Kudos to Ivy for his restraint .

Well, I do not believe there is an old guy with a beard who lives in the sky, and even though I consider myself a Christian, and even though I go to Church almost every Sunday, I do not believe Jesus was God, or his Son, and I do not believe he rose from the dead. I do believe in His teachings, however, and I believe there is some kind of God beyond my comprehension.

I have no problem saying "I don't know," because after all Original Sin in the bible is eating from the "tree of knowledge." To me that means people who say they "know" are the true sinners.

Ok thanks WG, Have a few questions about the concept, seems it's considerably different from the Catholic school teachings of the 80's, And sorry WG and everybody for being such a miserable

bastard lately and pushing the envelope lately in regards to

theism. My buddy got killed at work a couple years ago and died

right next to my truck. Everything's spiraled out of control ever

since, not sure if any of you were aware of that, can't recall if I ever told anyone on here about it or not. I know I'm the one that's created this hell I've been living, so nobody to blame but myself.

In the last few years, everybody else has moved on with their

Lives, yet I dwell on it daily. His wife's remarried, etc. but I

can barely function. Feel like my guts are rotting from the inside

out too from other issues, but I'm afraid to go get checked out.



To ice the cake the

Water pump went on my truck today while I was picking up my

daughter. Tearing into a GM Ls 6.0 is not what I had planned for

The weekend, but that choice is made for me now.

Anyways, sorry again for being a dickhead. It's obviously worn

thin. Next time I start "raging against the machine" somebody tell

me to shut the fuck up before it gets out of hand again.

I'm sorry but if there is a single prerequisite for considering one's self a Christian, it's believing Christ was who He said He was - the Son of God and Savior of the world. If you don't believe that, that's your business, but you can't call yourself a Christian. In fact, you may as well just join up with the crowd that says Christ was a good moral teacher but nothing else. Never mind that argument has no basis since it would make Him a liar and His claims false. One only has two choices - He was either who He said He was or He was a mad man. There's no in between.




I'm sorry to hear about your loss, jimmerz. That's horrible. Speaking for myself, it's times like that that I am thankful for my belief in the afterlife. You will see your friend again.

Thanks WG, that means a lot and I certainly appreciate it.

I am a Christian and I do believe in God and I do believe Jesus is the son of god. there have been times where my beliefs have been questioned by anger/the devil/demons... I also believe that religious beliefs are personal. however I am also educated and do believe in the theory of evolution.. something that was pure Ludacris to some hardcore Christians 20 years ago. But science is something that has been proven and those who refuse to believe facts are lost. I also do believe that atheists are lost souls, hardcore muslims and religious fundamentalists are sick and uneducated people. I really cannot comment on Buddhism and eastern philosophies simply because I am not educated enough to their beliefs to do so. But one thing I have found is balance among the two beliefs... maybe I am the crazy one to think that Buddhists are TOO free spirited and Muslims are TOO controlled and set into routine. who knows

i think you are free to believe whatever you'd like as long as it doesnt impose on others or cause harm.

the ones that baffle me are the evangelicals that think the world started 2,000 years ago and that dinosaurs walked the earth with men. very strange, but to each his own.

Sorry for all your pain, amigo.

I agree completely some crazy guy who worked at the CertainTeed plant was convinced this was the case... we all kind of just laughed at him... the years and science don't add up... dinosaurs and humans???

cognitive dissonance