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Aerosmith to FIRE Steven Tyler? #559649
11/06/09 11:00 PM
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Take a grain of salt.

Walk this Way

Out the Door!


http://www.live4ever.uk.com/2009/11/aerosmith-to-dump-steven-tyler/

Re: Aerosmith to FIRE Steven Tyler? [Re: ronnierocketAGO] #559651
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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
Take a grain of salt.

Walk this Way

Out the Door!


http://www.live4ever.uk.com/2009/11/aerosmith-to-dump-steven-tyler/


wait a minute...was it steven tyler that created the band aerosmith?

Re: Aerosmith to FIRE Steven Tyler? [Re: BAM_233] #559656
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I wonder who has rights to the name?


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Aerosmith to FIRE Steven Tyler? [Re: Lilo] #559658
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Maybe it is just time for them to transition.
Brad Hamilton's take


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Aerosmith to FIRE Steven Tyler? [Re: Lilo] #559659
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Would anyone, including Aerosmith fans, pay any attention to the band without Steven Tyler?

Re: Aerosmith to FIRE Steven Tyler? [Re: Just Lou] #559662
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No way!! Whenever the lead singer dies, leaves or is "dumped" the remainder of the band can forget it. They may be fed up with Tyler, but as far as I'm concerned, if they dump him, Aerosmith is history. ohwell Tyler could leave them and has more of a chance to make it solo than the band, but not vice versa.


What would the Stones be without Mick? Look at the Doors without Jim. Doesn't work!!!



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Re: Aerosmith to FIRE Steven Tyler? [Re: The Italian Stallionette] #559663
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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
No way!! Whenever the lead singer dies, leaves or is "dumped" the remainder of the band can forget it. They may be fed up with Tyler, but as far as I'm concerned, if they dump him, Aerosmith is history. ohwell Tyler could leave them and has more of a chance to make it solo than the band, but not vice versa.


What would the Stones be without Mick? Look at the Doors without Jim. Doesn't work!!!



TIS


yea really i mean look at queen after mercury died. then again did AC DC lose there lead man, and still doing great?

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Originally Posted By: BAM_233


yea really i mean look at queen after mercury died. then again did AC DC lose there lead man, and still doing great?


AC/DC only had 1 album crack the top 100 with Bon Scott as lead vocalist. Their first album with Bruce Johnson "Black in Black" is the 2nd all-time best selling album to Michael Jackson's "Thriller".

Edit: That's top 100 in the United States.

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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Originally Posted By: BAM_233


yea really i mean look at queen after mercury died. then again did AC DC lose there lead man, and still doing great?


AC/DC only had 1 album crack the top 100 with Bon Scott as lead vocalist. Their first album with Bruce Johnson "Black in Black" is the 2nd all-time best selling album to Michael Jackson's "Thriller".


o...yea im not a fan of AC DC, so yea lol

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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Originally Posted By: BAM_233


yea really i mean look at queen after mercury died. then again did AC DC lose there lead man, and still doing great?


AC/DC only had 1 album crack the top 100 with Bon Scott as lead vocalist. Their first album with Bruce Johnson "Black in Black" is the 2nd all-time best selling album to Michael Jackson's "Thriller".

Edit: That's top 100 in the United States.


Just to be a smartass his name is Brian Johnson and the album is "Back in Black"


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The Temptations did okay when they replaced David Ruffin with Dennis Edwards.
Van Halen seemed to do better commercially when they exchanged David Lee Roth for Hagar.
Sabbath seemed to do okay with either Ozzy or Dio.

But all those bands were still at somewhat of a creative point when they changed singers. It was a different time. And Tyler + Perry is the Aerosmith image. But they've been together so long it's probably past time they went their separate ways.


"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
Re: Aerosmith to FIRE Steven Tyler? [Re: The Iceman] #559672
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Originally Posted By: The Iceman
Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Originally Posted By: BAM_233


yea really i mean look at queen after mercury died. then again did AC DC lose there lead man, and still doing great?


AC/DC only had 1 album crack the top 100 with Bon Scott as lead vocalist. Their first album with Bruce Johnson "Black in Black" is the 2nd all-time best selling album to Michael Jackson's "Thriller".

Edit: That's top 100 in the United States.


Just to be a smartass his name is Brian Johnson and the album is "Back in Black"


"Black in Black"? Sounds like a bad ebony porno film. lol

Re: Aerosmith to FIRE Steven Tyler? [Re: Just Lou] #559682
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It's official: Tyler will not be fired.

Because he quit!

Joe Perry: Steven Tyler has quit Aerosmith

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009...uit-aerosmith/

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A shame,especially for my wife who loves them. We have seen them live 3 times.

However considering they are all in their 60's it is possibly not a bad thing. Now they can concentrate on tea dances and games of bingo tongue


I would rather die on my feet than live on my knees!
Re: Aerosmith to FIRE Steven Tyler? [Re: Just Lou] #559752
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Originally Posted By: Just Lou
Would anyone, including Aerosmith fans, pay any attention to the band without Steven Tyler?


Nope.

They had a couple of good runs. I think he is irreplaceable, like Mick Jagger.

