He couldn't get his lucky coat off of the hook?!! He deserved to be shot.

How about...."COMMAND ME!" Vincent says it and so does Calo. It sounds too forced, pretentious or phony. It should be followed by, "Bark like a dog!"

I guess you're refering to the movie 'Bugsy'. That was one of the most ludicrous scenes btw.

"Pee on me, Don Corleone. Please."

Doesnt Michael say "I command this family" in the hospital scene?

Maybe she wanted to have Michael get a Rastafarian do.

So I finally watched Godfather, part III last night for the first time. Ever. (I'm really late to this party.)

I was really confused in places about who was doing what and why, but I'm glad I'm not alone in thinking that this film wasn't nearly as well done as the first two. The dialogue seemed weak to me, and too often it seemed as if the script was really rehashing events from the first two movies because they worked well then.

Once I've watched it again - and I'll probably rewatch I and II first - maybe I can have a few more positive comments about part III.

One question, though - was Michael diabetic in parts I and II? If so, I totally missed that.

No evidence of it.

Michael diabetic probably came on as he got older as there is nothing in GF 1 and 2 showing he had diabetics or its more sloppy writing..

But he was already taking pills in part II. You see this when he is sitting in the train to Miami.

True, but we don't know what the pills were for. I always assumed they were Valium, or something like it. In any case, developing diabetes later in life isn't uncommon, so I don't think there's any inconsistency here.

Speaking of attacks on GFIII, there was a pretty good line on Sportscenter this morning. They were showing highlights of the record-long match at Wimbledon (continuing this morning for day 3, 59-59 in the 5th set). After one highlight, the anchor tried to put the length into perspective by saying, "At this point in the match, you could have watched The Godfather and Godfather II. As for Godfather III...well, who wants to watch that, anyway."

What do you guys think was the best line in the film?

I love "You will not give, I'll take!" and use it on friends and family when ever they offer me something, delivered exactly how Joe Mantegna says it in the film.

Michael showed signs of oncoming diabetes in I. Notice that he drank an excssive amount of water, which is a symptom/

Excessive?

I seem to remember an earlier discussion of this topic.
FFC could not have envisioned III while he was scripting and filming III--or at least not in that much detail. He always said that III was Paramount's idea--they kept leaning on him to do III as a prestige effort for the studio.

I speculated that the pill he took on the train was Miltown, the universal tranquilizer of the late Fifties.

It could have been that TB or something for residual pain in his jaw.

I agree with Woltz and Turnbull that it probably was some tranquilizer, which seems the most obvious.

The man wouldn't drink because he was afraid it would dull his senses. Do you really think he would take something like Miltown or Valium? I'm guessing it was nothing more than aspirin.

Is this in addition to the 'heavy smoking'???

I haven't viewed GFII in a while, will have to check out the next time for how many times we see Michael Corleone with a glass of water in front of him. Which of course, would indicate 'excessive' drinking of same.

The diabetes in GFIII was most likely written in as another way of having the older Michael come off as more weak and vulnerable, nearer the end of his effective reign as 'Don'.

And I agree that it was no more than aspirin he was downing on that train in GFII.

He's always drinking water. Before his cooking lesson with Clemenza. On the train. With Fredo while Fredo has a banana daquari. At the meeting with Batista.

DT, I've noticed that it's easier to swallow a pill if you try to swallow it with water. I've alo noticed that some people drink water (or club soda) when other people they are with drink alcoholic beverages. And on occasion, I've even walked into the kitchen, filled a glass with water, and drank it.

Yeah, but Michael was a compulsive water drinker. Much of his water drinking was probably cut by FFC.

Just like Manolo's scenes.

Well, you've got a point there...any character seen excessively drinking water (or club soda) at least FOUR times, in two movies covering a 13 year timespan has GOT to be interpreted as 'pre-diabetic'!!

He does ask Al for cold water upon returning from Cuba...I'm not sure if he drinks any, just soothes his eyes. But still, he ASKS for the water...does that count? I think it should.

What about the deleted scenes...we've GOT to see if Michael's drinking water (or club soda) in any of the deleted scenes because just anything we can find will further prove the theory!!!

(By the way, weren't there pitchers/glasses of water in front of most of the attendees at the Batista meeting...as there would be a almost any similar gathering of businessmen in a boardroom? -- Another thing I'll have to check out during next GFII viewing.)

Clearly thy were ALL pre-diabetics.

I wonder if the don's had good health insurance?