bust though.By reading between the lines sounds like alot of gambling rackets happening around Greektown,Greektown casino,Independent allnight gamblin dens.
Peter "Specs" Tocco
Peter "Little Pete" Tocco-Specs son
Jack "Jackie the Kid" Giacalone
David "Ace" Aceto
Joe Messina
I think the rest of the mugshots on "IvyLeagues" post are "Associates" and probably ticket runners,etc.?
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Re: DETROIT LCN DECEASED MEMBERS
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Detroits allied with the Genovese Family,etc the last i knew.? I believe they cast Detroits Vote on Commission stuff now that there is only so many seats.? Years ago the Genovese family represented Detroit on the Commission, as they did a number of other east coast families. Today there really isn't a Commission of any kind outside New York. And even there the last known Commission meeting between representatives of the five families was about a decade ago.
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Re: DETROIT LCN DECEASED MEMBERS
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01/22/13 12:22 PM
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Who is the leading Detroit LCN watcher here as far as current day?
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Re: DETROIT LCN DECEASED MEMBERS
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Re: DETROIT LCN DECEASED MEMBERS
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01/22/13 02:05 PM
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Scott D. is the resident expert in Tampa, Fla. Scott Burnstein is the resident expert on the Detroit Combination. Emphasis on expert.
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Re: DETROIT LCN DECEASED MEMBERS
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You're right, he hardly ever comes on here though . Sad, but true. He knows people on both sides of the fence in Detroit. I beleive his grandfather was involved in prohibition era liquor rackets.
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Re: DETROIT LCN DECEASED MEMBERS
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Nove Tocco tesified that Jack Tocco was actually wary of exerting the street tax. Nove said that it caused a lot of "headaches" because of the violence involved and it attracted law enforcement. Jack Tocco said that it would might be better if they just "dressed in black" once or twice a year and went out and robbed people.
Jackie Giacalone is said to be the street boss of the family who has direct oversight over all the captains. He also is said to probably the next one in line to become boss.
Here is a post from Scott on another forum regarding the Zerilli matter -
"Had some lunch with some guys today who have their ear close to the street and all the talk around local mob circles right now is how pathetic former underboss/acting boss Anthony "Tony Z" Zerilli is. Since his release from the gamtax conviction in april of 2008, he's been on the outs with the entire syndicate he and his father once led. Jack Tocco blames Tony Z (his first cousin) for the whole family bustout in the 1990's and upon him getting out of the can, he pulled his stripes, demoted and then shelved him. Word is Jack is not taking Tony's calls and has told all of his troops to pay him no respect. Over the last year, Tony Z has been seen around town begging for money from anyone he can find that would maybe help him out. I know a guy who Tony Z approached in late '09 and asked him to float him 20k. The guy declined. when i asked why, he said Tony Z has no juice anymore and he knows that he would never have gotten the money back. I guess nobody will give him the time of day right now and he's living in some dinky apt out in Sterling Heights that his daughter is paying for. the situation demonstrates the lack of loyalty that exists with these guys. They can preach it to the cows come home, but rarely is it ever applied. Whats really scary, is that Tony Z should have been don of the whole syndicate. He had the job and then coughed it up with his bust in Vegas in the late-1960's. Joe Z made the right move in demoting him back then and making his nephew Jack Tocco his eventual replacement. I couldnt imagine the state of the family had Tony Z been calling all the shots that last 35 years." It is interesting to look back at this thread, and the Tony Z situation. It makes one wonder if he would be talking about where Hoffa is, if he had not been shelved so severely (some income and respect). BTW - when Tony Z went to jail in the late 60's, he went away with Tony Giordano (St Louis Godfather) and 2 other guys from Detroit, I believe. It later came out that the FBI got the tip about their hidden ownership in the Vegas casinos from Johnny Roselli.
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Re: DETROIT LCN DECEASED MEMBERS
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Okay, wow I didn't know Detroit was on the same level as DeCavalcante, Chicago and Boston as far as still being 2nd tier LCN families. That interests me. Is "Motor City Mafia" the definitive book on this family or are there better titles out there? If so, what are they?
Maybe this should be posted in books section but this is still semi relevant to the topic above and I didn't find much in the search bar. Thank you.
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