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I do wonder what if the Rolling Stones had permanently split in the late 80s as they unofficially were during that whole Jagger/Richards feud.

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In the same theme, here in my area of late, they've been advertising entertainment at a local casino (where a lot of old groups/singers end up it seems). wink Playing now is John Fogerty of CCR. Now, being the former lead singer I believe people will go to see him because his voice is immediately recognizable. If just CCR with no Fogerty was playing, it just would NOT be the same. The lead singer always stand a much better chance of going solo than his band mates (with maybe few exceptions that I can't even think of right now.) Wait, the Beatles of course, with three of them anyway, single recording artists in their own right.

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And Pink Floyd did rather well after Roger Waters, even if their two post-breakup albums were mediore. Or even earlier when Waters took over the mantle from Syd Barrett when he went cuckoo.

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"When the snows fall and the white winds blow, the lone wolf dies but the pack survives."
Winter is Coming

Now this is the Law of the Jungle—as old and as true as the sky; And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it must die.
As the creeper that girdles the tree-trunk, the Law runneth forward and back; For the strength of the Pack is the Wolf, and the strength of the Wolf is the Pack.
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Is he in or out? Sounds like Brett Favre might be heading up the band.

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Originally Posted By: The Italian Stallionette
No way!! Whenever the lead singer dies, leaves or is "dumped" the remainder of the band can forget it. They may be fed up with Tyler, but as far as I'm concerned, if they dump him, Aerosmith is history. ohwell Tyler could leave them and has more of a chance to make it solo than the band, but not vice versa.


What would the Stones be without Mick? Look at the Doors without Jim. Doesn't work!!!



TIS



I totally agree with you!
I hope they resolve their issues.. frown


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Can't they just go out to an alley and step on a cat's tail to recreate the effect of Tyler's vocals? confused

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Aerosmith Members Say Steven Tyler 'Needs Help'

By Joey Bartolomeo

Thursday November 19, 2009 05:30 AM EST

Aerosmith Members Say Steven Tyler 'Needs Help'

As Steven Tyler's bandmates ponder the future now that he has decided to take a two-year break from Aerosmith, they are also expressing concerns about the singer's well-being.

"I think that he needs help and that attention needs to be put to his health," drummer Joey Kramer tells PEOPLE.

And Kramer says he isn't referring to the broken shoulder Tyler sustained when he fell off the stage during a concert in August.

Asked if he thinks there is something else going on with Tyler, he says, "I do."

Recent reports in the Boston Herald and online suggest Tyler, who battled drug addiction in the '70s and '80s and checked into a rehab center last year to detox from painkillers, may be partying again.

Though Kramer would not say whether he has seen Tyler use drugs recently, he says he is concerned because the singer has "isolated himself."

Says Kramer, "He's got some bad influences in his life right now and he's making poor choices."

Aerosmith guitarist Brad Whitford tells PEOPLE, "His behavior is spinning out of control."

Tyler's bandmates say they haven't spoken to him in weeks, but last Tuesday, he unexpectedly showed up at a concert given by Joe Perry. Tyler performed one song with Perry, then took off without saying goodbye.

"I don't know where he is and what he's doing," says Whitford, who admits he, too, is "concerned about [Tyler's] well-being and his health."

Cancellations Galore
Though the band had been touring earlier this year, Whitford says that Tyler's behavior has been "erratic" and "unpredictable." He notes, "It wasn't an overnight change. It's been progressively getting out of hand."

The result? "Loads of cancellations, canceled tours, and canceled dates," says Whitford.

For his part, the singer has said he wants to focus on his own brand and possibly record a solo album; he is also working on a memoir. In an August interview with Rolling Stone, he maintained he was not on drugs and said he was "as sober as can be" when he fell off the stage.

On Monday night, he was spotted at The Pump Energy Food in New York City, where he ordered a fresh-squeezed juice made of carrots, beets and ginger. The following night, he attended a John Mayer concert with girlfriend Erin Brady. "Steven was having fun, getting into John's music, and loving the attention from his fans," says a source.

A rep for Tyler says, "He's concentrating on his book right now while his shoulder heals."

Meanwhile, Kramer, Whitford and bandmates Joe Perry and Tom Hamilton are considering looking for a new lead singer.

"It's hard for me to imagine getting on stage without Steven," says Kramer, who hopes that Tyler will rejoin them in the future. "He needs to take care of his health first and get help in order for there to be a future for an Aerosmith that includes him."

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Originally Posted By: ronnierocketAGO
And Pink Floyd did rather well after Roger Waters, even if their two post-breakup albums were mediore. Or even earlier when Waters took over the mantle from Syd Barrett when he went cuckoo.

whilst not their best work, i always thought 'a momentary lapse of reason' and 'the division bell' were great albums and far better than the (basically) roger waters only 'the final cut'

pink floyd always effectively had two lead singers though in waters and gilmour, much like the beatles i guess (who you could argue had three or four).

ian curtis of 'joy division' committed suicide and the rest of the band reformed and became 'new order' and were far more successful (commercially, if not historically) than joy division.

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